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Anyone Wisconsin regulars have any thoughts if this will work? Would teams sign on to running the same track each week when you have the IRA and MSA running weekly.

Press Release

Beaver Dam Raceway (formerly Charter Raceway Park) has announced that it would like to explore the possibility of adding a sprint car racing to its successful regular Saturday evening program starting in 2010. The sprint car division would share top billing with the very popular modified division. A final determination of this possible addition would be made by January 31st.

This new class will have a very unique format in that both 410 and 360 sprint cars will be invited to compete in this division. A handicap system will be instituted to attempt to equalize the horsepower differences. Those differences will be equalized by tire compounds, and weight, as well as other areas being considered by the Raceway Park staff and management.

Another unique twist is that the field will be limited to 24 drivers who will sign a yearly performance agreement. This will ensure that all drivers will be awarded feature money each night, as well as participating in a lucrative year end bonus fund sponsored by Goodyear. This limitation will also help meet curfews imposed on the track.

All drivers, or car owners, interested may call Carolyn Mueller at 920.382.7858 or Jerry Priesgen 920.382.4515 for more information, or attend an informational meeting held at The Golf Club at Camelot in Lomira on Monday, January 11th at 7:00pm.

This would be awesome! We don't get to see much sprint car racing in this area. I hope teams want it too.

are you serious? Charter has 4 or 5 sprint car races every year, including the WoO's. Down the road 2 miles you've got another 4 sprint car races. in a 50 mile radius there are probably 20 sprint car races each year.

and another point is, these are not gonna be top level teams.

Let me see!

You want to lock up 24 cars on Saturday nights so they can't compete with IRA or MSA. You want them to sign a contract? come on!!!!!!!

You want these 24 cars to race for a racer funded lucrative goodyear point fund.

There is no way to equalize the horsepower between a IRA and an MSA engine.

So tell me just what is it YOU Beaver Dam raceway are going to do for sprint car racing?

If you are even going to think about having a weekly show do it the right way: pay a decent purse (im not saying a IRA purse) treat everyone fair, don't rape people at the pit window or the grandstand window. Curfew will not be a problem if you do YOUR track prep BEFORE the races start not DURING the racing program. Pay say like a 200 dollar bonus to the highest finishing MSA car.

Personally you have 2 or 3 IRA shows plus a Outlaw show each year, I hope they stick it up your ass and go race at the real race track about 3 miles to the east. That would make for what 7 or 8 410 races at a real race track! now that would be heaven!

While I agree with most of what you say. Beaver Dam is twice the facility as that track three miles to the east. If you like very fast slot cars, go to dodge! May the person with the deepest pockets win. At charter there are two grooves most of the time. Let it get good and slick then we will see who does not have a hammer for a right foot. Also when it gets good and slick, with the Goodyears that are supposed to unhook the cars, a MSA car could win. It would be rare but could happen. I really do not think this will help 410 or 360 racing in the area. These promoters need to work together and make 2/3 day shows not all three wanting the same day. I wish someone would start running sundays so I don't have to go to Kokomo if I want to go somewhere. thanks

I personally think that this is doomed to fail, but I will play along. How is this performance agreement going to be worded. If I decide in the middle of the year to go run IRA, are you going to sue me for breaking this agreement? I have bad luck and pop my two engines in the first half of the season and have to sit out for the rest of the year, are you going to sue me for breaking this agreement? Do I get a signing bonus for signing this agreement? What would be my reasons to sign this agreement?

Why anyone in this area would be needing to do something on Sunday is beyond me. Angell Park was the best thing around. I absolutely loved that place.

Angell Park is a nice place I just don't have a midget.

Do not forget there was talk of Wilmot running more 410 sprintcar shows this year also. There are alot of sprintcars in Wisconsin but I do not think enough for all these tracks and clubs. As far as which track is better for watching a competitive race it is Charter for sure.

If Wilmot runs more shows great. Run a weekly 410 show, I prefer sunday so it does not cut into other shows. You may see a few of the msa show and there are always the wilmot cars that will not run anywhere else.

I guess I would be curious what purse they would be offering for this weekly show. The other thing is why limit the field to 24 guys just run it as a weekly show. I agree with the comment on what happens to the guy who blows a motor or junks a car do they replace that starting spot?

Are there any other WI tracks that run sprint cars weekly other than Manitowoc and Plymouth (MSA)?

I must be missing something here. You have a track that is trying to put back together a weekly sprint car program and you whine.....What the hell is wrong with some of you? You complain about the lack of racing and when you have someone to try and create some you piss and moan like a three year old. Maybe some of you should put down your beer and the bong so you can think straight.

Sounds like they are throwing some ideas out there and rather than be supportive or helpful you'd rather talk trash. I often wonder why anyone would want to be a promoter or owner.

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are you frickin' serious. Charter is the most one grooved track i've ever seen. If you want to see passing, that is the absolute last track i would recommend.

also, who the hell wants to watch 360's if you are into Outlaw type sprint car racing. 360's are hard for me to watch.

Your the guy that just likes to watch the 5 or so guys in the area with the big dollars or anybody "good" Travelers. Most of the time you whine about the IRA, WOS, MSA . I just like being at the track as much as possible. The more shows the better. If I could race 3 times a week and not change the car over between different rules it would be great!!!!!

The idiots of Charter or whatever they want to call it now screwed up about 8 years ago when they had weekly 360 races. They had about 40 360's a week, plus 3 other classes, which included modifieds (about another 40 cars). They had the best thing going in the area and let it go. Now the track is the slickest piece of junk in WI and many other tracks have caught or past the track in prep and raciness. Now the facilities are very nice, but after that, it's still a turd.

Plymouth, Wilmot, Manitowoc, Oshkosh, Dodge County..... the list goes on.... will continue to outpreform this track, plain and simple. This proposal is laughable, if it makes it for a year there will be WW3 at all the sprint car tracks in the eastern WI, each track will do this same thing and the fan will end up taking it up the rear.

Big Daddy E

strange wings the MSA 360s may not have the speed IRA has. but the 360s have 10 to 12 cars that can win any givin night IRA maybe 5 or 6 cars. I am not putting IRA down. just saying the MSA 360s are very competitive. Now for Beaver Dam. your idea i don't think will work. first fix the track! move the back stretch wall so cars are not bouncing of of it when they come out of #2. give it more than 1 grove. If you are the same owners as last year tell the ticket booth people to stop lying to the fans.I have been lied to twice at your track. that is why I will not visit your track again. fix the problems then try sprint car racing.

69bigbad

I also would like to see more sprint car racing in the area. The first thing that comes to mind in this situation is the arrangement that Attica and Freemont Ohio have. They both race the same group of cars every weekend, (on different nights) and accumulate points based on finishes from both tracks. I see no reason why the tracks could not work together in order to make this happen. We all like to see good racing and this would also allow people from the areas that the tracks are located in to not have to travel far to see some sprint racing. I can invision alot of good things happening with something like this but lets face it, it can only happen with the coordintion of the track owners and the support of the fans, (and I really don't see a problem with the fans). These are only my thoughts and I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything, but I see other venues trying to work together to make things work for the car owners, track owners and fans. This would also be a good outlet for used equiptment from the travelers that want to "freshen up".

Concerning the issue of running the 360's and 410's together, I don't think this would be the direction to go. It would cost the car owners more money to try and make a car legal and this sport is trying to keep the expenses down.

I know someone will "ream me" for my statements but like I said these are only my thoughts and I guess unless the track owners ask me for help (LOL) they will continue to be just that, my thoughts.

For the folks at Beaver Dam. Rumor has it is that the MSA is negotiating with Francis Creek(141 speedway) witch is now dirt. to run on wednesday nights. How many nights a week do these guys and girls want to run ? or are able to run ?another thing escanaba michigan wants to reopen escanaba speedway and run sprint cars. maybe start a new class of sprints. maybe the modified drivers can cash in thier junk for sprints! Maybe start a class of MRA style non wing modifieds, there are allot of old MRA style modified chassis people can get for free. run MSA engine rules to keep costs down.

69bigbad

Bring back the MRA modifeds. Or non wing sprintcars would be cool!

What about Husets?

I don't think you could ever run MSA 360 & 410 cars together and expect to level that field with changing track conditions. I say bring back some sort of non wing cars, either non wing sprints or non wing MRA/ EWSCA style cars. A non wing MSA style car like they run sometimes at Sun Prarie would probably be an interesting & cheap car setup scenario.