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David, If a race team chooses to run NCRA events, I'm sure they will be apprised of the current Rules come Race-day. For you to Anchor them atop your Web Page only proves your prejudice.

I for one would be embarrassed to "anchor" any Sanctioning Body that belittles any class of race car. (Lanny, Dee ta dee)

For example: $500 to Win in the 305c.i. class. What a F-ing Joke.

Your Street Stock Rules are another joke. How do you expect a hard working man with a family and a passion to race to be able to even show up at the race track, much less compete.

Hells bells, its all you can do to keep your Camry on the City Streets. Think about it.

Love ya, Uncle A

not sure the 305 purse is that much of a joke. i dont they design that class to get the top 360 drivers to switch over to 305's........

what i mean is - take a look at the Sprint Series of Texas. they pay HALF of that - but still get 30 cars or more everywhere they go - hell - their promoter has to CAP the # of cars he invites to race. if SST paid more to win and stuff - you might see guys like ramey and others start cherrypickin it. as it is - they laugh at the purse. which really who is laughing is the SST. they have their stuff together - exactly the way they want it.

jmho unc. i just disagree that the 305 purse is a joke considering the intent of the class and the series. i'm not sure paying 1k instead of 500 would pay much positive benefit to the series. all the guys who would go out for 1k to win would go out for 500 to win too. and also i would think they are trying to make it very reasonable and affordable for the track promoters.........i dont really know tho man. you prob have a better idea of it than i do. just from the few conversations i had with different folks involved either directly or just in the stands -------- versus other 305 purses - it aint that bad is it? SST pays less - what does URSS pay?

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Well if your such a great promoter, why dont you come up with something instead of bitching about it. At least David promoted the idea, ran with it and now we finally have a sanctioned body of racing for people to run in Oklahoma for Sport Mods and Modifieds. I was a little concerned about the 305 class until i went to Ardmore this weekend. They had a real good car count. What have you done to help racing? Everyone complains that the rules at every track is different. Everyone complains about the Factory Stocks. At least David is trying something. What have you tried to suggest? What have you tried to do about it? Now we will have races at different tracks with same rules.

Sounds to me like your the joke. If you dont like the forum, go somewhere else. Do you even have a race car? I do!

Why dont you start your own web page. That would solve your problem!

You know what Unclea, if it is okay with you, I would like to respond too you on this, my message board.

The 305 purse is bigger than that of the current URSS payout I am told. They average between 25 and 35 cars a show and more are being built. NCRA is not in competition with ASCS or OCRS or the NAACP or whatever the case may be. To build 305s don't cost as much as it does for 360s and 410s. Just as sportmods dont cost near as much as the regular modifieds do. And the payout is just as much for the 305s as it is for the sportmods and the sportmod guys sure aren't complaining.

Maybe this class isn't for alot of you out there but maybe it is for those with limited or no budget at all and want to go sprint car racing. Why build you a factory stock when it seems you only have a couple of options at tracks to race when you can race other tracks and probably not tear up your equipment.

But all that don't matter to me, what pisses me off is your the second or third one to tell me what the hell I need to do with my website and how to run my message board. Just as I delete and monitor when I can and sometimes what I can, I can also have anchored what I want, when I want. And do worry, it won't be up there after November 1st. So you can rest easy now or just don't come to this message board until then if it bothers you so much.

And as mentioned above, those street stock rules was just a thought to get opinions on the matter. Isn't nobody going to have that down here so relax. Right now there are too many tracks in this state who have the better idea and promoters need to come around, talk in person to get on the same page and see if there can't be a universal set of rules for each division.

I LOVE my sprint car racing and have been through it thick and thin. The excitement can't be matched. But those sprint car guys are all basically on the same rules (a 410 rule is a 410 rule, a ASCS rule is also a NCRA rule), there is common ground there except for the super sprints and the SFS sprint vs the OCRS sprint. Unfortunately that may never change.

But as long as I get over 1500 hits and now people from all over the state are frequenting, maybe POSITIVE discussions can result and tracks and promoters can come on common ground with rules and maybe drivers will mostly agree.

I hope you feel better posting your thoughts cause I still the heck don't.

David Smith Jr.
www.oklahomatidbits.com

IMCA has a set of rules for IMCA Hobby Stock and IMCA stock car. If you have a car built by these rules, there are probably 50 different tracks that you can go to and be legal in Kansas, Nebraska, Missouri etc,etc. I have been saying for years and years that if we had that in oklahoma we would be a lot better off. I have a factory stock. I am at a disadvantage at some Oklahoma tracks and illegal at others. I think Okc and Lawton are the only 2 tracks in the state with the same rules for factory stock. The low car count in this class can be atributed to this problem I do believe. If I get rained out and want to go somewhere else I am eather illegal or at a disadvantage. They do not have that problem up north.

Personally I think the purse is built to get car count. How many series pay 200 to start? I am not sure but I believe the ASCS sooner region doesn't pay that. Just my opinion, but hey what do I know.

Just FYI, ASCS Sooner Region pays $250 to start...

I for 1 think that the Sports Mods need a sanctioning body in the state for this class. We travel all over Texas, New Mexico and to Louisiana just to race in Imca sanction races, Why because the rules are the same if its a sanctioned event....It would benifit everyone in this class to have the same rules all over the state, we have gone to a few special races closer to home but the IMCA rules are often enforced haphazard.... or by track discression as to what rules are exempt for that track.... it puts you at a disadvantage.

I also feel that having the same rules for the Sprints, Modifieds and Sports Mods will only help racing in the state.... Keeps the money here instead of going out of state to race.

Also we know several guys that race in Amarillo and Lubbock and they visit this site also, they think that this is a good deal, and have asked us if they would be allowed to race in this series also.... its a drive for them to travel all over Texas to race and this would be closer to home...

Fyi --OCRS pays 225.00 to start this year and I heard a rummor that they will pay 250.00 next year to start....

Helen

Interesting post and I thank you. I knew a couple sprint car guys from Amarillo viewed this site but didn't know other than that.

This NCRA Oklahoma Modified and NCRA Oklahoma sportmod deal is not just for Oklahoma drivers but for all drivers from no matter where they live. Just as long as they are legal. Please pass that along. However, if they read tidbits then I guess you won't have too huh?

David Smith Jr.
www.oklahomatidbits.com

Thanks Lonnie and rollout. Now I have been wrong twice in one day. Talk about making you feel inferior.

David I will pass it along or at least tell them to read this so it answers their questions.... all of them are IMCA leagal and a good bunch of guy.... they just love racing.....

I do have a question about the NCRA thing though, and I know this sounds kinda silly unless you"ve followed the IMCA season this year....... Whats the claim rule going to be and how is it going to be inforced? Reason for asking is that it got way out of control as far as the Sports Mod class this year....without starting trouble I will not name tracks or names as we were not there to see first hand .... but a certian group of racers used the claim rule thing to their advantage alot this year and parked several good drivers by claiming motors everywhere they went till they couldn"t afford to race anymore this year...10 or 12 guys with 3 claims each per year.... claiming 4 to 5 good drivers stuff till they broke them... tracks were required to follow the rules and so it happened..... I don't know if there will be a rule change in this rule because of it or just left alone.

I say get your own stinking board and then you can run it the way you want!

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So much for a forum with your opinion!!!!!! Uncla A you have every right to yours and so does everyone else, even though its not are forum. Thanks

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