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me too.

i say it should run no longer than from the time it starts to the time it finishes.

I agree with you. I think the late model guys will fare better than both the truck regulars and the sprint car guys.

As far as the Nascar license, they will give them to anyone that will enhance their viewership of the race and anyone the owners want to put in the seat. The owners will also foot the bill and the late model drivers will have a chance for a bigger than normal payday. Why wouldn't they run?

The Dillon brothers did not get to where they are because of dirt late model exeperience.

Who said anything about wings? We all can name 20 drivers that came from wingless sprints, midgets and silver crown cars....name me 2 in the last 25 years (about when DLM's started getting the super trick suspensions) that learned their trade in late models and progressed into big league NASCAR? Justin Allgair is probably closest to fitting that bill and he still drove open wheel cars more than DLM's.

carl edwards, clint bowyer

Take a close look to Truck Series payouts at tracks other than Daytona and Talledega and then compare them to the feature payouts of Dirt Late Model purses.

Most Late Model guys will be taking a pay CUT to run the truck series race, the purse just isn't there once you add up the expenses (NASCAR license $1500 per person including crew members), entry fee $1200 or $2000 if they have to go to a back up truck, tires are $1200 per SET and most teams will use 4 sets for a race event.

A majority of the finishing positions pay less than $10,000. Not hard to figure out who's making the $$$ on truck series races (NASCAR is with the sanctioning fee).

tehy drove dirt modifieds, not dirt late models (although Bowyer now owns a late model team)

Take a close look to Truck Series payouts at tracks other than Daytona and Talledega and then compare them to the feature payouts of Dirt Late Model purses.

Most Late Model guys will be taking a pay CUT to run the truck series race, the purse just isn't there once you add up the expenses (NASCAR license $1500 per person including crew members), entry fee $1200 or $2000 if they have to go to a back up truck, tires are $1200 per SET and most teams will use 4 sets for a race event.

A majority of the finishing positions pay less than $10,000. Not hard to figure out who's making the $$$ on truck series races (NASCAR is with the sanctioning fee).

I did take a look at the payouts from the average truck series races. Bristol for instance pays almost $30,000 to win and $26,000 for second. Lets say I own a truck and have a sponsor that is anticipating a large audience for this race. I will gladly put a top late model driver in the seat, and pay his entry fee. You are trying to tell me that a late model driver won't park his car for the night, jump in someone elses truck for a few hours and pocket 30-50% of a $30,000 1st place or $26,000 second? They don't pay for tires. They don't pay for crew. They don't pay for fuel. They don't wreck their stuff. Therefore, this would be one of the biggest payouts of the year for them. Easy money. Yes, there are bigger races for them than this. But they also race a lot of $10,000 to win and $600 for 20th and they have to pay all the bills. It is a no brainer.

I did take a look at the payouts from the average truck series races. Bristol for instance pays almost $30,000 to win and $26,000 for second. Lets say I own a truck and have a sponsor that is anticipating a large audience for this race. I will gladly put a top late model driver in the seat, and pay his entry fee. You are trying to tell me that a late model driver won't park his car for the night, jump in someone elses truck for a few hours and pocket 30-50% of a $30,000 1st place or $26,000 second? They don't pay for tires. They don't pay for crew. They don't pay for fuel. They don't wreck their stuff. Therefore, this would be one of the biggest payouts of the year for them. Easy money. Yes, there are bigger races for them than this. But they also race a lot of $10,000 to win and $600 for 20th and they have to pay all the bills. It is a no brainer.

my mistake. but close enough.

And the drivers don't get the purse $$, the team does. Drivers race for a % of the $$ earned and some of those $$$'s are part of incentive programs for where the driver is in the points, leading certiain laps, etc, etc..

Drivers have to pass certain tests in order to obtain a NASCAR license and no truck team owner in their right mind is going to foot the costs for a one race driver (and anyone he wants to bring to the pit area with him).

I saw one race @ martinsville (which is more comparable for Eldora IMO, and the truck that finished 8th got less purse $$ than 13 trucks that finished behind it (and the truck in 8th place was a Joe Gibbs truck with Jason Leffler behind the wheel, not just a rent-a-ride guy in a back-marker truck).

The NASCAR purses are set up to REWARD the REGULAR drivers and those high up in the points as "appearance fees", Former champion appearance fees, defending champion appearance fees, former race winner appearance fees and other guaranteed monies are part of the purse, NONE of the Late Model, Sprint, Midget, Silver Crown, or other dirt division drivers are going to get those monies put into their purse earnings, so they will get substantially less $$ than a regular would.

They do the same with Cup and Nationwide purses. Dave Blaney can WIN a Cup race and more than likely would make less than at least 5 drivers that finish benind him.