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bt Express
May 20, 2011 at 03:44:16 PM
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This message was edited on May 20, 2011 at 03:48:59 PM by bt Express

People on this board love to knock the Pa Posse drivers, but one thing that is undisputable, is how many world class sprint car engine builders reside in Pa. Think about these names, Don Ott, Garrett, Rider, Cappetta, Morrison, Kriner, HP, HG and Hershey. These guys build some rockets and have been successful for a long time. I could be wrong, but I am not sure there is another state with as many great engine builders.




chilly
May 20, 2011 at 04:03:55 PM
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Good point. Rider & Morrison seem to be getting more popular. Do many guys still run Kriners?? I know that several drivers used to run them (Kenny Jacobs among others), but haven't heard of anybody running them lately.



bt Express
May 20, 2011 at 04:13:40 PM
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This message was edited on May 20, 2011 at 04:40:49 PM by bt Express

At one point Kriner was as big as Don Ott is today, but for some reason teams started to switch to other builders. However, they still are in business building engines but on a much smaller scale.




chilly
May 20, 2011 at 05:02:04 PM
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Yep... seems that popularity among engine builders is cyclical. Tons of winged guys in the 80s and 90s had a Gaerte under the hood... then Wesmar got big... then Kriner... then Kistler... and Ott... and now Rider, Garrett, and Morrison seem to be the hot new setup. I'm not Sigmund Freud, but 90% of switching engine builders seems to be psychological... same with switching chassis builders. If guys think it will make them faster, they'll probably be faster!



nancespeedequipment1n
May 20, 2011 at 05:23:39 PM
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This message was edited on May 20, 2011 at 05:24:23 PM by nancespeedequipment1n

Garrett does not build for anyone other then meyer does he?



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May 20, 2011 at 05:46:16 PM
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Back in the day I had a Brown that ran real strong.


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chilly
May 20, 2011 at 06:15:06 PM
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Posted By: nancespeedequipment1n on May 20 2011 at 05:23:39 PM

Garrett does not build for anyone other then meyer does he?



I believe Dollansky has Garrett power under the hood...



racerman123
May 20, 2011 at 06:22:44 PM
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What about Sammy???

AreoPackage
May 20, 2011 at 07:48:21 PM
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Posted By: racerman123 on May 20 2011 at 06:22:44 PM
What about Sammy???


Sammy Runs Parker Race Engines out of Iowa


Hambone28
May 20, 2011 at 08:09:22 PM
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yea Sammy now runs Parker's!!! he took a few Ott motors there( he said to have them reworked) I think Parker copied Ott's build!!! Whom on hear( other than Iowa) has heard of Parker before this??? I figure Sammy is getting his pockets lined from Parker!!

 

I know this Big Game Tree Team always used Ott's before Sammy!!1

 

Just my 2 cents worth!!!



SOROKACH35FAN
May 20, 2011 at 08:11:31 PM
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Posted By: nancespeedequipment1n on May 20 2011 at 05:23:39 PM

Garrett does not build for anyone other then meyer does he?



From what I understand. Garret can only freshen older motors he built. He's under contract with Meyers. That means only he gets new Garret motors



Hambone28
May 20, 2011 at 08:13:47 PM
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I also remember when Sammy ran Tom Rolfe's deal, they had everything stolen, Ott scrambled to get them motors to run( with out getting any money up front)!!1




bt Express
May 20, 2011 at 10:50:19 PM
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Posted By: chilly on May 20 2011 at 06:15:06 PM

I believe Dollansky has Garrett power under the hood...



Dollansky runs Morrison engines, like Kerry Madson and Lance Dewease. Brian Morrison used to work for Charlie Garrett and then branched off on his own when Charlie went with Meyers.



21wforacer
May 20, 2011 at 11:21:40 PM
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Posted By: Hambone28 on May 20 2011 at 08:09:22 PM

yea Sammy now runs Parker's!!! he took a few Ott motors there( he said to have them reworked) I think Parker copied Ott's build!!! Whom on hear( other than Iowa) has heard of Parker before this??? I figure Sammy is getting his pockets lined from Parker!!

 

I know this Big Game Tree Team always used Ott's before Sammy!!1

 

Just my 2 cents worth!!!



Of course Big Game used Otts before Sammy and look at how many races they one before they drop the PA junk motors and went with Sammys choice.

Seems to me all the heavy hitting outlaw drivers dont run anything that comes outta the state of PA.

 


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BeersFriends&410s
May 21, 2011 at 12:21:13 AM
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This message was edited on May 21, 2011 at 12:23:45 AM by BeersFriends&410s
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Posted By: 21wforacer on May 20 2011 at 11:21:40 PM

Of course Big Game used Otts before Sammy and look at how many races they one before they drop the PA junk motors and went with Sammys choice.

Seems to me all the heavy hitting outlaw drivers dont run anything that comes outta the state of PA.

 



are you really that stupid! wow.. heavy hitting outlaw drivers dont run anything that comes outta pa?? lol...


i can count four drivers out of the top 10 that run pa motors who are very competitive, and one is last years points champ! get a clue bud...




je5
May 21, 2011 at 02:59:42 AM
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I was in PA last week for the first time. The BEER HILL GANG IS AWESOME!!!!!! I will wear my shirts with pride back here in KNOXVILLE

Thanks for EVERYTHING

Jason

 



bt Express
May 21, 2011 at 06:06:26 AM
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This message was edited on May 21, 2011 at 06:07:13 AM by bt Express
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Posted By: 21wforacer on May 20 2011 at 11:21:40 PM

Of course Big Game used Otts before Sammy and look at how many races they one before they drop the PA junk motors and went with Sammys choice.

Seems to me all the heavy hitting outlaw drivers dont run anything that comes outta the state of PA.

 



Ha Ha, I guess you are new to sprint car racing and/or the WoO, because the majority of the Outlaw drivers have/are running an engine made in Pa over the last 10 years. I originally posted this topic, not to turn this into another pissing contest about the Posse vs the Outlaws, but to merely point out, that Pa does have some mightly fine sprint car engine builders. The facts are the facts. Ott, Kriner,Garrett, Rider, Cappetta and most recently Morrison all have had their engines run on the WoO circuit in recent years.



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May 21, 2011 at 07:43:10 AM
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I'm a bit surprised no one mentioned Ed Stauffer as a former PA engine builder. His motors won quite a few races, mostly with FFR.

On a separate note, (IMO) the surge in demand for Ott engines was in large part due to Rahmer's dominance. He certainly won a lot of race with those motors too.




L.O.G
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May 21, 2011 at 10:05:53 AM
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Posted By: 21wforacer on May 20 2011 at 11:21:40 PM

Of course Big Game used Otts before Sammy and look at how many races they one before they drop the PA junk motors and went with Sammys choice.

Seems to me all the heavy hitting outlaw drivers dont run anything that comes outta the state of PA.

 



Seems to me your ignorance of Sprint cars and the outlaws is overwhelming ,bout the only "heavy hitting " outlaws not running a PA motor are the ones still waiting to get on the list,,, your lack of any racing knowledge is almost funny to read as you continually try to insult everytime you post with no knowledge of what your commenting about ,

21wforacer
May 22, 2011 at 03:19:05 AM
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Posted By: L.O.G on May 21 2011 at 10:05:53 AM
Seems to me your ignorance of Sprint cars and the outlaws is overwhelming ,bout the only "heavy hitting " outlaws not running a PA motor are the ones still waiting to get on the list,,, your lack of any racing knowledge is almost funny to read as you continually try to insult everytime you post with no knowledge of what your commenting about ,


Funny. Shatz runs Shavers, Kinser well runs kinsers. and the Kahne cars run speedway motors out of indy. Sammy runs motors out Iowa. Sides is on a kinser program. Yep the heavy hitters arent running any junk out of the state of PA.


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I aim to hit the target.



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