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May 28, 2013 at
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Posted By: Jamie Klootwyk on May 27 2013 at 09:51:21 PM
Imagine that. Kertcher driving way over his talent level again. Guy wrecks more people with bonehead moves than anyone I can ever remember. Glad to see IRA finally parked him.
Those defending the move or thinking it's anything other than wreckless driving must not know Mike Kertcher's reputation for taking other people out.
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Everything you said is spot on correct....
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Posted By: buzz rightrear on May 27 2013 at 09:42:35 PM
looks to me like when the 80 car slid the lapped car he ended up with too much momentum and another lapped car blocking him in front and he had to try to make it past the other lapped car. he got boxed in with too much momentum and tried to beat the 2 car past the lapped car but just didn't make it.
the guy in the 80 had no where to go after he slid the first lapped car. he was going to run into the other lapped car for sure, so he just tried to do the only thing he could, which was try to get around the other lapped car, and hope it worked out. he couldn't slow down so he had to just get back on the gas and try to make it through the hole between the lapped car on the inside and the 2 car on the outside. he did the right thing because he saved himself, but unfortunately he took out the 2 car. i think the guy in the 80 thought he could slide the first lapped car and come out with enough room to slide up in front of the 2 car, but misjudged how fast he was catching the other lapped car.
just a bad racing scenario.
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He punts more cars than anybody running with the IRA
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May 28, 2013 at
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Posted By: reporacer on May 28 2013 at 07:41:19 AM
That's Mikes patented move the "SLIDE SLAM". He's really gotten good at it. He sends the leader flipping and the 80k takes the lead with no or minimal damage. Classy move. Nothing will change until he is responsible financially for his own car which will never happen. Its silver spoon racer syndrome. Kudos to the IRA for finally doing something. Capt Jim do yourself a favor and give him the boot and give BK a call!
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it's good they did something but it wasn't the right thing. it was the best they could do after a mistake was made. the mistake, letting him walk out the pits with the money and the win. not quite as bad a penalty when he gets the boot the next night when he could have crashed on his own or not won.
what am I chopped liver repo. don't forget about me. I got BK covered. 
that's the type of situation i'd get into. there's much more potential for the CAPTAIN JIM SPECIAL than has been realized with the team. just very very good equipment. with reg fresh tires. I fact the last feature I won, mike ran second and he had the superior equip by far, and he tried to say something smart when I was walking out the pits. like i'm lucky the race ended. lol
I told him " he had 25 laps just like I did and we started a row apart." only time he was never close but on restarts and,he still couldn't even get close to try one of his "summer slams. So as I continue with my rant. " i'll tell ya what mike we'll go back out there and switch cars and see who walks out with the trophy" I gestured with the trophy at him, gave a wink turned around and walked out to a roar of laughter. some of his crew included. 
Kurt Winker
the AMERICAN WAY 10w.
Peace and Love till I have to
race against ya. ;)
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May 28, 2013 at
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Posted By: hotrod10w on May 28 2013 at 11:47:33 AM
it's good they did something but it wasn't the right thing. it was the best they could do after a mistake was made. the mistake, letting him walk out the pits with the money and the win. not quite as bad a penalty when he gets the boot the next night when he could have crashed on his own or not won.
what am I chopped liver repo. don't forget about me. I got BK covered.
that's the type of situation i'd get into. there's much more potential for the CAPTAIN JIM SPECIAL than has been realized with the team. just very very good equipment. with reg fresh tires. I fact the last feature I won, mike ran second and he had the superior equip by far, and he tried to say something smart when I was walking out the pits. like i'm lucky the race ended. lol
I told him " he had 25 laps just like I did and we started a row apart." only time he was never close but on restarts and,he still couldn't even get close to try one of his "summer slams. So as I continue with my rant. " i'll tell ya what mike we'll go back out there and switch cars and see who walks out with the trophy" I gestured with the trophy at him, gave a wink turned around and walked out to a roar of laughter. some of his crew included.
Kurt Winker
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we had motor problems the next week for the outlaw show and ended up crashed out by a spinning car. mike had a good clean run in the top ten I believe. So he's capable of running a clean race.
well it was a perfect recipe to retire, I had beaten all the odds and all the doubters in earning that win. so I retired, in my mind I was going out on top and that's the way I like it.
the AMERICAN WAY 10w.
Peace and Love till I have to
race against ya. ;)
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May 28, 2013 at
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not like it's the only slide job gone wrong is it?
being "proud" of fighting by one poster!!!
Ascot was the greatest of all time..
West Capital wasn't half bad either..
Life is good...
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May 28, 2013 at
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not like it's the only slide job gone wrong is it?
being "proud" of fighting by one poster!!!
Ascot was the greatest of all time..
West Capital wasn't half bad either..
Life is good...
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I'm no way affiliated with any of the teams out there, just a fan. But if anyone thinks the IRA or Capt Jim would be better off without Kertscher in the 80k, they're wrong. Calling for fighting, booting him out of his ride, and rehashing races from years ago? Really? Seems like this is just an excuse for people to pile onto a driver they probably weren't a fan of to begin with more than anything. Was the crash his fault? Yes. Did he pay a penalty by getting parked for a race? Yes. Is he still a good and exciting driver for fans to watch? YES! He might wreck some stuff, but he has also won a bunch of races that a more conservative driver would not have.
I didn't like seeing what happened Saturday night, but the guy was held accountable. It was a bonehead move on his part, but all this other talk of retribution is excessive.
"They'll learn."
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Posted By: Backspacer on May 28 2013 at 01:31:49 PM
I'm no way affiliated with any of the teams out there, just a fan. But if anyone thinks the IRA or Capt Jim would be better off without Kertscher in the 80k, they're wrong. Calling for fighting, booting him out of his ride, and rehashing races from years ago? Really? Seems like this is just an excuse for people to pile onto a driver they probably weren't a fan of to begin with more than anything. Was the crash his fault? Yes. Did he pay a penalty by getting parked for a race? Yes. Is he still a good and exciting driver for fans to watch? YES! He might wreck some stuff, but he has also won a bunch of races that a more conservative driver would not have.
I didn't like seeing what happened Saturday night, but the guy was held accountable. It was a bonehead move on his part, but all this other talk of retribution is excessive.
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Backspacer, Well presented and said!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks for taking the time to contemplate the situation and communicate your thoughts.
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May 28, 2013 at
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That hot rod guy sounds so tough, I am afraid to be on the computer at the same time... 
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Posted By: BIGFISH on May 28 2013 at 03:20:42 AM
Slide job, what slide job?
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May 28, 2013 at
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Posted By: Backspacer on May 28 2013 at 01:31:49 PM
I'm no way affiliated with any of the teams out there, just a fan. But if anyone thinks the IRA or Capt Jim would be better off without Kertscher in the 80k, they're wrong. Calling for fighting, booting him out of his ride, and rehashing races from years ago? Really? Seems like this is just an excuse for people to pile onto a driver they probably weren't a fan of to begin with more than anything. Was the crash his fault? Yes. Did he pay a penalty by getting parked for a race? Yes. Is he still a good and exciting driver for fans to watch? YES! He might wreck some stuff, but he has also won a bunch of races that a more conservative driver would not have.
I didn't like seeing what happened Saturday night, but the guy was held accountable. It was a bonehead move on his part, but all this other talk of retribution is excessive.
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Trouble with him being parked is it doesn't cost him a dime. Sitting out a week after tearing up $5k worth of someone else's stuff doesn't cut it. Especially when it wasn't just a racing deal, but HORRIBLE judgement akin to changing lanes without looking on the freeway, or blowing through a red light hoping it will work out. Stupid people and dickheads only get the message one of two ways; You gotta hit these guys in the wallet, or hit them in the teeth, take your pick.
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Posted By: Ryan16r on May 28 2013 at 03:44:04 PM
Trouble with him being parked is it doesn't cost him a dime. Sitting out a week after tearing up $5k worth of someone else's stuff doesn't cut it. Especially when it wasn't just a racing deal, but HORRIBLE judgement akin to changing lanes without looking on the freeway, or blowing through a red light hoping it will work out. Stupid people and dickheads only get the message one of two ways; You gotta hit these guys in the wallet, or hit them in the teeth, take your pick.
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The difference is racing doesn't have stop signs,lanes or other "rules" like that.Thats why people go to watch in the first place, and I don't mean to see equipment get wrecked its the only legal place to let'r rip.
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May 28, 2013 at
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That's a punt, not a slidejob; looked pretty blatant too. He shoulda been blackflagged for rough driving.
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Posted By: Ryan16r on May 28 2013 at 03:44:04 PM
Trouble with him being parked is it doesn't cost him a dime. Sitting out a week after tearing up $5k worth of someone else's stuff doesn't cut it. Especially when it wasn't just a racing deal, but HORRIBLE judgement akin to changing lanes without looking on the freeway, or blowing through a red light hoping it will work out. Stupid people and dickheads only get the message one of two ways; You gotta hit these guys in the wallet, or hit them in the teeth, take your pick.
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He sat out a night which cost him the point lead and an opprtunity to win purse money. Are you suggesting a fine as well? Good luck with that. I've been going to sprint car races for 25+ years and I don't think I've ever seen anyone punished for rough driving.
As far as "hitting someone in the teeth" goes, that is ridiculous. If that's the way you want to settle things, be my guest, but don't think that that couldn't come with ACTUAL legal ramifications. Also, be careful what you wish for, as I'm guessing the guy you want to hit isn't going to stand there with his arms behind his back and let you pound away.
Again, I'm not defending the 80k's actions, but he was held accountable. Any more than that is unrealistic and unprecedented. Move on and let the drivers settle it the way it should be...on the track.
"They'll learn."
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Posted By: reporacer on May 28 2013 at 07:41:19 AM
That's Mikes patented move the "SLIDE SLAM". He's really gotten good at it. He sends the leader flipping and the 80k takes the lead with no or minimal damage. Classy move. Nothing will change until he is responsible financially for his own car which will never happen. Its silver spoon racer syndrome. Kudos to the IRA for finally doing something. Capt Jim do yourself a favor and give him the boot and give BK a call!
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I don't think Bud Kaeding is available.
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Posted By: hotrod10w on May 28 2013 at 11:47:33 AM
it's good they did something but it wasn't the right thing. it was the best they could do after a mistake was made. the mistake, letting him walk out the pits with the money and the win. not quite as bad a penalty when he gets the boot the next night when he could have crashed on his own or not won.
what am I chopped liver repo. don't forget about me. I got BK covered.
that's the type of situation i'd get into. there's much more potential for the CAPTAIN JIM SPECIAL than has been realized with the team. just very very good equipment. with reg fresh tires. I fact the last feature I won, mike ran second and he had the superior equip by far, and he tried to say something smart when I was walking out the pits. like i'm lucky the race ended. lol
I told him " he had 25 laps just like I did and we started a row apart." only time he was never close but on restarts and,he still couldn't even get close to try one of his "summer slams. So as I continue with my rant. " i'll tell ya what mike we'll go back out there and switch cars and see who walks out with the trophy" I gestured with the trophy at him, gave a wink turned around and walked out to a roar of laughter. some of his crew included.
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Yeah Kurt these losers are in love with Kristan for who knows why. The guy hasn't done anything but they all talk about how good he's gonna be . When?
I think one of the problems now in the IRA is that there are too many guys out there who shouldn't be racing a sprint car with a few pretty good cars and drivers. They just get in the way and are way off the pace.
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This is what I would call a "Wimmer". The driver of the 80 car clearly ran out of talent before he left turn two.
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Hey dick danger.
Have you ever been in a 410? I was once and it scared the crop out of me. Anyone who has the balls and equipment to race a 410 with the IRA has my respect. BK has talent and can race clean for the lead as he proved a couple of years ago while racing with Sexton. Go back to your favorite subject (the men's room)
Go to 1:36 in the video.
I tell it like I see it.
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Posted By: Backspacer on May 28 2013 at 05:17:48 PM
He sat out a night which cost him the point lead and an opprtunity to win purse money. Are you suggesting a fine as well? Good luck with that. I've been going to sprint car races for 25+ years and I don't think I've ever seen anyone punished for rough driving.
As far as "hitting someone in the teeth" goes, that is ridiculous. If that's the way you want to settle things, be my guest, but don't think that that couldn't come with ACTUAL legal ramifications. Also, be careful what you wish for, as I'm guessing the guy you want to hit isn't going to stand there with his arms behind his back and let you pound away.
Again, I'm not defending the 80k's actions, but he was held accountable. Any more than that is unrealistic and unprecedented. Move on and let the drivers settle it the way it should be...on the track.
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Sitting out a night is like a zero sum penalty to me. That could happen if the truck breaks down on the way to the track. I'm absolutely suggesting a fine, in the form of a bill for every piece, part, nut and bolt that so much as had a scratch on it that wasn't there before. I know it's outlandish, but I really do think it's the only way to keep guys in control. While Formula 1 might not get everything right, they're doing it better than most organizations when it comes to contact on the race track. And the way I see it, it protects everyone's stuff in the long run.
As far as knocking someone in the mouth, you're right, it's no way to settle things without ramifications, to say the least. But I was trying to paint that stark a picture, because I really do think these are the only two ways to affect some change in some of these guys, other than tracks and sanctioning bodies blacklisting these hazards altogether. There are a few select cars here in Ca. that you KNOW will wreck someone before the night is out, you can practically set your watch by it. That ain't racing. I don't know what it is, but it ain't racing.
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A couple of thoughts: Wilmot is not a great track for sprint cars. There is no way that the driver of the 2 car should have been able to walk across the track to get to the 80 car. It shows very poorly on both the track and the IRA. He should have been stopped before he ever got to the other car. You are an official act like one. It was a very aggressive/bonehead move that the 80 car did. However, it is not the worst move that I have seen this year. If the officials did not like the move, they should have black flagged him for the event. There is no reason to give him a suspension for that move. In my opinion, the driver of the 2 deserved a suspension more than the driver of the 80.
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