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October 22, 2026 at
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Posted By: Murphy on October 22 2026 at 05:34:13 PM
That's interesting. I did not know that they didn't collect all the money when they used a provisional. That seems like more of a disincentive for the driver. The payout doesn't go too far in covering the cost of being in the race, but he feels compelled to be there, to try and pick up some point against all the others who are also compelled to. Seems like a win for the series franchise.
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the post you replied to is 100% correct - subtract the start money. Now to your post - if it was a local low budget team you are probably correct about it being a disincentive. However, whether they get the 1,600 or 400 from a purse perspective it is a losing proposition bottom line. They take provisionals for their sponsors and end of season point placement for payout.
heck all teams are bolting on new rear tires for the feature and that cost alone is about $850.00 as both left and right rears are running around $425 a piece.
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October 22, 2026 at
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Posted By: Murphy on October 22 2026 at 05:34:13 PM
That's interesting. I did not know that they didn't collect all the money when they used a provisional. That seems like more of a disincentive for the driver. The payout doesn't go too far in covering the cost of being in the race, but he feels compelled to be there, to try and pick up some point against all the others who are also compelled to. Seems like a win for the series franchise.
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But it makes sense. If you get start money everyone who could would start and park. Provisionals are for the fans to see the driver's the promoters promised and for the teams to collect points to stay in the hunt.
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October 22, 2026 at
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Posted By: Rodneyincanad on October 22 2026 at 07:02:15 PM
But it makes sense. If you get start money everyone who could would start and park. Provisionals are for the fans to see the driver's the promoters promised and for the teams to collect points to stay in the hunt.
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I see your point. I'll concede that provisions make sense for the promoter who promised fans some stars, the fans who went to see those stars, and the sponsors who want to see their sponsored car on the track.
I'm still a little unsure about the thought of a whole bunch of corporate guys from Blatz Beer getting excited about seeing their name on Homer Skidmore's #99 iq as he charges from 26th to 19th and collects $0(?) 
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October 22, 2026 at
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A couple questions for someone smart, like maybe BillV: Are there any WoO drivers who didn't have to use a provisional start in 2026? What's been the highest finish for a WoO driver using a provisional?
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October 22, 2026 at
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Kofoid took 2 provisionals at Williams Grove and finished 11th and 18th for $200.
Axsom took one at Stockton and finished 12th.
Schatz took one at Huset's and finished 16th for $500.
Windom used one in God's Country for 13th. (That's Canada for those who don't know).
Schuchart went to 8th at Eldora.
So these WoO guys are doing better than the 99IQ car.
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October 23, 2026 at
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A little different perspective (at least what I thought their purpose was). I believe the provisionals came in the mid 90s at least that's when I first heard of them. I always thought it was an idea ripped off from NASCAR. In NASCAR they claimed it was for people who planned all year to go to one race and then their favorite driver didn't make it in and after spending all this time and money they didn't get to see their favorite driver race. What I heard the real reason for these was it made it easier for teams to get sponsors if the sponsor knew they were going to be in every race. So back to sprint car racing. In the mid 90s there seemed to be a lot more corporate sponsors (Quaker State, Channellock, Penzoil, STP etc) coming in (and yes I know there were coorporate sponsors before then but I don't think as many) and the competition seemed to be tightening up. I wonder if these were initially put in place for sponsors and their contracts?
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October 23, 2026 at
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Posted By: hardon on October 23 2026 at 12:08:50 AM
A little different perspective (at least what I thought their purpose was). I believe the provisionals came in the mid 90s at least that's when I first heard of them. I always thought it was an idea ripped off from NASCAR. In NASCAR they claimed it was for people who planned all year to go to one race and then their favorite driver didn't make it in and after spending all this time and money they didn't get to see their favorite driver race. What I heard the real reason for these was it made it easier for teams to get sponsors if the sponsor knew they were going to be in every race. So back to sprint car racing. In the mid 90s there seemed to be a lot more corporate sponsors (Quaker State, Channellock, Penzoil, STP etc) coming in (and yes I know there were coorporate sponsors before then but I don't think as many) and the competition seemed to be tightening up. I wonder if these were initially put in place for sponsors and their contracts?
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I remember Andy Hillenburg in the mid 90s at the Nationals having his consecutive A main starts in Woo streak snapped when he turned down a provisional for the Nationals A main? Am I right about that?
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