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Just a warning we have some NEW coppers in town that have something to prove along with Caption Unibrow. I wish Knoxville could be more like the Royal!! Can you imagine how much money Knoxville could bring in if that were to ever happen!!

God Speed and Good Racin!

yet when RAGBRAI was in town last week you could do whatever you wanted (two arrests (one for smoking dope on the square and the other for public intox (passed out on the street on the square)).

I however do not agree with it being more like the Royal with basically no rules.  I bring my 10-year old son with me, having a free for all will run off the families and FUTURE fans for decades to come. 

Look for the Royal, World 100 and Dream 100 @ Eldora to start seeing declines in attendance in the not too distant future (they are running off the fans with kids, which means they won't bring their kids, and on and on, eventually all you have is old guys sitting around still trying to party like they are 20).

vande I really have not ever seen your point of view, which doesnt mean its wrong but you can predict anything you want about Eldora its a blast from the racing to the people who are there.

The city of Knoxville wanted RAGBRAI to come to Knoxville therefore the cops looked the other way on ALOT of things. (I also have been told that prominent people in Knoxville told them to take it easy)

There is a difference when Knoxville wants events in this town. 

I think the bigger thing is the STATE COPS allow what happens on RAGBRAI, the local police departments don't get much say when they have State Troopers telling them they just told someone it was no big deal (the town of Beacon was told to shut down a beer tent on Thursday of RAGBRAI by local police and didn't.  Police came back and a State Trooper was standing there and told the local police that unless things started to get out of hand, they didn't have to shut down).  RAGBRAI carries the insurance, therefore the cities and counties get out of the liability (and obviously the state must think it brings in enough tax revenue to warrant allowing things to happen that you'd get arrested for the other 51 weeks of the year).

A majority of the arrests made over the 10 days of Nationals are made by State Troopers or police brought in from other agencys, not the local sherriffs or local police and over HALF of those that get arrested are LOCALS, not people that are here on vacation.

It still comes down to peope being responsible for their own actions IMO,  If you're not smart enough to realize you are on a CITY STREET and trying to drink beer and drive your golf cart, you're a moron plain and simple.  Just because there is a large event going on at the RACEWAY doesn't make the laws of hte city, county and state disappear.  Once you walk off the Marion County Fairgrounds, you're no longer on private property where you are allowed to drink (same as at your house).  You walk past the sidewalk at your house, and you are on the city right of way and can be ticketed for Public Intox (even though you're still in your yard).

At Eldora, except crossing the highway, you're on PRIVATE PROPERTY the entire time.  That is just never going to be the case in Knoxville.

As far as our Police Chief, IN MY OPINION, Dan Losada should have been replaced YEARS ago, we haven't had a good local Police department since way before him however.  If you think this is just a Knoxville issue though, you're nuts.  Pella hired a Police Chief that is not locally grown and guess what, arrests, tickets, DUI's and the like are all up in Pella over years past (maybe it's because they quit looking the other way becuase the new Chief didn't grow up here and doesn't realize you can't arrest or ticket certain people).

I hope they bust the shit out of the idiots that drive 50 plus mph past track and Casey's. few years back some real idiot tried it on a n motor bike got boxed in at a red light at hall of fame after nearly hitting pedistrean. Local cop was by Casey's got to the bike and was gonna let him go until people ran over and started bitching to cop . I would have impounded his stupid little bike nearly hit people . 

As a 24 year old who lives in Knoxville I'll agree. Nationals really gives the non race fans who enjoy partying an even better

excuse to get rowdy. I can't even count how many fights have been broken up behind turn 3 or at Dingus that were local

kids only and NOT race fans. So basically, the deadbeats who get in trouble year round, usually find a way to get in trouble

during nationals.

The State Troopers are the ones you have to watch out for. Those guys always have something stuck up their ass and

typically, its still a wedgie from being made fun of in high school

-Austin Rankin

I have only been to the Nationals once (2001). Our first day at the track we are walking with our coolers and I noticed we were the only people with coolers. We asked a couple of people and found out we could not bring beer into the track. No problem, we take our coolers to the car and have a great time anyway! Another night we are leaving the track and I have a beer. At the exit a sheriff looks at me and says," I wouldn't take that out of here", so I didn't. Again no big deal, the sheriff was keeping me from getting a ticket, which I appreciated. I think what vande is saying is that a little common sense goes a long way!

Are there drunks at the Kings Royal, sure. Are there drunks at the Nationals, sure. Are there drunks at Manzanita, sure. Are there drunks at NASCAR races, sure. To hear people talk on here, the entire Eldora crowd is out of control. I've been going there since '66 and have no problem with the crowd for the most part. Of coarse there will be the random idiot every once in awhile, but the crowd usually takes care of that themselves!

Cops are cordially invited to Section H. We have somehow developed magnetic properties that attract toothless inbreds who puke and fight. Knoxville management promised a texting service to help with the growing vagrant population. Anyone know if its real?

Who'd they promise that to?

Never say any fb posts, or anything else saying they would.

I for one wish they would add one, but I know it costs $$$.  The upgrade they did to the catchfence is probably $$$ better spent IMO

Knoxville Police: 641-828-0554 Knoxville Raceway: 641-842-5431 And then there is 911 if things get real bad.  I don't know what anyone else might need.  Index that into your phone and it should handle about any incident.   If nothing else, just grab one of the people working security.  Have always found them to be most helpful and Merrill does a great job.  Don't hesitate to contact one of them.  If you can't get any action take it to the next step.  

My wife told me if I went to one more Sprint Car race 
she would leave me.................I'm sure gonna miss 
that ol' gal. 

Vande: "promised" was bonehead choice of words on my part. "Seriously looking into" would have been better choice. I had two conversations before renewing this year. One was old manager who is gone now and the 2nd was at renewal time in November. Both were completely aware of the issues in H and both talked about stepped up security and the text service that somebody was looking at. Maybe like you said, it's too expensive for the one week of the year where you need it because of the world class crowd size.  Love Knoxville. Can't wait to get on the plane 

Problem with a text service is getting more cell coverage. I know there's a tower right above us in section B but with everybody seemingly using their mobile devices, its not enough to handle the data load.

Is this heaven?  
No, it's Iowa....Knoxville, Iowa.