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Topic: what happened to sooner sprints at creek county july31.more bs?
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July 03, 2010 at
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I think I'll spend my money at the 3 day 305 show at Liberal Kansas aug 1,2,3
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July 04, 2010 at
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We would love to have you. See ya. LETS GO RACIN!!
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July 04, 2010 at
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oh they switched the race to missouri.shove the race up your ass Hahn.
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July 04, 2010 at
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Just a thought, maybe you should know why things are done before you comment on them......
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July 04, 2010 at
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Posted By: modified156 on July 04 2010 at 02:36:25 AM
oh they switched the race to missouri.shove the race up your ass Hahn.
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I think you should thank the promoter not Hahn
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July 05, 2010 at
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mod156 - have you been to Creek County this year?
How much would could a wouldchuck chuck if a
wouldchuck could chuck would
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July 05, 2010 at
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wheres all the Lucas Oil money at Emmett?
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July 05, 2010 at
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I'll take that as a no. If you had attended events there this year - you would understand why they cancelled their ascs shows.
The bs is not with ascs - the bs is that a first year track promoter completely reconfigured a track before he had EVER run even a single race on it. I have attended 5 events there this season - and only 1 was any good at all. When a good, racy surface is an anomaly rather than the norm - it does start creating doubts. We witnessed it repeatedly - if you go into turn 1 more than 6 feet off the bottom - you are sliding all the way to the wall. The elimination of any real banking (due to a hot pit for the stock car demo derby's they feature there every week) - combined with a terrible track prep almost every time out (dust storms in hot laps) has made open wheel racing at tha track almost tragic. It was always very good - and to so obviously see how their promoter has killed it - it is tragic. It was this way when I saw their opener (worst show of all time) - it was also this way with ascs, ascs2 micros, ascs2 midgets, and even the champ sprints when they ran with the micros. After seeing those 5 shows - its definitely the slowest sprint car track I have ever seen. It's just junk.
I am sure there were many aspects to the decision, but the most obvious I would think is that the races would just be better elsewhere.
OCRS (historically a tulsa area series) - cancelled their show(s) there - do you have an opinion on that as well? or do they get a pass because you don't have personal grudge with them? I don't know their reasons for not running - but I saw enough in the 5 shows I have witnessed there to clearly see sprint car racing at that track is not CONSISTENTLY good. As a fan - I will grimace every time I drive by exit 211 - and then smile as I get more distance between me and it on my way to Port City.
But instead of anything substantive - all you can come up with is rubbish about the title sponsor of ascs? How about enlightening us and let us know - what exactly does any of that have to do with this? What does Lucas Oil sponsor money have to do with ASCS' decision on whether or not to run a crap track under a crap promoter?
How much would could a wouldchuck chuck if a
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July 05, 2010 at
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This message was edited on
July 06, 2010 at
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my understanding it was a disagreement between Hahn and the promoter. The details on the disagreement I have no clue about.
"The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands
in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he
stands at times of challenge and controversy."
Martin Luther King, Jr.
Erich Petersen
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July 06, 2010 at
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Your right Erich. It's the promoter,not the track.
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July 06, 2010 at
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I'm sorry about my comments,I'm on Lexapro.I'll be at Lawton Saturday.
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July 06, 2010 at
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has nothing to do with the track itself.
David Smith Jr.
www.oklahomatidbits.com
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July 06, 2010 at
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Reply to:
Posted By: OKCFan12 on July 05 2010 at 06:57:47 PM
I'll take that as a no. If you had attended events there this year - you would understand why they cancelled their ascs shows.
The bs is not with ascs - the bs is that a first year track promoter completely reconfigured a track before he had EVER run even a single race on it. I have attended 5 events there this season - and only 1 was any good at all. When a good, racy surface is an anomaly rather than the norm - it does start creating doubts. We witnessed it repeatedly - if you go into turn 1 more than 6 feet off the bottom - you are sliding all the way to the wall. The elimination of any real banking (due to a hot pit for the stock car demo derby's they feature there every week) - combined with a terrible track prep almost every time out (dust storms in hot laps) has made open wheel racing at tha track almost tragic. It was always very good - and to so obviously see how their promoter has killed it - it is tragic. It was this way when I saw their opener (worst show of all time) - it was also this way with ascs, ascs2 micros, ascs2 midgets, and even the champ sprints when they ran with the micros. After seeing those 5 shows - its definitely the slowest sprint car track I have ever seen. It's just junk.
I am sure there were many aspects to the decision, but the most obvious I would think is that the races would just be better elsewhere.
OCRS (historically a tulsa area series) - cancelled their show(s) there - do you have an opinion on that as well? or do they get a pass because you don't have personal grudge with them? I don't know their reasons for not running - but I saw enough in the 5 shows I have witnessed there to clearly see sprint car racing at that track is not CONSISTENTLY good. As a fan - I will grimace every time I drive by exit 211 - and then smile as I get more distance between me and it on my way to Port City.
But instead of anything substantive - all you can come up with is rubbish about the title sponsor of ascs? How about enlightening us and let us know - what exactly does any of that have to do with this? What does Lucas Oil sponsor money have to do with ASCS' decision on whether or not to run a crap track under a crap promoter?
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Correction......
OCRS did NOT cancel the show on June 12th with Creek County Speedway. CCS had the ASCS-2 show the night before and it was determined that the OCRS race would come off the schedule per request of the promoter and a rescheduled date would be addressed. At this time, a new date hasn't been determined and OCRS is waiting for the track to make a decision.
John Lemon
OCRS
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