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January 28, 2013 at
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Hello everyone. I just moved back to Southern California after being away for about 8 years. When I left it was pretty much just Perris, Ventura and Bakersfield for sprints on dirt (within my driving range).
I'm really excited to see the changes that have occured with Victorville and OSS. I noticed the URA schedule seemed to be built around the USAC/CRA schedule, with a few conflicts on the 360 sprint side.
I was just curious how many of the USAC/CRA guys will run with URA? Has it been "typical" for them to break away on off weekends?
Thanks in advance....looking forward to the start of the season.
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this is the first season for ura so we will see soon enough . hopefully racers will understand we need all the tracks we can get , even if they are not usac , and help support these tracks , without bias , for the better of sprintcar racing here in so-cal !
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Posted By: bentaxle on January 28 2013 at 04:47:54 PM
this is the first season for ura so we will see soon enough . hopefully racers will understand we need all the tracks we can get , even if they are not usac , and help support these tracks , without bias , for the better of sprintcar racing here in so-cal !
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I agree - I hope they do support them at least to some degree and USAC plays nice as well.
Thanks for your reply.
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I would doubt if many of the USAC teams will travel all the way to V.Ville,heck they won't even take their 300k rigs to the Central Valley!for a sanctioned race let alone to an unsanctioned show at V.Ville or OSS.
Ihope I'm way off base on this.but we'll see.
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Posted By: dbbd022 on January 28 2013 at 02:44:35 PM
Hello everyone. I just moved back to Southern California after being away for about 8 years. When I left it was pretty much just Perris, Ventura and Bakersfield for sprints on dirt (within my driving range).
I'm really excited to see the changes that have occured with Victorville and OSS. I noticed the URA schedule seemed to be built around the USAC/CRA schedule, with a few conflicts on the 360 sprint side.
I was just curious how many of the USAC/CRA guys will run with URA? Has it been "typical" for them to break away on off weekends?
Thanks in advance....looking forward to the start of the season.
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Check out the Tulare thunderbowl schedule also kings speedway in Hanford . They are still in SAMEDAY driving to and from and great racing at both places. I drive from orange co to and from these two tracks and in my own bed late the same night.
We need more sprint car racing at our home track.
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Posted By: dirtface on January 28 2013 at 09:01:10 PM
Check out the Tulare thunderbowl schedule also kings speedway in Hanford . They are still in SAMEDAY driving to and from and great racing at both places. I drive from orange co to and from these two tracks and in my own bed late the same night.
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Thanks! They are on my "hitlist" - I haven't been to either track. I was stationed here in the early 2000's but never made it there for one reason or another. Now that Southern California is my home I definitely plan on getting up that way r hopefully this season.
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Posted By: dbbd022 on January 28 2013 at 10:09:27 PM
Thanks! They are on my "hitlist" - I haven't been to either track. I was stationed here in the early 2000's but never made it there for one reason or another. Now that Southern California is my home I definitely plan on getting up that way r hopefully this season.
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There are a handful of cars still around SoCal that simply can't afford to run with USAC all the time, but want to race just the same. The URA is an answer to that. I agree with Rob that it would be hard for me to take my car to a non-points event if I was committed to running the USAC schedule, but I still think you will see 15-18 cars at these URA events. Hey, couple heats, maybe a semi main; and a main event with the night over by 10pm. What's not fun about that? As the thing grows (if it does) you might see people that would never try to run with USAC getting cars together to have some fun. I know lots of guys that have way more money in dune buggies than a lot of people have in their Sprinters; you're just not going to run with USAC like that but you can go run a little quarter or the 3/8's up in VV and have some fun. Weekend warrior style.
I think the real measuring stick for the state of our sport is how many midget cars you see. There are just not many of them around anymore, they race for less money and cost more than a sprinter in a lot of ways so I am more interested in true midgets making a come back than I am anything else.
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Posted By: duckslayer on January 29 2013 at 12:32:36 PM
There are a handful of cars still around SoCal that simply can't afford to run with USAC all the time, but want to race just the same. The URA is an answer to that. I agree with Rob that it would be hard for me to take my car to a non-points event if I was committed to running the USAC schedule, but I still think you will see 15-18 cars at these URA events. Hey, couple heats, maybe a semi main; and a main event with the night over by 10pm. What's not fun about that? As the thing grows (if it does) you might see people that would never try to run with USAC getting cars together to have some fun. I know lots of guys that have way more money in dune buggies than a lot of people have in their Sprinters; you're just not going to run with USAC like that but you can go run a little quarter or the 3/8's up in VV and have some fun. Weekend warrior style.
I think the real measuring stick for the state of our sport is how many midget cars you see. There are just not many of them around anymore, they race for less money and cost more than a sprinter in a lot of ways so I am more interested in true midgets making a come back than I am anything else.
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Regarding your first paragraph, I agree 100%. I didn't mean to imply my attendance at a URA show depended on some USAC guys being there. I was just trying to get a feel for the situation since I've been away. I'm originally from PA, but fell in love with the wingless sprints when I was stationed here several years ago. I remember some of the SCRA / USAC drama and while I didn't understand all of the politics behind it, I am hoping we don't go down that road. I just want to see good racing, whether it's URA, USAC or a non-sanctioned show. I am hopeful both parties will allow room on both schedules for fans to support.
And where I just came from, a field of 15-18 cars in the top division would have been a welcome sight. You don't need 20, 30 or more cars for a good show as long as most of the cars are competitive with one another.
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Posted By: turn4rob on January 28 2013 at 05:56:34 PM
I would doubt if many of the USAC teams will travel all the way to V.Ville,heck they won't even take their 300k rigs to the Central Valley!for a sanctioned race let alone to an unsanctioned show at V.Ville or OSS.
Ihope I'm way off base on this.but we'll see.
Robert G.Fiechter aka
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Just for reference the URA is a sanctioning body with points and championships and a points fund. Not a open comp one off deal.
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Posted By: dbbd022 on January 31 2013 at 01:57:28 PM
Regarding your first paragraph, I agree 100%. I didn't mean to imply my attendance at a URA show depended on some USAC guys being there. I was just trying to get a feel for the situation since I've been away. I'm originally from PA, but fell in love with the wingless sprints when I was stationed here several years ago. I remember some of the SCRA / USAC drama and while I didn't understand all of the politics behind it, I am hoping we don't go down that road. I just want to see good racing, whether it's URA, USAC or a non-sanctioned show. I am hopeful both parties will allow room on both schedules for fans to support.
And where I just came from, a field of 15-18 cars in the top division would have been a welcome sight. You don't need 20, 30 or more cars for a good show as long as most of the cars are competitive with one another.
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The URA purposely waited to announce a schedule that would have very little if any conflict for the teams and fans. Thanks Scotty
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Posted By: SB-twosix on January 31 2013 at 04:28:21 PM
The URA purposely waited to announce a schedule that would have very little if any conflict for the teams and fans. Thanks Scotty
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Thanks Scotty. I'm looking forward to seeing Victorville and OSS this season.
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Thanks Scotty. I'm looking forward to seeing Victorville and OSS this season.
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Combined 2013 CRA and URA schedules.......Enjoy!!!
March 1: Canyon Speedway Park - Peoria, AZ (Copper On Dirt)
March 2: Canyon Speedway Park - Peoria, AZ (Copper On Dirt)
March 9: Perris Auto Speedway - CRA Sprints, PAS Senior Sprints and California Lightning Sprints
March 16: RT.66 Unlim. Sprints, 360 Limited Sprints, Unlim. Midgets, Focus Midgets, NMRA TQs
March 23: OSS Unlim. Sprints, 360 Limited Sprints, Unlim. Midgets, Focus Midgets, CDCRA
March 30: Open date
April 6: Perris Auto Speedway - CRA Sprints, PAS Senior Sprints and California Lightning Sprints
April 13: Open date
April 19: Cocopah Speedway - Yuma, AZ
April 20: Cocopah Speedway - Yuma, AZ
April 27: OSS Unlim. Sprints, 360 Limited Sprints, Unlim. Midgets, Focus Midgets, CLS,TQs,
May 04: Perris Auto Speedway - CRA Sprints, PAS Senior Sprints and California Lightning Sprints
May 11: RT. 66 Unlim. Sprints, 360 Limited Sprints, WRA, Dirt Legends
May 18: Thunderbowl Raceway - Tulare, CA
May 25: Perris Auto Speedway - Salute to Indy W/CRA Sprints, PAS Senior Sprints and California Lightning Sprints
June 1: OSS Unlim. Sprints, 360 Limited Sprints, (Focus Midgets), CDCRA,CLS (FAIR SHOW)
June 8: Open date
June 14: Ocean Speedway - Watsonville, CA
June 15: Santa Maria Speedway - Santa Maria, CA
June 22: Open date
June 29: OSS Unlim. Sprints, 360 Limited Sprints, Focus Midgets, Cal. Lightning Sprints
July 04: Perris Auto Speedway - Firecracker 30 W/CRA Sprints, PAS Senior Sprints and California Lightning Sprints
July 6: Open date
July 13: Open date
July 20: Open date
July 27: Open date
August 3: Open date
August 9: Ocean Speedway - Watsonville, CA
August 10: Santa Maria Speedway - Santa Maria, CA
August 17: Perris Auto Speedway - California Racers Hall of Fame night CRA Sprints, PAS Senior Sprints and California Lightning Sprints
August 24: SMS Unlim. Sprints, 360 Limited Sprints, Unlim. Midgets, Focus Midgets
August 31: Calistoga Speedway - Calistoga, CA (Louie Vermeil Classic)
September 1: Calistoga Speedway - Calistoga, CA (Louie Vermeil Classic)
September 7: Open date
September 14: Perris Auto Speedway - Glenn Howard Memorial W/CRA Sprints, PAS Senior Sprints and California Lightning Sprints
September 21: Open date
September 28: Open date
October 05: Perris Auto Speedway - Fair race W/ CRA Sprints
October 12: Open date
October 19: OSS Unlim. Sprints, 360 Limited Sprints, Unlim. Midgets, Focus Midgets, TQs
October 25: *Canyon Speedway Park - Peoria, AZ (Hall of Fame Classic)
October 26: *Canyon Speedway Park - Peoria, AZ (Hall of Fame Classic)
November 01: Perris Auto Speedway - 18th Annual Oval Nationals W/National USAC and CRA Sprints
November 02: Perris Auto Speedway - 18th Annual Oval Nationals W/National USAC and CRA Sprints
November 9: OSS Unlim. Sprints, 360 Limited Sprints, Unlim. Midgets, Focus Midgets, CDCRA
November 16: Open date
November 23: Open date
November 29/30: RT.66 Turkey Classic!!!!!!!!! This schedule is subject to change!!!!!!
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Just for reference the URA is a sanctioning body with points and championships and a points fund. Not a open comp one off deal.
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good to hear Scotty.BTW do you have a format that URA will be using I.E. are you going to have time trials or pill draw etc.
you can count on my ol ass to be in the stands
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Posted By: turn4rob on January 31 2013 at 05:17:52 PM
good to hear Scotty.BTW do you have a format that URA will be using I.E. are you going to have time trials or pill draw etc.
you can count on my ol ass to be in the stands
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Qualify unlimited divisions,pill pick limited divisions,trophy dashes, meet and greet, and some serious inversions.......the way it is meant to be.
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This may be a bit easier to read............
Combined 2013 CRA and URA schedules.......Enjoy!!!
March 1: Canyon Speedway Park - Peoria, AZ (Copper On Dirt)
March 2: Canyon Speedway Park - Peoria, AZ (Copper On Dirt)
March 9: Perris Auto Speedway - CRA Sprints, PAS Senior Sprints and
California Lightning Sprints
March 16: RT.66 Unlim. Sprints, 360 Limited Sprints, Unlim. Midgets,
Focus Midgets, NMRA TQs
March 23: OSS Unlim. Sprints, 360 Limited Sprints, Unlim. Midgets, Focus
Midgets, CDCRA
March 30: Open date
April 6: Perris Auto Speedway - CRA Sprints, PAS Senior Sprints and
California Lightning Sprints
April 13: Open date
April 19: Cocopah Speedway - Yuma, AZ
April 20: Cocopah Speedway - Yuma, AZ
April 27: OSS Unlim. Sprints, 360 Limited Sprints, Unlim. Midgets, Focus
Midgets, CLS,TQs,
May 04: Perris Auto Speedway - CRA Sprints, PAS Senior Sprints and
California Lightning Sprints
May 11: RT. 66 Unlim. Sprints, 360 Limited Sprints, WRA, Dirt Legends
May 18: Thunderbowl Raceway - Tulare, CA
May 25: Perris Auto Speedway - Salute to Indy W/CRA Sprints, PAS Senior
Sprints and California Lightning Sprints
June 1: OSS Unlim. Sprints, 360 Limited Sprints, (Focus Midgets),
CDCRA,CLS (FAIR SHOW)
June 8: Open date
June 14: Ocean Speedway - Watsonville, CA
June 15: Santa Maria Speedway - Santa Maria, CA
June 22: Open date
June 29: OSS Unlim. Sprints, 360 Limited Sprints, Focus Midgets, Cal.
Lightning Sprints
July 04: Perris Auto Speedway - Firecracker 30 W/CRA Sprints, PAS Senior
Sprints and California Lightning Sprints
July 6: Open date
July 13: Open date
July 20: Open date
July 27: Open date
August 3: Open date
August 9: Ocean Speedway - Watsonville, CA
August 10: Santa Maria Speedway - Santa Maria, CA
August 17: Perris Auto Speedway - California Racers Hall of Fame night
CRA Sprints, PAS Senior Sprints and California Lightning Sprints
August 24: SMS Unlim. Sprints, 360 Limited Sprints, Unlim. Midgets,
Focus Midgets
August 31: Calistoga Speedway - Calistoga, CA (Louie Vermeil Classic)
September 1: Calistoga Speedway - Calistoga, CA (Louie Vermeil Classic)
September 7: Open date
September 14: Perris Auto Speedway - Glenn Howard Memorial W/CRA
Sprints, PAS Senior Sprints and California Lightning Sprints
September 21: Open date
September 28: Open date
October 05: Perris Auto Speedway - Fair race W/ CRA Sprints
October 12: Open date
October 19: OSS Unlim. Sprints, 360 Limited Sprints, Unlim. Midgets,
Focus Midgets, TQs
October 25: *Canyon Speedway Park - Peoria, AZ (Hall of Fame Classic)
October 26: *Canyon Speedway Park - Peoria, AZ (Hall of Fame Classic)
November 01: Perris Auto Speedway - 18th Annual Oval Nationals
W/National USAC and CRA Sprints
November 02: Perris Auto Speedway - 18th Annual Oval Nationals
W/National USAC and CRA Sprints
November 9: OSS Unlim. Sprints, 360 Limited Sprints, Unlim. Midgets,
Focus Midgets, CDCRA
November 16: Open date
November 23: Open date
November 29/30: RT.66 Turkey Classic!!!!!!!!!
This schedule is subject
to change!!!!!!
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so then what happened on the midget side of things?...pretty much every race conflicts with ventura. the purse and car count is really what is going to determine where i chose to run my car.
mitchell johnson
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February 01, 2013 at
05:47:33 PM by Nose 2 Tail
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This may be a bit easier to read............
Combined 2013 CRA and URA schedules.......Enjoy!!!
March 1: Canyon Speedway Park - Peoria, AZ (Copper On Dirt)
March 2: Canyon Speedway Park - Peoria, AZ (Copper On Dirt)
March 9: Perris Auto Speedway - CRA Sprints, PAS Senior Sprints and
California Lightning Sprints
March 16: RT.66 Unlim. Sprints, 360 Limited Sprints, Unlim. Midgets,
Focus Midgets, NMRA TQs
March 23: OSS Unlim. Sprints, 360 Limited Sprints, Unlim. Midgets, Focus
Midgets, CDCRA
March 30: Open date
April 6: Perris Auto Speedway - CRA Sprints, PAS Senior Sprints and
California Lightning Sprints
April 13: Open date
April 19: Cocopah Speedway - Yuma, AZ
April 20: Cocopah Speedway - Yuma, AZ
April 27: OSS Unlim. Sprints, 360 Limited Sprints, Unlim. Midgets, Focus
Midgets, CLS,TQs,
May 04: Perris Auto Speedway - CRA Sprints, PAS Senior Sprints and
California Lightning Sprints
May 11: RT. 66 Unlim. Sprints, 360 Limited Sprints, WRA, Dirt Legends
May 18: Thunderbowl Raceway - Tulare, CA
May 25: Perris Auto Speedway - Salute to Indy W/CRA Sprints, PAS Senior
Sprints and California Lightning Sprints
June 1: OSS Unlim. Sprints, 360 Limited Sprints, (Focus Midgets),
CDCRA,CLS (FAIR SHOW)
June 8: Open date
June 14: Ocean Speedway - Watsonville, CA
June 15: Santa Maria Speedway - Santa Maria, CA
June 22: Open date
June 29: OSS Unlim. Sprints, 360 Limited Sprints, Focus Midgets, Cal.
Lightning Sprints
July 04: Perris Auto Speedway - Firecracker 30 W/CRA Sprints, PAS Senior
Sprints and California Lightning Sprints
July 6: Open date
July 13: Open date
July 20: Open date
July 27: Open date
August 3: Open date
August 9: Ocean Speedway - Watsonville, CA
August 10: Santa Maria Speedway - Santa Maria, CA
August 17: Perris Auto Speedway - California Racers Hall of Fame night
CRA Sprints, PAS Senior Sprints and California Lightning Sprints
August 24: SMS Unlim. Sprints, 360 Limited Sprints, Unlim. Midgets,
Focus Midgets
August 31: Calistoga Speedway - Calistoga, CA (Louie Vermeil Classic)
September 1: Calistoga Speedway - Calistoga, CA (Louie Vermeil Classic)
September 7: Open date
September 14: Perris Auto Speedway - Glenn Howard Memorial W/CRA
Sprints, PAS Senior Sprints and California Lightning Sprints
September 21: Open date
September 28: Open date
October 05: Perris Auto Speedway - Fair race W/ CRA Sprints
October 12: Open date
October 19: OSS Unlim. Sprints, 360 Limited Sprints, Unlim. Midgets,
Focus Midgets, TQs
October 25: *Canyon Speedway Park - Peoria, AZ (Hall of Fame Classic)
October 26: *Canyon Speedway Park - Peoria, AZ (Hall of Fame Classic)
November 01: Perris Auto Speedway - 18th Annual Oval Nationals
W/National USAC and CRA Sprints
November 02: Perris Auto Speedway - 18th Annual Oval Nationals
W/National USAC and CRA Sprints
November 9: OSS Unlim. Sprints, 360 Limited Sprints, Unlim. Midgets,
Focus Midgets, CDCRA
November 16: Open date
November 23: Open date
November 29/30: RT.66 Turkey Classic!!!!!!!!!
This schedule is subject
to change!!!!!!
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On all the Perris Auto Speedway Dates,,,,,,Needs to be added,,,THE PAS YOUNG GUNS,,,,,,,This is a new open wheel Div, designed for young kids and young adults ,,,,, to brush up there skills,,,, and fine tune the art of open wheel racing,,,, then maybe one day ,,,,, they will become a BIG DOG in the open wheel arena,,,,,,,, ZZ
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so then what happened on the midget side of things?...pretty much every race conflicts with ventura. the purse and car count is really what is going to determine where i chose to run my car.
mitchell johnson
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Jimmy, Noel ,and I have discussed some GRUDGE matches that would put the URA against the VRA......open wheel fans are in for quite a ride this year......SMS,Ventura,OSS,and Route 66 Motorplex have all combined to see if the open wheel clan really wants to race or just sit behind a keyboard.
Scotty
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I can assure you I want to race...I'm still a little unclear as to where at this point is all.
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I can assure you I want to race...I'm still a little unclear as to where at this point is all.
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I apologize if that sounded bad. Was not meant to be an attack. Just saying there will not be a shortage of open wheel racing in So. Cal. THIS year. Wherever you decide to run.....thank you for supporting open wheel racing!!!!!
Scotty
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