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December 04, 2010 at
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Why was it switched? Only known #21 was Rookie Jason McMillen, Lee James was #15, Vern Kornburst #21 wasnt running
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December 04, 2010 at
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Might have been switched after that qualifying effort.
That was terrible.
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December 04, 2010 at
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That was just one time overall, The Car progresses Faster each time out, so wasnt indicative by any means just one Night.
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December 05, 2010 at
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Posted By: laudarevsonhunt on December 04 2010 at 06:44:19 PM
Might have been switched after that qualifying effort.
That was terrible.
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well you finally figured it out. instead of continuing to change the number, you changed the driver! lol.
the one you have now seems to be working out well. 
to indy and beyond!!
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December 05, 2010 at
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Not sure if I did next year might have new number with old driver. Pickin the lowest
number I've never seen on a NorCal sprint car. The dream lives on.
By 1988 Rodger Hamilton, McMillan, Beitler, Lee James? were all running 21 and Sills was
running a 21L car plus when the Outlaws came Shuman was 21X.
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December 05, 2010 at
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December 05, 2010 at
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Posted By: laudarevsonhunt on December 05 2010 at 09:42:05 PM
Not sure if I did next year might have new number with old driver. Pickin the lowest
number I've never seen on a NorCal sprint car. The dream lives on.
By 1988 Rodger Hamilton, McMillan, Beitler, Lee James? were all running 21 and Sills was
running a 21L car plus when the Outlaws came Shuman was 21X.
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1988 was Lee James for sure in the Torzilli and Forloine #21.
Didn't Ed Organ win the Baylands Track Championship under the same owners/number?
Ron
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December 06, 2010 at
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how soon we forget the car that made the number 21 popular.
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December 06, 2010 at
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In 1986 San Jose was still run by NASCAR. When racing there you had to you
had to pick your number from the numbers that were available. That's why you
don't see any duplicate numbers or letters after numbers.
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December 06, 2010 at
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Milan Garrett burned down a #21 on the front stretch during an outlaw show at Baylands as well?
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December 06, 2010 at
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Posted By: PetalumaPits on December 06 2010 at 05:55:33 PM
Milan Garrett burned down a #21 on the front stretch during an outlaw show at Baylands as well?
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Yes I believe you are correct. Mike Kinney purchased that chassis and did pretty good on a limited budget.
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December 06, 2010 at
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Posted By: laudarevsonhunt on December 06 2010 at 04:53:21 PM
In 1986 San Jose was still run by NASCAR. When racing there you had to you
had to pick your number from the numbers that were available. That's why you
don't see any duplicate numbers or letters after numbers.
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In 1986 they were still running 2x4's I believe. Any background on the 21 car? Builder? Just wondering.
Those were some good times in San Jose.
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December 07, 2010 at
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In 86 the cars had to have 2" x 4" square tubing from rear motor plate
to behind the fuel tank. The fuel tank also had to have a metal cover on it.
In 87 the rule was changed where as the square tubing only went from the rear
motor plate to behind the driver and the fuel cell cover was also eliminated & in
88 the square tubing was gone for good.
By 86 the common practice was to buy a sprint car frame and have a sheet metal
shop fabricate a 2" x 4" box out of thin metal to make it look like square tubing.
The 21 car in 86 was a 1984 Tognotti with the phony looking tubing added.
Hey Buzz how many cars that year had real 2" x 4" tubing ? And was anyone still
making frames with square tubing at that point.
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December 08, 2010 at
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Posted By: laudarevsonhunt on December 07 2010 at 02:48:30 PM
In 86 the cars had to have 2" x 4" square tubing from rear motor plate
to behind the fuel tank. The fuel tank also had to have a metal cover on it.
In 87 the rule was changed where as the square tubing only went from the rear
motor plate to behind the driver and the fuel cell cover was also eliminated & in
88 the square tubing was gone for good.
By 86 the common practice was to buy a sprint car frame and have a sheet metal
shop fabricate a 2" x 4" box out of thin metal to make it look like square tubing.
The 21 car in 86 was a 1984 Tognotti with the phony looking tubing added.
Hey Buzz how many cars that year had real 2" x 4" tubing ? And was anyone still
making frames with square tubing at that point.
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mike built cars with real 2x4 up until they did away with it.
to indy and beyond!!
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December 10, 2010 at
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Jimmy Boyd won the first Outlaw race at Devil's Bowl in the 21. of oh, damn, i just forgot his name. and no, i havn't been drinking.
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Posted By: N2-410S on December 10 2010 at 09:26:27 PM
Jimmy Boyd won the first Outlaw race at Devil's Bowl in the 21. of oh, damn, i just forgot his name. and no, i havn't been drinking.
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Woodruff Brothers primarily wrenched by hall of famer Kenny Woodruff.
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