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August 14, 2013 at
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Knoxville Raceway General Manager Brian Stickel comments on group qualifying format used for "Capitani Classic" and how that system might be used in the future for other events. Also comments about current Nationals qualifying format and how some adjustments are possible moving forward. More of this interview, which is more about the Knoxville Nationals, Knoxville Raceway and it's impact on Marion County and the Knoxville Community, can be seen this weekend on RacinBoys TV on Time Warner Cable's Metro Sports in Kansas City. Air times are 5:00 p.m. CT Saturday, and 10:00 a.m. Sunday.
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Just wondering was this done before Sat. night or after??
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August 14, 2013 at
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Before Saturday night's A Main, sometime around 5pm.
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August 14, 2013 at
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Thanks !!
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August 14, 2013 at
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Will you guys be posting this on the innernets? For those of us that don't live in the KC area?
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August 14, 2013 at
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Sometime this weekend. Our aggrement with Metro Sports allows them to have first airing.
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August 14, 2013 at
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I'm beginning to like the idea of group qualifying more and more. It speeds up qualifying, many fans least favorite part of the show, and seems to level the field a bit more. What are the biggest drawbacks and what do the drivers think about using it, especially at a big show like the Nationals?
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August 14, 2013 at
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Posted By: longdong on August 14 2013 at 09:42:12 PM
I'm beginning to like the idea of group qualifying more and more. It speeds up qualifying, many fans least favorite part of the show, and seems to level the field a bit more. What are the biggest drawbacks and what do the drivers think about using it, especially at a big show like the Nationals?
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You have never seen group qualifing with a slow car in the group?
How does that level the field ?
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August 16, 2013 at
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Posted By: vanh on August 14 2013 at 10:30:42 PM
You have never seen group qualifing with a slow car in the group?
How does that level the field ?
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Exactly, let's degrade the tradition even more and make it even more confusing for the new or casual fan!
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August 16, 2013 at
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I think Stickle is doing some good things there but seriously, would u please quit messing with tradition! ! If anything go back to what made this event great. Fully invert heats 30 lap A main and everything is done by points. No second or third chances. Line them up and race, let the cream rise to the top. Time trials is so important to nationals. Plus people r on vacation they don't care if they get home a half hour earlier. Please please please quit screwing with the best race on the planet, stop trying to water it down.
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August 16, 2013 at
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I think it would be every bit - or more, exciting if the Knoxville track would go back to the qualifying method used in the 60's.
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August 16, 2013 at
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Posted By: ThePurple73 on August 16 2013 at 04:14:10 PM
I think it would be every bit - or more, exciting if the Knoxville track would go back to the qualifying method used in the 60's.
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You would need to exp;ain that one to how that would be better
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August 17, 2013 at
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Change the inverts to 6 cars, only lock in 40 cars and run 2 C-Mains, And while we're at at I think they should start the Indy 500 in rows of 2 rather than 3, And no more Milk for the Victor. I think maybe Gatorade or a RedBull should be the new traditional Victory drink. Things become "Great" for a reason, Then one day they aren't so "Great". And there to is a reason for that... Make it how it was and leave it alone.
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August 17, 2013 at
06:20:24 AM by BIGFISH
And with qualifying and believe it or not, more than a few aren't real familiar with every car and driver and it give them a opportunity to for lack of a better term I can think of right now, get to know them and their sponcers... Plus it sounds great!
Half the lies they tell about me aren't true.
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August 17, 2013 at
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Posted By: BIGFISH on August 17 2013 at 06:15:59 AM
And with qualifying and believe it or not, more than a few aren't real familiar with every car and driver and it give them a opportunity to for lack of a better term I can think of right now, get to know them and their sponcers... Plus it sounds great!
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Bigfish...said a mouth full of good stuff.
The identification and personalization of the driver is what makes it exciting to fans, especially new fans. Making racers colorful is what builds fan bases and legends. Is the diver a racing minister, a horse shoer, a part time computer guru, school teacher? If they are full time racers, why, what have they done? Let people know.
As far as Nationals qualifying, this would be my version which is somewhat a throw back to the old days....and it used to be exciting..much like Indy qualifying used to be. But different still.
I would have the first night qualifying mean something...fast time and back to 10th quick time would line up the inside row of the Saturday A feature. After qualifying have an open program that PAID A LOT (Heats, B, A). In all racing programs NO INVERSIONS in heats or features. Fast to the front. Saturday A Feature qualifiers wouldn't have to race if they didnt want to, but probably would due to high pay out. The first night feature winner would get the 11th inside position starting spot in the Saturday A main. If feature winner is already in the top 10 qaulifiers then the 2nd place car (or car not in the top 10) gets the position. All others get points.
The second night qualifying would line up the outside rows of the Saturday A main. If you qualified the first night for the A main, you could give up your position (say you qualified 8th) and try to better that the second night, but you lose the original spot.
Quailifying has set the Saturday A main for the most part.
Again have a high paying racing program with the winner going to the 11th row outside. Same rules as the night before.
Keep points for all other participants.
Run a C and B feature on Saturday. Top 2 from B tag the A.
Points from previous nights and quailfying line up C and B.
The fast time winner would be able to choose before the Saturday A main, during ceremony, whether they will start on the inside or outside, a perk of quick time.
A lot of focus would be on qualifying, you have to have your act together or...you are out of luck. AS a team and driver you have to focus to your best abililty with the countries sprint car fans watching what you can do qualifying. If you do well you win big. No 2nd, 3rd, 4th chance. That could be as exciting as inversions, multiple races, last last last chance races.
When you come to the Nationals you have to be fast, you have to be good, the Nationals would be for the best.
If you don't fit that mold...you go home...come back next year. It would not be a race for every racer. Not everyone would get a ribbon, but if you were fast and obtained a good starting spot you could make a good deal of money.
You could do the Saturday A main line up in accurately in your head.
Just an idea.
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Posted By: ThePurple73 on August 17 2013 at 09:54:58 AM
Bigfish...said a mouth full of good stuff.
The identification and personalization of the driver is what makes it exciting to fans, especially new fans. Making racers colorful is what builds fan bases and legends. Is the diver a racing minister, a horse shoer, a part time computer guru, school teacher? If they are full time racers, why, what have they done? Let people know.
As far as Nationals qualifying, this would be my version which is somewhat a throw back to the old days....and it used to be exciting..much like Indy qualifying used to be. But different still.
I would have the first night qualifying mean something...fast time and back to 10th quick time would line up the inside row of the Saturday A feature. After qualifying have an open program that PAID A LOT (Heats, B, A). In all racing programs NO INVERSIONS in heats or features. Fast to the front. Saturday A Feature qualifiers wouldn't have to race if they didnt want to, but probably would due to high pay out. The first night feature winner would get the 11th inside position starting spot in the Saturday A main. If feature winner is already in the top 10 qaulifiers then the 2nd place car (or car not in the top 10) gets the position. All others get points.
The second night qualifying would line up the outside rows of the Saturday A main. If you qualified the first night for the A main, you could give up your position (say you qualified 8th) and try to better that the second night, but you lose the original spot.
Quailifying has set the Saturday A main for the most part.
Again have a high paying racing program with the winner going to the 11th row outside. Same rules as the night before.
Keep points for all other participants.
Run a C and B feature on Saturday. Top 2 from B tag the A.
Points from previous nights and quailfying line up C and B.
The fast time winner would be able to choose before the Saturday A main, during ceremony, whether they will start on the inside or outside, a perk of quick time.
A lot of focus would be on qualifying, you have to have your act together or...you are out of luck. AS a team and driver you have to focus to your best abililty with the countries sprint car fans watching what you can do qualifying. If you do well you win big. No 2nd, 3rd, 4th chance. That could be as exciting as inversions, multiple races, last last last chance races.
When you come to the Nationals you have to be fast, you have to be good, the Nationals would be for the best.
If you don't fit that mold...you go home...come back next year. It would not be a race for every racer. Not everyone would get a ribbon, but if you were fast and obtained a good starting spot you could make a good deal of money.
You could do the Saturday A main line up in accurately in your head.
Just an idea.
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Iine up main on time only do not have to race thier way in and what is left line up no inverts
They will stand in line to see that
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have the late models 2 times a year have a big 10.000 to win modified show i f they would the lm show off the last weekend on sept crowd would double
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Posted By: vanh on August 14 2013 at 10:30:42 PM
You have never seen group qualifing with a slow car in the group?
How does that level the field ?
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Knoxville is big enough! How is your night being defined by a pill draw fair??
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Based on the proposal above, here is your A main lineup for Saturday night excluding B main transfers.
On the inside McMahon, Jeffrey, Henderson, Stewart, Heskin, Sides, Sweet, Schatz, Pittman, Larson, Gravel and on the outside Saldana, Maeschen, S Kinser, Rose, Lasoski, Darrah, Abreu, Swindell, Brown, Tatnell and Madsen.
Not a bad lineup. However the lineup of the A main coming down to a pill draw (early or late in the qualifying session) doesn't thrill me much. Qualifying is already important enough but this proposal overemphasizes it IMHO.
No inverts? Some of the best racing in the week are the heat races on Wednesday or Thursday. No invert and all that goes away.
I want to see some racing, not just driving fast!
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Everyone has their opinion on what to do with the Nationals. Obviously it needs to be fixed. The Qualifying, how many gets locked in which nights, the Friday show & 50 laps? Here is mine:
Three car group qualifying will work, but if one car is slower it could hurt other lap times.
If your going to lock Friday cars, lock in two cars not four. 16 cars the first two nights needs to be changed to 18
Why not let everyone who is not locked in to the top 18...requalify on Friday, but freeze the points they have already made on Wed or Thurs, then if you didn't finish in the top 2, add the Friday points to them to set the B on back in Saturdays show.
The 25th provisional works for me, but if your going to do that... take the top 5 from Saturday's B-main to make it 26 cars in the A.
As for 50 laps, I liked the days of a 30 lap shootout with no stop halfway. I'd go with 35 laps and make them run the big fuel cell. The stop kills the show.
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