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we've been over this many times on this board,it seems to depend on who you are.

ROB

I'm glad you enjoyed the racing Sunday night! Should have seen the racing in the seventies and before the wings! That was a race a track! Not what they gave us this weekend.

Now the that poor kid in the 50X, he was told from the person where the car came from (could you tell?) that not to run that SMALL TANK! I heard from the man from USAC that on the first red one can filled up their tank! Well what did they do! They chose not to fill her up!

Now for the midget. The tire was flat during the red, right? They could have replaced it then. Did they replace it? NO! If after they replaced it where does he start then! Yes, at the end of the longest single file line! Are they sorry for they mistakes? Were both were poor choices? The show must move on!

They should have filled up that small tank! The midget should have replaced that tire.

Did you notice what sprint car added fuel Sunday night at the first or second red?

Joe

Cocker. I have been going to the track since the early seventies. Yes I agree the 50X should have dumped some fuel on the open red. No question in my mind what so ever. The question is because they messed up and caused a yellow which I believe was there first yellow why were they not given 3 laps to top it off. Was this not the rule when N.A.R.C. was alive? Same goes for Golobic. Yes they did try to plug the tire during the red hoping it would hold. To me they gambled and came up short. But that it was, a gamble. The gamble being try to plug the tire and if that dose not work come in and change it out. I don't think the crews for both teams understood the rules when they where both refused entry back on the track. Then again don't try to Huck a fuel jug at an official. That can't help matters. Just my two cents and trying to understand USAC rules.

Most of you guy's have seen this, but for those that havn't, get the kids out of the room.

This is Jack Hewitt "trying to understand USAC rules".

Half the lies they tell about me aren't true. 

WOW!

Talk about beeing a little on edge.

That has to be the single greatest interview I have ever heard in my life!

So are you saying that USAC may be biased in there opinion of who gets three laps and who gets 0? LOL.

all I'm saying is there seems to be no consistant enforcement of the rule(whatever the rule is) be it USAC,GSC WoO or whom ever.

ROB

And ROB, if you get stopped by a motorcycle cop in Temecula, for consistent enforcement, tell him your son in law works at the Harley dealership............ Before he writes the ticket. (inside joke)

Mike Brown

Remember when he said all that his eye's are still rolling along with his brain. It's after that tumble you see at the end of the Video.

I don't remember who was USAC's president at the time they were talking about putting wings on USAC's National series cars, but I do remember Jack saying "no way, we're just going to have to send him back to California, where he came from". He was dead serious.

I was there when the announcer asked him about a rough track over in Yuma, on a Sunday day race after a rain out the night before. " Oh, heck, I've been on rougher tracks than this, the trick is to go fast enough so you just fly over the holes". He seemed dead serious then too.

Man I miss Manzy.

Kenny

Half the lies they tell about me aren't true. 

I can't ever remember sitting in the stands and hearing anyone say, fan or announcer, during a USAC show... OK, he's got two laps to get a tire on and back out on the track. I have heard, "there getting lined up, he'd better hurry" plenty though.

Half the lies they tell about me aren't true. 

Bigfish

Now dont get upset just askin a question . Have you ever been to a usac pit meeting ? I have heard several times that you will be givin 3 laps to get the tire changed and get back on the track . Sometimes the rule is not always followed by usac but they do tell the drivers and crews that you have 3 laps to do repairs ect. Turn4rob said it best there is no consistant enforcement of the rule .

Joe Clifton

Ok here is just my own opinion and a little about what I understand about USAC/CRA. Granted I could be wrong.

The rules allow you to re-fuel a car with a driver seated in the car on a open red. If you re-fuel the car in the work area under a yellow, the drive must unbuckle. I am not sure why that is, if they think a spark from a car circling the track will start a fire or what. Not saying I understand it, but it is there rule. But hitting an offical over the head with an empty fuel jug is looked down upon, wherever you run.

As for Swindell, yes he brought out the yellow, but he didnt stop on the track there for he retained his spot, regardless of missing parts. That is the way there rule reads. I dont like the whinning little brat either, but rules are rules. I could not find a part about disqualification for running without a nerf bar, I know VRA has a disqualification, but I dont think USAC does.

We seem to jump around a lot and run with different clubs, one thing that I recommend to anyone running with a new club is that the read the rules before you get to the track, understand what you are working with, and if they can't show you it in writing in the rule book, stick to your guns.

Here is Usac's 109 pages

http://www.usacracing.com/assets/files/allseries/rulebook/2009USACRULEBOOK.pdf

O.K.

Rules are rules, but it does not seem right that any driver can better their position by depositing something on the track and causing a yellow flag.

Man I hope Super Ricky does'nt find out about this.

He will start carrying something to throw on the track instead of stoping on the track when he needs a yellow.

I agree that the rule about how many laps given to a car to be fixed is not the same every time and something should be done to change that...i just don't get why it is so hard it is to be consistent....with that said i want to give props to the young Shane Golobic(as i haven't seen anyone else mention it)who was very fast and had a shot at the win both nights in the midget had it not been for some bad luck. (flat tire and blown rear end running 2nd)...as well as 5th and an 8th in the sprint car..

From what I found out is the car needs to start with it only! Nerf. Doesn't need to finish with it. Just my opinion ! Yes, the 92 Moose, did add fuel on the first red on the track Sunday nights main. For me the cars look so much better with the larger tanks! Either stick the tank, fuel up, don't get mad. If you loose your muffler you get that colored flag. I remember the King of the Outlaws winning the Race of the Gold Cups and reinstalled his muffler. It was hanging by the safety wire. With his gloved hand.

Remember Smoke last year at the IRP? They were not fast enough on tire change. He pushed the USAC person and was fined. So I think USAC doesn't like tire changes. You start in the back so why not have changed it then. Monday quarter backing.

Joe

Nope... I was just saying that I don't remember it being said (by fans) or announced ( that would be the announcer LOL) how many laps they had to change a tire. Maybe because it's so inconsistent it just looks like you had better be back on the track, or being pushed off when they are closing up, or tough luck... Also there's a big differance in how long of time that might be, depending on the size of the track, and where it happened on it.

Kenny

Half the lies they tell about me aren't true. 

"The rules allow you to re-fuel a car with a driver seated in the car on a open red. If you re-fuel the car in the work area under a yellow, the drive must unbuckle. I am not sure why that is"

I would think it's because of the frantic hurry up under a yellow, with more of a likelihood of a spill on a hot exhaust or brake?.. just a guess.

Half the lies they tell about me aren't true. 

Way to go BRUCIE!!!!! Congrats to the Spencer family......

Congratulations to Josh Ford!

"Ralphie, Senor, muchas gracias por una mas cerveza"  -
Scott Daloisio @ the PAS