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ASCS rules will apply for the April 27th and April 28th Sprint Car show at Kopellah Speedway and Cedar Lake Speedway. However, the tire rule will be modified from the standard ASCS rules. Kopellah and Cedar Lake will allow the SP2, SP3, or ASCS Medium for the right rear.

Restrictors needed to measure 2.1 inches in diameter for at least three inches of their length.Or ASCS intake gaskets will be needed if you don't have ASCS heads.

Who and how many are expected to show for these early season sprint races?

What is the payout?

I don't have the payoffs in front of me, but they are aleast 1000.00 to win, 180.00 to start

How many cars are going to be there? Who the hell know's, not trying to be an ass, but that's like predicting what the temp will be that night. I gave up on trying to predict how many cars will be at a certain place. All I can say is, if you own a 360 sprintcar, the Kopellah and Cedar Lake races along with any of the ASCS NP races is the place to be around this part of the state, or you can go and run IMCA.

Thanks I will go and run IMCA and everyone is welcome to join me on all the fun we have racing IMCA.

From what I seen in Dallas the 2 car better stick to IMCA.

So what do they pay in IMCA 300 to win 50 to start

Chuck its 300.00 to win , get your motor bought, and they tell you what gear you have to run. IMCA is the best thing around.

No its actually $500 to win and $100 to start, plus the contingency program is awesome I recieved over $1,000 in certificates for racing. As far as getting your engine claimed that doesn't exist any more it hasn't for a few years now the only claim rule we have is a $800 head claim that has not been enforced only by one person in the past two years. The gear rule is awesome it tightens the pack up a great deal and makes it possible for a guy like me to win a feature and puts on a better show for the fans. As far as "IMCA being the best thing around" it is for me but everyone has a different dollar amount to go racing on and for you guys more power to you if you can run the ASCS tour or Kopella or Cedar Lake, I would be right there with you if I had a bigger budget. However, I will be racing the old junker from last year its that or stay at home and I just can't do that. The last I heard about the number 2 crew was that they aren't racing Arlington this year, they had a little engine in down in Texas and just went to have fun, what was the start money for that event I wonder, I beleive they will be doing local ASCS races and running Jackson.

Best of luck to everyone in 2007,

Yours truly Brett Allen #00

$500 to win??? I was told that it was $400 unless there was like 100 cars or something?

I guess I would like that gear rule, some motors run better with deeper or higher gears, sounds to much like nascar, but if you guy's are ok with that, then that's good. good luck this year.

Correct me if I'm wrong but haven't some of the IMCA cars come and run with you guys at Kopellah? Motor isn't as important there.

Stan Meissner

Yes there have been cars running IMCA motors that have won and have run very good at Kopellah

56 Sprint clearly you were not at the rules meeting; don't you know the majic number was 56 cars you silly boy,

Chuck you dont understand the whole concept of the gear rule; we don't race nascar were all dirt racers why can't we all get along together. The gear rule eliminates people from turning 8,000 rpm and people from spending all kinds of money to hook it up and be gone, we turn any where from 7,000-7,600 rpm now and its great racing, not near as much boring follow the leader racing action. If it weren't for the rules that IMCA has I would not be racing I just could not afford it with my 95 American Challenger that has been crashed many times before I got it, it is now two chassis welded together to make one. I still am going to have fun racing my nascar dirt sprint car wana be thing.

how many sprint cars run imca? and how many tracks run imca sprint cars every weekend?

Whenever I have watched them it's been around 18-20 give or take a couple. They run at Arlington and Redwood but I'm not an authority as I only have been to Arlington a couple of times the past few years. The IMCA will be racing at Owatonna during a couple of their specials this year so I'll see them several times.

Probably the most frequent point that is made whenever there's any debate on this sort of thing is how much a particular track or series pays to win. I know the winner's share isn't all there is to it, they have to pay through the field as well, but I get a laugh out of these kinds of debates. There's only one winner and often times it seems that the ones complaining because of the winner's share of the purse either have never won or seldom get into victory lane. Everyone wants to win, everyone loses money the minute they get into racing and the meter just keeps on ticking as long as you're involved. Does a $1,000 winner's share of the purse even cover fuel for the hauler, tires and associated expenses running the car as well as motel rooms, meals and entry fees? In other words, a guy has to win to break even which is enough pressure let alone getting to the track and finding out that Chuck Swenson, Jake Peters, Scott Winters, Jerry Richert Jr. and all those drivers have signed in. That means even if you're fast you've got your work cut out for you to make that $1,000 so you can break even.

IMCA is a good option for some of the guys who want to get into Sprints on a budget. There's a loyal group that has been running with them and they kind of just keep plugging along in the background. On the other hand there's the ASCS type cars where they pay $1,000 or more to win, the cars can run more of the big shows but you've got to deal with the competition, travel and all those other things. A few of the former IMCA drivers have come out of there and done pretty well the most recent example being Lindquist. So I think that the IMCA has their niche up here but some guys want to run the ASCS type deal or even move up to 410's with IRA, Knoxville or whatever. If a short track like Kopellah offers an IMCA driver a chance to try something different that would be a neat deal. A few of them have ran with the open 360's and decided they like the variety of tracks that the other series runs. It's like two separate types of Sprint Car racing but I don't think it hurts, it just increases interest. Kind of like the Super Stocks and Crate Late Models for aspiring Late Model drivers or the B Mods as a stepping stone to the A Mods. I think it's good that we have the Arlington and Redwood programs. It's not for everybody but for some it's a good deal.

Stan Meissner

If any of the IMCA drivers decide to venture forth out of their home track comfort zone and race at Kopellah, I don't think that they will be at any horsepower disadvantage on that tight little 1/4 mile. This is a handling track, not a horsepower track.

But to each his own. We all know what we can best afford to do. And that's why we're parked again this season!

Ideally there are plenty of cars for both. Instead of people arguing which is better, go find a couple of modified drivers who run 10th and talk them into spending that money to run weekends at Arlington and Redwood or hit the local Twin Cities angle with Kopellah and Cedar Lake. I for one really appreciate Kopellah and Cedar Lake putting on these shows. There is a nice group of tracks within 1.5 hours of the cities that run races and it is much appreciated by us locals. This includes Brian's group, Brainerd, and the others.

I'm not arguing about which is better. We enjoyed racing our Sprint at both Arlington & with WISSOTA.

As long as you can make the feature, the money is better with Chuck's shows or with the ASCS. The drivers at Arlington are probably more respectful of each other than at anywhere else we raced & the track prep at Arlington was second to none.

We really enjoyed the variety of tracks that WISSOTA/MSCS/ASCS offered as opposed to running a weekly show. I think if the IMCA drivers venture off the reservation a bit, that they will enjoy that variety too.

For me Cedar Lake and Kopellah are easy to get to. Arlington is an hour further and I have to go through the Metro to get there. The old Ranger don't have air otherwise I'd go to Arlington more often.

Stan Meissner