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Just thought this might make for an intresting topic. Why is it when you get spun out that both cars go to the back? Why do you send the "Unsupecting Driver" to the back? In my humble opinion the Driver that does the spinning should go to the back and be credited with one caution and the Driver that got spun should get his spot back. The only thing that it does to the Driver that got spun is make him or her madder and elevate tempers. Should a Driver really get black flaged when spinning out "one" car in a race?

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I'll agree and add to it. I've seen several times where car "A" will spin, 360, and keep going, cars "B" and "C" crash trying to avoid "A", only cars "B" and "C" go to the back. Why?? I also don't care for the "if you don't stop, you weren't in the yellow" interpretation of the rules, it encourages drivers to try to keep going after making contact, often leading to more contact and more damage.

On an unrelated topic, how much sheet metal did Tyler have left last night?? I know the right side was pretty much gone. Too bad, too, because it eventually cost him a lot of spots.

Ya we had a blast nite again. it's a posistion I want to be in in the near future where I can take both my kids to one "Well Run Track". Well to answer your question "Not Much Salvageble" on that body anymore look for a new one this weekend. Even with us going to the back under Brills rule you know what they are before you go and "Everybody" has to go by that not just a select few.................P S we are going to try a new vel crow!

"Racing is an Addiction cured by Poverty"         
BOBCAT

I know at Enid the one that spins goes to the back, the other does not unless he did it on purpose then he goes to the pits for a black flag. Unless they both stop then they go to the back.

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JD,

What happen to Colby in the Feature

I think we burnt a piston, He complained about a "popin", and I said run it til it loses power. It lost power on about lap 7 and he pulled in. Probably be 2 or 3 weeks and it will be fixed. Thanks again for lettin him run with you out at Brilladega. We're lookin forward to Winter Natl.

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Let me know if you need any help getting it going

I agree it isn't fair to send the unsuspecting to the back when he or she is spun out. However, it does bring about a decision for either the flagmen or whatever person is running the show. Me personally i don't trust people to make that decision for me. Because of this rule i think alot of people get tore up in wrecks otherwise maybe avoided. I think lots of times its a racing deal and thats to bad they don't give guys in nascar their spots back either. On the flip side i think if it is blatantly intentional then the driver should be blacked flagged and the car that is spun should get its spot back.

The last thing you want is for the track officials to be judge and jury. Lord knows this has been gone over millions of times. In fairness, they don't always have a good view of the incident and they may have been looking elsewhere.

The best way to enforce it is to send the car that causes the caution to the back. It may not be the car that caused the incident, but if it is sitting still, it caused the caution. This allows the track to be consistent. I can live with a bad deal as long as it's consistent.

The more you can take judgement out of the equation, the better.

In theory, a spin out rule sounds like a great idea. In practice, I wonder how well it could be enforced.

"I'd pay $15 to watch a sprint car sit still."

Mike, your answer makes sense to me. At least its consistent.

Just dont trust the normal flagman at Brill. He has his favorites.

Consistancy is the word. The only way to be consistant and not have the appearance of favortism is to send any car that stops to the rear, no mattter who caused the yellow, you just can not decide that and sell it to both sides of the deal. Any time an official get his hands into the decision, trying to make a judgement call it will look like favortism to one side or the other. Sometimes it seems perfectly fair to give a guy his spot back but it will not always be clear cut and then the problems start. This way it is called "just racing" and the breaks of the game same deal for everyone but not favortism.

Really wanna start something? I've always wanted to see a rule that any driver wrecking another, intentionally or otherwise, gets to come back onto the track only when and if the "wreckee" gets going again. How many times have we seen car "A" spin, causing "B" and "C" to hit each other and then the wall trying to avoid him, causing "B" and "C" to go to the garage while "A" continues? Not anymore. Now, THAT would be fun in NASCAR, and at some local shows, everyone could go home early. Just a thought.

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