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ok yes donny is a pretty good driver....but if kraig does have the same shit as donny how come a good percentage of the time i was at a woO event kraigs motors always ran like shit and oh suprise donnys were running great hmmm think bout that have you ever even been to a woo event retard.....and also if kraig has the same shit and so called i mean kraig is not to bad of a driver at all coming from daddy steve you gotta learn and know some shit bout racing and he has learnd on the go but meyers beats him but its the same stuff and can't catch donny?? lil weird you can't even compare the two teams donnys shit is way better than kraigs is

Hey dumbass, know how to read? They don't have then same "stuff"!! Different engine and chassis!! Most importantly - DIFFERENT DRIVER!!!! Read and save the rest of us from repeated thoughts and questions we've seen multiple times already!!!!

Saw the DUDE just about do it against most of the allstars, outlaws, and posse a couple years ago at the front row challenge. its possible.

haha, I gotta laugh at this one. You got me, I am a retard and I have never been to a world of outlaw race in my entire life. Damn, I glad somebody as smart as you has exposed my lie. I know nothing about sprint car racing. One thing I can say is I saw Donny's first race at Husets and when he finished second in his heat (behind the DUDE) the first time at that track and as hard as it is to wheel a sprint car around that place, I knew the kid was something special. Now he is just proving the thoughts I had back then were right. I forgot to add, Donny finished 4th that night at Husets.

OK let's say there was a claim rule.......

Who is gonna do the cowardly act? NOBODY that's who! This ain't IMCA this is BIG BUCK sprint car racing and these are big buck owners. NOBODY's gonna want something somebody else has had.

Plus I'm betting the 15 cars motors aren't 40k I'm thinking twice that after it's all said and done.

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All of this yelling at WoO14 about cost...

His inital post isn't about cost; if you read it carefully, you'll see that he's already conceded that, in 2009, Donnie will hand his boy Jason Meyers(WoO 14) his hat again this year....

Chuck.....

I hate Schatz as much as the next guy and for more than his current winning streak BUT this would kill what little is left of this sport. It has a lot more than just the engine. Good driver in GREAT ALL AROUND EQUIPMENT = Real good chance at winning every night. They obviously nail setups.

One thing I'd like conformation about is the amount of stagger he runs. I heard somewhere that he averages like 9-8 inches most features no matter the track. If he runs that low on a regular basis and can do what he does then they are obviously ahead of most when it comes to setting these things up.

Well, let me start off by saying that we are a local 410 team that races local shows around Southeastern Wisconsin and Northern Illinois.

As for the stagger you mentioned that Schatz is running, I find that very believable since the last 2 seasons, we have been ordering a 98" left rear tire and running about 7-8 inches of stagger at most of our features.

that's what i want to pay 30-40 bucks a t icket for... a mulit-million dollar claiming series. hey it could even be implemented in F1. there are teams that have been dominating that series since donny was eating boogars!

now maybe i am wrong but i believe the woo has a protest procedure of some type don't they. can't competitors file a formal protest and put up a certain amount of cash in order to tear someone down?

it is well known that kraig does NOT have the same shit as donny. they have different motors and chassis to start with. donny's program is the same as it was before smoke bought it and from what we are seeing, the 20 car program hasn't changed much either. so go ahead and gripe that donny and kraig are not getting the same stuff. that is about the truest and most precise statement that most have offered here.

Yes, they do have a protest rule. Either all the teams are doing the same or they all believe he is legal!! I'm sure it's the 2nd part of that - he is legal.

think tha the WoO SHOULD have a claim rule

say maybe a half million claim on the tow rigs.

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The lack of a protest doesn't mean at all that the other teams believe is legal. Maybe he is legal and maybe he isn't. But the fact that no one has put up the money to protest may also the reflect the fact that any teardown of the biggest money team in the series would be a sham.

This is literally the dumbest suggestion I have ever witnessed!

I have personal experience with the IMCA claim rule. From the outside looking in the rule may seem like a creative, cost saving solution, but the rule actually does very little in terms of cost savings. Competitors have twisted the rule into a tool of revenge rather than allowing it to govern costs. IMCA has done nothing to address the claim rule abuses and as a result many tracks across the United States have dropped them. The Claim Rule is not the answer!

If Donny really is better/faster than the rest, then the rest of the teams better spend some more time in the shop. The sport needs a fast guy, a target if you will.

I'm not refering my opinion due to lack of protest. It has to due to the thought that all the other teams feel he is legal - nothing else - no TSR thoughts! And maybe, just maybe these teams aren't willing to face the embarrassment if he came out legal!!

It just keeps going. You take money away from one area, the car owners will add it to another. He who has the money, will always try to buy a competitive advantage. Don't let them spend it on the engine? They'll spend it on the chassis. Take that away? Spend it on the Aero. If racing was affordable, I wouldn't be typing to you from this desk right now. Since it's not, I'll stick to working and grassroots racing with scca on the weekends. We all know Kraig and Donny don't have the same parts, but that's because Tony Stewart was smart enough not to make Donny change. They both have TSR's money behind them, he just lets the teams independently choose how to spend it. Besides, has anyone taken a look at the racing this week? Other than one night of history, the 1z has been every bit as fast as the 15, and if you didn't notice their trailor is a 1/3 the size of the Outlaw trailers and their a part time crew from Central PA...but the owner, crew, and driver have some experience and skill and there showing it against the best.

I have a quote for sammy when he decided to come back this year and I think it explains alot “There are not many advantages anymore that you can have. The biggest advantage that you can have is to have a big budget and smart people.” could it be that they have a bigg budget smart people and a great driver hard combination to beat.

I totally agree with you about some smaller teams being just as fast with smaller budgets the point I would make is the bigger budget teams well just wear a small team down as the season goes by.

there are alot of teams that are very competitive out there and knowing donny and his group personaly

you take good care of your equipment and it well return the favor where most teams may freshen up motor every 6-8 shows I would guess that shaver is rotating mills in the 15 less than half those shows same goes for other other parts

just because your name is kinser or earnhardt does not mean that you well be as good as your dad it does not hurt to expect that is just insane kraig and dale are great drivers but are not or well they ever reach those levels sory to burst your bubble