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The only thing that can fix Sunday night would be to take the wings off. Heading down Saturday for the week but if the weekend schedule stays the same in 2013 we'll be saving out money and come down Monday instead.

The original line-up had USAC on Saturday Night with the 360 Nat's finale.

From what I heard, purse was the same for USAC as what their Sunday show has been in years past, but USAC didn't want to be the "support class" and their office personnel didn't want to race here if they didn't get top billing.

What can Knoxville do about USAC officials not wanting to be here??

To me, this is why USAC is a terrible sanctioning body. Instead of swallowing their pride and being the "support class" and racing in front of 10,000 people (only 1/2 of which ever came on Sunday night BTW) and trying to GROW their fanbase, they decided to go to a track where they draw well with their core base already. How is that GROWING YOUR FANBASE (which should be the goal for ALL sanctioning bodies)?

Could Knoxville have run them on Sunday and had a regular 410 show with the 360's like years past? Sure, but the Sunday USAC show wasn't working, Fans were in Knoxville, but they were skipping Sunday's show (~1/2 of what was attending on Saturday and less than what attend Thursday and Friday of 360 Nationals). This was a way to give USAC a bigger crowd, and bring in a big crowd on Sunday as well (and let's face it, EVERY racetrack is struggling in the current economy, they need as many $$ making shows as they can get).

The original line-up had USAC on Saturday Night with the 360 Nat's finale.

From what I heard, purse was the same for USAC as what their Sunday show has been in years past, but USAC didn't want to be the "support class" and their office personnel didn't want to race here if they didn't get top billing.

What can Knoxville do about USAC officials not wanting to be here??

To me, this is why USAC is a terrible sanctioning body. Instead of swallowing their pride and being the "support class" and racing in front of 10,000 people (only 1/2 of which ever came on Sunday night BTW) and trying to GROW their fanbase, they decided to go to a track where they draw well with their core base already. How is that GROWING YOUR FANBASE (which should be the goal for ALL sanctioning bodies)?

Could Knoxville have run them on Sunday and had a regular 410 show with the 360's like years past? Sure, but the Sunday USAC show wasn't working, Fans were in Knoxville, but they were skipping Sunday's show (~1/2 of what was attending on Saturday and less than what attend Thursday and Friday of 360 Nationals). This was a way to give USAC a bigger crowd, and bring in a big crowd on Sunday as well (and let's face it, EVERY racetrack is struggling in the current economy, they need as many $$ making shows as they can get).

Completely agree with everything you wrote Vande. All politics and squabbling between ASCS, USAC and the speedway aside, I guess I only care about what I personally get to see on the track. 8 nights of winged cars at Knoxville doesn't do it for me. Saturday and Sunday are simply a far lesser value for me in the current format and will ultimatley determine how I choose to spend my money. We have the USA Nationals at Cedar Lake that same weekend and the PGA Champions tour is golfing 3 miles from my house so we'll probably hang closer to home and attend those events next year.

The crowd for the USAC races on Sunday were not as bad as they 360 prelim nights, haha

Granted they weren't as good as the 360 Nats, but that's asking alot.

I do agree with the comments about USAC being too high and mighty, they should have stayed with the date, but oh well.

USAC is at US36 Sunday and both Nights at Oskaloosa, you could get 9 Nights of wing racing and 3 nights of Non-Wing all in the same 10 day stretch.

But, even though this is a sprint car forum, I'll say this. I'd have a really hard time passing up the USA Nationals @ Cedar Lake if I was in that area too.