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Ellis43
July 28, 2008 at 11:42:59 AM
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Posted By: race88 on July 27 2008 at 12:42:41 PM

I just saw the tape,an amature photograghers tape ,it clearly shows Tony Stewart to be an Ass.USAC should bar Stewart from the pits till he successfully completes an anger management course.The USAC official he assaulted showed great restraint..........please go race indy cars tony,stomp your feet and pought with Danica,for all your trying to do to help sprint car/midget/silver crown,when you act up like this your an embarassment........



As a matter of fact he has already completed anger management.

Big fricken deal this kinda stuff happens all the time the only reason its such a big deal is because its TONY STEWART and not just some regular guy from the pits.If it was some no name person this wouldnt even be a topic of discussion.



race88
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Posted By: Ellis43 on July 28 2008 at 11:42:59 AM

As a matter of fact he has already completed anger management.

Big fricken deal this kinda stuff happens all the time the only reason its such a big deal is because its TONY STEWART and not just some regular guy from the pits.If it was some no name person this wouldnt even be a topic of discussion.



I respectfully disagree....In the 12 years I've raced ,I can only remember one incident where someone touched an official,nothing like Stewarts assault! Drivers ,owners,crewmembers I know have more respect for themselves and their sport than to act childish just because a call goes against them.But please don't list the events you might know of,some people already look down on us because of events publisized, like stewarts conduct,the good people I know from racing do control themselves......



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July 28, 2008 at 04:06:38 PM
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TONY STEWART FINED $10,000 BY USAC, TONY STEWART RACING

PLACED ON PROBATION THROUGH 2008





USAC team owner Tony Stewart has been fined $10,000 and Tony Stewart Racing has been placed on probation for the balance of the 2008 USAC racing season following an incident on pit road during Thursday night’s USAC National Midget race at O’Reilly Raceway Park (ORP) in Indianapolis.



Stewart was fined for violation of USAC competition rules 10.28 (Unsportsmanlike Conduct) and 10.32 (Conduct Detrimental to Racing) after his interaction with USAC race officials following an on-track incident involving one of his Midgets driven by Tracy Hines. Hines had scraped the wall and pitted for a tire change, but his car was not deemed ready to re-enter the race in time to rejoin the field for the restart.



“USAC immediately assessed the incident and it was determined that unacceptable behavior detrimental to the sport had occurred, and that the professionalism and the integrity of the series and its promoters had been severely compromised,” stated Jason Smith, Vice President of Racing Operations for USAC. “While we respect the passion of our teams in the spirit of competition, we regret this incident occurred and are dedicated to averting a recurrence in the future.”



“I apologize to USAC and their fans for my behavior last week at ORP. My own misinterpretation of USAC policies in place at the time led to confusion and elevated emotions,” Stewart said. “I’m very passionate about my race team and will stand up for them when I think something isn’t right. Obviously, I handled this particular situation the wrong way, and if I had to do it over again, it never would’ve happened.”



In addition to the fine and his race team being placed on probation through the 2008 season, Stewart will also pay for the costs of new radios and uniforms for USAC officials.



“Tony offered to go beyond the penalties USAC assessed him because he wanted to do something positive that would have specific impact for our officials,” said Kevin Miller, CEO and President of USAC. “While what took place at ORP last week was unfortunate, we applaud Tony’s commitment to bettering USAC and for providing additional equipment officials use week in and week out.”




KOP
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July 28, 2008 at 11:34:33 PM
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In addition to the fine and his race team being placed on probation through the 2008 season, Stewart will also pay for the costs of new radios and uniforms for USAC officials.

Are you kidding me? Thats it? He's just kicking in some sheep cloth with buttons and some ear muffs? No new gas guzzling trucks or 153' rolling billboards with non functional TV's on the side too? Wow, talk about getting off lightly! Smile



K_Kierce
July 29, 2008 at 01:55:47 AM
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KOP,

As you know by my previous posts on this thread I am by no means a T. S. fan but! I have to say that the fine is appropriate and perhaps a bit excessive. Because it is USAC and everyone needs to be treated equal,... if Don Blair where to do the same exact thing to Stevo at the next Perris race, would it be appropriate to fine him $10,000? You can’t fine someone additional money because they have money.

If you and I are both caught speeding on our way to the races Sat, the judge will set the fine having NO knowledge of our individual incomes.

I think USAC had to be careful here because if Chet Philips car owner does the same thing at the next race they need to fine him $10,000 as well, and I’m just guessing here but,... A smaller, lower buck team could not pay that fine.



JayP
July 29, 2008 at 09:02:52 AM
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A smaller low buck team owner would not look like a jackass with gas.




race88
July 29, 2008 at 12:11:54 PM
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Posted By: K_Kierce on July 29 2008 at 01:55:47 AM

KOP,

As you know by my previous posts on this thread I am by no means a T. S. fan but! I have to say that the fine is appropriate and perhaps a bit excessive. Because it is USAC and everyone needs to be treated equal,... if Don Blair where to do the same exact thing to Stevo at the next Perris race, would it be appropriate to fine him $10,000? You can’t fine someone additional money because they have money.

If you and I are both caught speeding on our way to the races Sat, the judge will set the fine having NO knowledge of our individual incomes.

I think USAC had to be careful here because if Chet Philips car owner does the same thing at the next race they need to fine him $10,000 as well, and I’m just guessing here but,... A smaller, lower buck team could not pay that fine.



All I know is ,at $10000 a pop I'll keep my hands in my pockets,so maybe the fine works......after all tony's sunglass budget is gone for the rest of the year........don't delude yourselves,money buys priviledge....character and class-PRICELESS



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KOP,

As you know by my previous posts on this thread I am by no means a T. S. fan but! I have to say that the fine is appropriate and perhaps a bit excessive. Because it is USAC and everyone needs to be treated equal,... if Don Blair where to do the same exact thing to Stevo at the next Perris race, would it be appropriate to fine him $10,000? You can’t fine someone additional money because they have money.

If you and I are both caught speeding on our way to the races Sat, the judge will set the fine having NO knowledge of our individual incomes.

I think USAC had to be careful here because if Chet Philips car owner does the same thing at the next race they need to fine him $10,000 as well, and I’m just guessing here but,... A smaller, lower buck team could not pay that fine.



KK:

I was just poking fun at the fact that "Smoke" elected to get USAC new clothing and radios as a peace offering. Heck, we all know they have plenty of those. What Smoke should really supply them with is the type of headgear that the Olympians use in boxing! Smile



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July 29, 2008 at 12:38:24 PM
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Bottom line is, you can react, you can yell, cuss, scream, but DO NOT TOUCH! Tony went over the line when he touched the official. I think the fine was appropriate, and I also believe Tony was right in stepping up and doing more than he was asked to do, to try and make it right. USAC did a good job this time. Tony, keep your hands in you pockets.

At the same time, I agree with Kevin that if someone else does this they need to get the same pennalty, and some teams won't be able to afford that stiff a fine. But where do you draw the line?

I know that I sure as hell will keep my hands in my pockets!!




wallscraper
July 29, 2008 at 12:43:38 PM
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Posted By: K_Kierce on July 25 2008 at 08:11:55 PM

Mr. Stewarts frustration is with the push truck! of which USAC has NO control. Tony Stewart is constantly sharing his lack of ability to be professional. And now this thread has turned into USAC's god's gift attitude??????

PEOPLE!!! the issue is that a competitor physicly accosted an official PERIOD.

USAC, NASCAR, SCRA, VRA, ASCA what ever,... its NOT acceptable!!!! I dont care who you are.



I agree, Kevin. It's not about Stewart. It's about assault. Simple. What if Tony was really pissed and a crescent wrench was handy.

Guess who comes out of one of these deals looking the worst. I wouldn't cap on Tony too much, some of his sponsors are probably already back-pedaling.


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RadRobinlb
July 29, 2008 at 01:06:41 PM
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KOP,

As you know by my previous posts on this thread I am by no means a T. S. fan but! I have to say that the fine is appropriate and perhaps a bit excessive. Because it is USAC and everyone needs to be treated equal,... if Don Blair where to do the same exact thing to Stevo at the next Perris race, would it be appropriate to fine him $10,000? You can’t fine someone additional money because they have money.

If you and I are both caught speeding on our way to the races Sat, the judge will set the fine having NO knowledge of our individual incomes.

I think USAC had to be careful here because if Chet Philips car owner does the same thing at the next race they need to fine him $10,000 as well, and I’m just guessing here but,... A smaller, lower buck team could not pay that fine.



That's an interesting point Mr. Kierce, and one that crossed my mind as well when I was reading the press release. Did USAC impose that extreme fine just because he is Tony Stewart, knowing that the amount is just a drop in the bucket to him? What happens when something similar happens to a "Low Buck" team? Does USAC intend to fine everybody $10,000 for various discretions relating to officials? USAC runs the risk of looking bad if something similar happens in the future, for it seems they levied this enormous fine just because Tony Stewart was involved. Why extort him? Why not just ask him for the money? I'm sure he would gladly give it up anyway, he want's this sport to succeed. This is not like other professional sports, teams do not have money laying around. Tony Stewart is an exception to the rule.
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sprinter25
July 29, 2008 at 01:35:18 PM
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Posted By: RadRobinlb on July 29 2008 at 01:06:41 PM
That's an interesting point Mr. Kierce, and one that crossed my mind as well when I was reading the press release. Did USAC impose that extreme fine just because he is Tony Stewart, knowing that the amount is just a drop in the bucket to him? What happens when something similar happens to a "Low Buck" team? Does USAC intend to fine everybody $10,000 for various discretions relating to officials? USAC runs the risk of looking bad if something similar happens in the future, for it seems they levied this enormous fine just because Tony Stewart was involved. Why extort him? Why not just ask him for the money? I'm sure he would gladly give it up anyway, he want's this sport to succeed. This is not like other professional sports, teams do not have money laying around. Tony Stewart is an exception to the rule.


Rad -

I'm guessing that USAC is doing a couple of things by levying such a large fine....

1) They're fining TS for his actions, and we all know that TS can afford it....

2) They're sending a message to all other competitors that their bylaws, rules, and regulations have some teeth and that they will bite your wallet if you perform a similar infraction. So folks may think twice before acting up, as it were....

Whatever precedent that they've set, is now set...but it does leave them open for second-guessing if the next incident is treated less harshly.


Chuck.....


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Rad -

I'm guessing that USAC is doing a couple of things by levying such a large fine....

1) They're fining TS for his actions, and we all know that TS can afford it....

2) They're sending a message to all other competitors that their bylaws, rules, and regulations have some teeth and that they will bite your wallet if you perform a similar infraction. So folks may think twice before acting up, as it were....

Whatever precedent that they've set, is now set...but it does leave them open for second-guessing if the next incident is treated less harshly.



I couldn't agree more. As a result of USAC's actions here it is doubtful that any competitor will ever duplicate T.S.'s behavior in the foreseeable future. Not at the tune of $10K. I believe USAC took this action to protect their officals and put out a strong warning to car owners, drivers and pit crew members.


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K_Kierce
July 29, 2008 at 04:53:44 PM
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Posted By: wallscraper on July 29 2008 at 12:43:38 PM

I agree, Kevin. It's not about Stewart. It's about assault. Simple. What if Tony was really pissed and a crescent wrench was handy.

Guess who comes out of one of these deals looking the worst. I wouldn't cap on Tony too much, some of his sponsors are probably already back-pedaling.



A cresent wrench?? at a high class, high dollar midget/silver crown race??? NO WAY!!! maybe at a monster truck show but my car owner wont even allow a cresent wrench in our shop much less at the track. How bout a torque wrench? or a breaker bar?

I think perhaps Smoke is slowly on his way to nothing but smoldering ashes.



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A cresent wrench?? at a high class, high dollar midget/silver crown race??? NO WAY!!! maybe at a monster truck show but my car owner wont even allow a cresent wrench in our shop much less at the track. How bout a torque wrench? or a breaker bar?

I think perhaps Smoke is slowly on his way to nothing but smoldering ashes.



Tony is a person of outstanding character and I think he is just fine the way he is. Rock on Tony!
Cheers!


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Posted By: henry chinaski on July 29 2008 at 06:07:02 PM
Tony is a person of outstanding character and I think he is just fine the way he is. Rock on Tony!


Henry, I hope that you're kidding,,,,

The issue that some folks have with TS is that you never know which Tony you're gonna get....will good Tony show up, or will bad Tony? His charitable work is commendable, but his outbursts and actions(like at ORP) are not. But Tony's ability to "buy" USAC off by paying a fine and buying a few shirts and radios won't convince me that he's a good guy all of the time....part of the time, maybe....but until he exhibits a consistent pattern of commendable behavior, the jury's still out, IMO


Chuck.....

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Tony is a person of outstanding character and I think he is just fine the way he is. Rock on Tony!

I happen to be one of those people that have experienced some of Tony's "Charactor". It wasn't nice. I was and I still am an admirer of his driving skill and support of short track racing. But when I asked him if he brought plenty of "Go Fast" for the event(Copper World), he lit into to me with an "F" word laced tirade. As a fan, it hurt. I have used the same opener with many other racers including Dave Blaney and Danny Sheridan and I always was treated with respect. I keep my distance from Tony so that I don't have to get reacquanted with his "Charactor".

 



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This message was edited on July 29, 2008 at 08:34:43 PM by BIGFISH

Henry chinaski kidding? I don't think so. He has a image to uphold and a growing reputation as a no nonsense kind of guy. He's not going to ruin all that for a joke..LOLth352818194-popcorn.gif image by grouper01

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race88
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Posted By: KOP on July 28 2008 at 11:34:33 PM

In addition to the fine and his race team being placed on probation through the 2008 season, Stewart will also pay for the costs of new radios and uniforms for USAC officials.

Are you kidding me? Thats it? He's just kicking in some sheep cloth with buttons and some ear muffs? No new gas guzzling trucks or 153' rolling billboards with non functional TV's on the side too? Wow, talk about getting off lightly! Smile



It was reported on IOW that Stewarts sponsers fined him $50000.I guess ,if thats true,they value their reputations 5 times more than USAC....or maybe the conduct justified the fine?$60000 dollars ,probation and replace the equipment he damaged,some days your the hammer -some days the nail



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Knowing what Tony has done for the open wheel sport when others that have made it to the high dollar ranks have ignored their roots, I say Tony should have been THANKED for being there and the offial should be PROUD that Tony respected him enough that he only knocked off his head set with the tips of his fingers instead of smacking him upside the head. In the good old days, Tony would have punched the offical and then bought him a beer after the race, but then again, in the good old days the officals would have known the fans came to see a race, not the officials parking top notch cars in the pits.





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