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My opinion on the whole thing, is that no matter who you are, If your car doesnt follow the rule book to a T then you should be DQ"ed. Any nobody should be able to over rule it. But we all know we dont live in a perfect world, and there will always be favorites, im a huge steve smith fan have been for a long time, i dont know what happened friday night during the teardown, so i wont comment on that,

David Foley

"Just let me make it to the Dirt Track.. Truck then u 
can break down!!!"

The questions I have is, why is this all big, earthshaking news when it is darn near the end of the season and this same thing with protest and "cheating" in the pro stock class always comes up this time of year. At least it has the past five years that I can think of. When your down to five point races or less at the end of the season, you can sure bet that somebody in the pro stock class is going to protest somebody. And it usually includes just three of four cars/drivers/owners. I really haven't sat and talked with you alls favorite modified driver about it (Stanley Reed) but I would almost bet that is why he turned the pro stock wheel over to his son as he was tired of the B.S. in that division. Not a fact but all points would lead that direction.

Guys and gals, this rule thing doesn't pertain soley at SFS but other tracks as well. If you read other posts or go to other established forums that have been around and concentrated on that one area, there are problems and questions all the time pertaining to rules and protests. And for some reason it always seems to happen this time of year.

Just for gits and shiggles, all tracks should have that one regular Friday or Saturday night, at the end of the year, and just have one hell of an open, no rules race. All sprint cars (super sprint and champ sprint) would compete against each other, all modifieds (modifieds, limited modifieds, sport modifieds) would compete against each other, all street stock, factory stock, hobby stock, etc. would compete against each other and all pro stocks with no rules, anything goes.

And as far as Steve Smith is concerned, it does seem that more protests/questions have come with his driving the pro stock then it does when he drives his own modified. I think he has been tapped when running his modified but who hasn't in the modified division.

David Smith Jr.
www.oklahomatidbits.com

Sometimes you just sit back and read all the posts and you still say"wow".

WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

winners dont cry when they lose , they go back to the 
drawing board and come back for round 2 !

It is not me this time lol. Just letting everyone know.

"The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands 
in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he 
stands at times of challenge and controversy." 
Martin Luther King, Jr. 

Erich Petersen 

Same old song, different singer. Bob you told us Steve was getting to be an old wore out has been. Well thank you for renewing his will to win!!!! Boy needed a kick in the pants.

As for the protest....well I think the decision says it all. Steve cant fart without getting penalized for something so If you really want to believe that he is not legal put your money up again next week, we are running on a shoe string budget and the extra money is a great help. Thanks again to all those that contributed last week.

Thanks to the select few of you for keeping our racing year so normal, we were getting bored.

Erin Smith

Wife.

Really kinda funny isn't it. David is right about some things. I know Woody has told me before that he hope Lanny kills this class. I think they are sick and tired of the BS just like Stanley.

I have one question. Did Jared Hicks get protested at the beginning of the season when he won 4 in a row? If not, why? Didn't you boys think he was cheating? Hell he was the only guy winning. I, myself said they just had their shit together at the beginning of the season. I honestly don't remember if he was protested or not.

Oh, I just thought you should know that in another thread Steve congratulated and appologized to the 5 team for getting into him during the feature.

yeah Huset's used (may still) always have a open rules race at the end of the year appropriately titled "Cheater's Day" lol.

As for the annual late season protests and whining.....I think it's because annually Mark Brill's peter is bruised by mid august. LMAO.

Thats a joke btw - just thought it would sound funny. I don't really know the answer - there are some pretty strong opinions in this thread though.

How much would could a wouldchuck chuck if a 
wouldchuck could chuck would

Al; after kindergarten,in first grade,all Okc public schools teach"he who cheats the bestest wins the mostest"

Steve Moyer CKS Fabrication & Welding                  
CKS Chassis                                            
I want my last words to be "damn this is fun"

I have always done my very best to go by the rules as I expect everyone else to. If I have ever had a question about what was legal or illegal I have checked the rules. It costs too much money and time to run a race team to even take a chance on being illegal. If you want to push the bar far enough to take a chance on being disqualified why bother racing? You build the best (legal) car that you can and leave the rest up to skill. And a driver is foolish if they don't know what parts are in the car they're driving. If the car is found to be illegal and disqualified, then he's wasted his time and gets a bad reputation. Who needs that when you can do it the right way and still do well. It comes down to a lot of skill and a lot of luck. You can have everything perfect on a car, drive like there's no tomorrow, but you can't control the actions of others. So it's up to you to do the right thing and compete fairly. If I had to cheat to win, I wouldn't feel very good about myself.

To those who are insinuating that someone had another person protest the 14 car, it was the owner of the 82 car that protested. If you knew the owner of the 82 car, you would know that he doesn't need someone else to do his dirty work for him. That's not in his character.

I don't know this guy and have never saw him race, but it seems that when ever someone win's alot everyone says he or she is cheating. I don't know if he is or not. He could be just one great driver with good equipment. Don't know you Steve but congrats on a awesome season

JIMMY MINTER 'AKA'dirtrack234                  
Yesterday 
is history, 
tomorrow is a mystery, and today is a gift. That is 
why they call it the present.

my question is if the chassis was so illegal and the a frames were from outer space, its kinda odd that some of the fastest guys there were on the stage looking at it...the 82 has been blistering fast so i am sure they know what a gm lower A looks like...the rule book says flat tappet lifters, an engine builder was on stage and all the officials too....they seen the lifters...they seen the car...he won the race yeah, but look at all the fast guys that did not finish the race? hell it was like a sunday drive when the field goes dnf like that....i just think this whole deal has been thrown way out in left field..just my opinon...its late in the year, guys are thinkin about points, if steve had been found illegal and lost his points look at what the points race would have been like? either a here or zero...just a fan with an opinion....

Lurking......but I will drop a few paragraphs.

What I think is being missed here is a very valuable insight and lesson for everyone, especially track promoters.

It doesn't matter one bit whether the #14 is running illegal or otherwise, its the over-all perception that he might be. When you further agitate the perception by possibly letting a rule or two slide because the infraction is minor in the promoters View of the Big Picture,...well he just tossed fuel on the fire.

To have a healthy car count each week and a show the fans will talk about, its the promoters responsibility; if not his duty, to keep the playing field level. Note I did not say " Try to keep it level", I said " KEEP IT LEVEL".

Otherwise you have follow the leader A mains with predictable winners in each class.

Its the possibility that anyone can win and side by side battles that keep the lines forming at the gates. Its that same possibility with drivers who really think they have a shot each week at a A-main win.

After many decades of racing, the sport has undeniably learn-ed that there are few if any exceptions to the rule book. Racing is one of the few sports left where rules are enforced and exceptions are non-existent.

Keep the rule book handy, support the Race-Tech findings and always , repeat: always keep the promoter out of the final decisions on tech and completely out of the Tech Area.

Perception is 99 % of reality to the individual.

MM

Fight to win on the Track, not in the parking lot! I 
just love the " Ur # 1. wave " from fellow racers as 
we head home to our other lives !

The first Mad Mike post I've ever totally agreed with. Amazing!