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April 24, 2012 at
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What is the best way to tie down a sprintcar in a trailer to not damage the cars suspension componants? (shocks, bars etc)
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April 24, 2012 at
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I tie down at the tires
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April 24, 2012 at
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What about the car bouncing up and down going down the road? Does this effect the torsion bars and shocks?
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April 24, 2012 at
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April 24, 2012 at
10:23:21 PM by Hootus6D
I know a lot of guys that put radius rods from the shock tower to the rear arms/front axle. It keeps the suspension from moving during travel.
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April 25, 2012 at
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Posted By: Hootus6D on April 24 2012 at 10:22:13 PM
I know a lot of guys that put radius rods from the shock tower to the rear arms/front axle. It keeps the suspension from moving during travel.
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I would suggest that if you are not running ti shock mounts, we tried it for a while but broke a lot of shock mounts.
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April 25, 2012 at
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Posted By: racefanigan on April 25 2012 at 12:06:53 AM
I would suggest that if you are not running ti shock mounts, we tried it for a while but broke a lot of shock mounts.
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we did the same ,car was towards the back behing d the rear most axle of the traier, it did alot of bouncing around, we run "aluminum shock pins", unfourtunatly the rough interestate we were on broke one pin and cracked the other on the LF, turned out in hotlaps it sheered off, obviously nobody noticed it was damaged prior to hotlaps, anyway, not a good way to start the night, we now place the car in the trailer forward most, its pretty stable there rather than behind the axles ,we have rather long trailer ( If need be I use a strap if the car needs to be loaded quickley if the suspention is blown out or taken apart, rain coming , ect) , wrapping a soft , short (pre fabed ) strap around the underslung portion of the frame and the axle seems ok, front is EZ, rear obviously done after the car is in place in the trailer, use the jack or a couple "tuff guys" to lift the car and you complete the latch let the weight back down and it (chassis weight) will be resting on the axle and tires, not the suspension, just a idea?
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April 25, 2012 at
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Posted By: 305 9A on April 24 2012 at 09:50:26 PM
What is the best way to tie down a sprintcar in a trailer to not damage the cars suspension componants? (shocks, bars etc)
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I made blocks the went under the front and rear frame. This workes awesome but the blocks have to be high enough where the car will weigh down on them and the tie downs are located where it will pull down on the car. This worked in a enclosed trailer, but for some reason when i did it on the open trailer I ended up loosing one on the high way. I think it was due to the improper strap downs.
But yes the car bouncing will wear out the suspension, shocks and bars.
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April 25, 2012 at
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One option would be to use old, worn-out or damaged bars and shocks if you have them. We used "road bars" and "road shocks" when going any distance at all. If you do not yet have any worthless bars and shocks I would suggest finding another racer in your area and ask them if they have any junk bars or shocks you can have. If not, the wood blocks is another good option.
As far as strapping the car. One strap over the left rear is sufficient for even the longest pulls. Just to be safe you may want to run a strap from the front bumper to something in the front of your trailer. Remember to take the car out of gear as well.
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April 25, 2012 at
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I don't think I've seen too many outlaw teams put blocks under cars or put rods in place of shocks, maybe they don't keep bars long enough to worry or constantly rebuilding shocks, but also if you think about what you put your suspension through during a night of racing I wouldn't think the ride down the road could be any worse unless your taking short cuts through corn fields lol
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April 25, 2012 at
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If you ever ride in the trailer for any distance at all you realize how much moving around the car does. I'm sure it wears on everything, bars, shocks, even rod ends some. But we usually pull 2-4 hours one way and I've honestly never actually noticed that wear. Our wing clears our ceiling by 3 or 4 inches and we have holes in the ceiling. That's a lot of movement. We finally started putting radius rods on the rear just to stop that. The front gets old shocks. After a long ride feel the shocks. You'd be surprised at how warm they get. We just like to save our better shocks a little.
We also tie down both rear tires. Too many times we've opened the door and one or the other has lost air. Another thing, if the car is tied down by the tires and sits overnight its a good idea to make a quick check before taking off. You never know when these high quality tires are going to lose air, especially with the pressure of being strapped down. There's nothing worse than getting to the track and having to repair a torn up car before you even start it!
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April 25, 2012 at
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We would put an old motorcycle tire with a slightly infated tube in it under the center of the car.
With straps on both rear tires it would keep the whole car fairly stable and not allow the suspension to move.
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April 25, 2012 at
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Put a 6x6 block under the car towards the rear before strapping the rear tires down. Also, have a set of old junk shocks to put on the car for traveling purposes. The radius rod idea is a good one, but it sounds like a pain in the butt.
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April 25, 2012 at
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If you choose to use the traveling rods, swedge tubes ect, I just picked up a few busted steel shocks from the IMCA guys , hell they break like five thousand of them things a night, I cut the shafts and shock eyes(hiems) off with enuff length to be welded , i used 5/8 coarse all thread and a nut welded to a 13g steel pipe this allowed me to make different length bars with ez , again it wanst good for the aluminum (breakaway) shock pins, but, Agreed , i figure if running it on the track doesnt beat the tar out of them the trailer proubly doesnt do much worse, besides im usually (maintianced out) by loading time anyway, ill be honest.lol , but, for long trips some attention to preserving your equipment doesnt hurt, its funney we can drive a few blocks away from our local track and drive up a bridge or hill to get home, and somehow there is always two - three beer bottels still standing on the wheelwells or counter and thier longnecks! WTF! , I guess no beer goes unharmed in our trailer, and thats all that matters some nights !!
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April 25, 2012 at
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April 25, 2012 at
07:57:40 PM by Ryan16r
We put on old shocks, tie down on the RR with a wide strap, and use an inflatable disc that slides under the tube that crosses the bottom of the chassis under the seat, which takes the load off the bars.
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April 25, 2012 at
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Posted By: dirtdevil on April 25 2012 at 04:04:45 PM
If you choose to use the traveling rods, swedge tubes ect, I just picked up a few busted steel shocks from the IMCA guys , hell they break like five thousand of them things a night, I cut the shafts and shock eyes(hiems) off with enuff length to be welded , i used 5/8 coarse all thread and a nut welded to a 13g steel pipe this allowed me to make different length bars with ez , again it wanst good for the aluminum (breakaway) shock pins, but, Agreed , i figure if running it on the track doesnt beat the tar out of them the trailer proubly doesnt do much worse, besides im usually (maintianced out) by loading time anyway, ill be honest.lol , but, for long trips some attention to preserving your equipment doesnt hurt, its funney we can drive a few blocks away from our local track and drive up a bridge or hill to get home, and somehow there is always two - three beer bottels still standing on the wheelwells or counter and thier longnecks! WTF! , I guess no beer goes unharmed in our trailer, and thats all that matters some nights !!
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I want to be on your pitcrew or teammate. My crew sleeps the whole way home and they dont bring beer.
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April 26, 2012 at
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Posted By: crsa305 on April 25 2012 at 07:59:08 PM
I want to be on your pitcrew or teammate. My crew sleeps the whole way home and they dont bring beer.
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yes sir, Ive heard that one before,lol, we struggle to get a beer sponsor because we would cut into thier profit? so, I guess our sponsorship by tampons, bubblebath, and skin lotion is what weve got. owell , seriously tho, I bet your crew is pretty good at drinking someonelses beer tho too huh? ahh yes, you bring the beer theyll bring the party. anyway, cheers, and goodluck this year..
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