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Wingman
September 12, 2011 at 08:51:59 PM
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I noticed Brooke didn't go to the scales after the UMSS feature. He stayed for the interview while the car went to the scales. What is the ruling on this?




racerman123
September 12, 2011 at 11:10:05 PM
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Did any of the top three get pumpedor have there restrictors checked ????More than likely they did not. Also why dont the umss use a chalk line and theflag man to start the races and make the call on jump starts.. Why do you officals have to control everything... I thought the umss races were not very well run and dragged out.

HahnMotorsports
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September 12, 2011 at 11:43:49 PM
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We tried the chalkline deal....(i liked it) but we had to change it for a guy who could not get it through his head....

The core group of us has been pumped and sealed and has had stacks checked a couple times but i agree with you at a race where there are different cars in the pits there should be some things checked, but checking doesnt matter if the result is "i'll let ya go tonight but have it fixed next time"

 

I know I'm gonna catch hell for this one.




apprentice
September 13, 2011 at 08:02:48 AM
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The UMSS officials checked stacks/restrictors before the races ever got under way......apparently, as Cody stated, starts and restarts have been a problem all season and this is how they are trying to deal with it.



RaceDoc
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September 13, 2011 at 08:28:43 AM
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Posted By: apprentice on September 13 2011 at 08:02:48 AM

The UMSS officials checked stacks/restrictors before the races ever got under way......apparently, as Cody stated, starts and restarts have been a problem all season and this is how they are trying to deal with it.



It's only a problem for guys that keep jumping starts. Use the chalk line and enforce it. Saying the start is whenever the pole guy decides it is after the cone is asking for a big pile up if that pole guy gets chippy and decides to start after passing the cone and if the flagman is waving the green flag when they get to the cone. Even on restarts they should use the chalk line/cone as the start. Keep starts consistent so everyone knows where to start.



JRKracer
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September 13, 2011 at 09:49:08 AM
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This message was edited on September 13, 2011 at 09:58:54 AM by JRKracer
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Posted By: racerman123 on September 12 2011 at 11:10:05 PM
Did any of the top three get pumpedor have there restrictors checked ????More than likely they did not. Also why dont the umss use a chalk line and theflag man to start the races and make the call on jump starts.. Why do you officals have to control everything... I thought the umss races were not very well run and dragged out.


The 14, 63 are sealed. we tubed the 37 at Brainerd and Terry checked stacks. We run everything because someone has to. If you want the job than come out of hidden on the message board and have at it. I would gladly let you do it as you seem to know everything it will take make it better. If you all want this to get better than help, volunteer you time , like I do, instead of piss-en about. You will get NOTHING solved on the message board!

Joe




racerman123
September 13, 2011 at 10:02:53 AM
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What about the cars that were there for the first time that dont run with restrictors, were they checked???How do you seal the stacks ???

apprentice
September 13, 2011 at 11:18:14 AM
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I know for a fact that the 5T was checked for restrictors because I was standing right there. I think the only other non-UMSS ragular was Carson McCarl. The UMSS did a fine job in my opinion. The officials seem to do everything they can to put on a good show for the fans in as timely of a manner that they can. Things can't always be perfect, but they are doing a great job, especially considering this is only the 3rd season since its inception!



racerman123
September 13, 2011 at 03:06:58 PM
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Wow Joe, No need to get all worked up... I asked a question about the new cars..It only required yes or no..Sorry about you getting so riled up. Does anybody want to answer the orig question in this post. Not asked by me...I guess it would be better if no questions were asked...


grp
September 17, 2011 at 12:58:56 AM
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It's not bad to ask questions. Often times that leads to good discussions. In the first sixteen UMSS shows during the 2011 season, I honestly have not seen too many bad starts or restarts. Indeed there have been a few, but by and large I haven't seen much of a problem. Some drivers may see if differently. I'm sure the start/restart rule will get hashed over again during the off-season, as it seems to be one of the most talked about deals. You would think everybody could grasp it but apparently not. Ron will visit about a couple other issues at the drivers meeting this Saturday. Over all, we have a good group of drivers who have generally been doing a pretty decent job. On a few occasions, things will not always go smoothly.



ddca4
September 17, 2011 at 08:00:07 AM
Joined: 12/02/2004
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The question was the 14 car went to the scale and Brook didn't what is the rule?



mark meeks
September 17, 2011 at 10:43:36 AM
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12. WEIGHT: Weight rule is 1550 lbs., including the driver, at the conclusion of any race. Any bolt-on weight must be painted white and the car number must be stamped on the weight. The race track scale or UMSS scale is the only scale we will go by. Loss of any bolt-on weight during competition will disqualify the individual from that event. Bolt-on weight can only be added in the areas designated in the accompanying diagram. The weight must be securely attached with (4) 3/8" bolts and nuts or (2) 3/8" U-bolts and nuts and must remain in place during a race. It must not be moved or removed during a red flag situation. No gun-drilled, tubular or hollow bolts or studs. We reserve the right to disqualify any individual whose weight mounting procedure does not meet our specifications.




EyesOpen
September 17, 2011 at 11:13:21 AM
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Posted By: mark meeks on September 17 2011 at 10:43:36 AM

12. WEIGHT: Weight rule is 1550 lbs., including the driver, at the conclusion of any race. Any bolt-on weight must be painted white and the car number must be stamped on the weight. The race track scale or UMSS scale is the only scale we will go by. Loss of any bolt-on weight during competition will disqualify the individual from that event. Bolt-on weight can only be added in the areas designated in the accompanying diagram. The weight must be securely attached with (4) 3/8" bolts and nuts or (2) 3/8" U-bolts and nuts and must remain in place during a race. It must not be moved or removed during a red flag situation. No gun-drilled, tubular or hollow bolts or studs. We reserve the right to disqualify any individual whose weight mounting procedure does not meet our specifications.



So unless the car WITHOUT the driver was over 1550 lbs (which I seriously doubt that is the case) then the rules were broken, plain and simple.

 

 





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