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Topic: "He's a piece of sh#t" Ryan Timms on Larson Email this topic to a friend | Subscribe to this TopicReport this Topic to Moderator
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Parnelli1970
August 11, 2026 at 01:36:01 PM
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Nobody's defending racism snowflake kindly take your shit to bluesky.



singlefile
August 11, 2026 at 01:38:02 PM
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What was the slur Liebig used about Larson?



bambam99
August 11, 2026 at 01:43:21 PM
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I've watched it several times watching it live i though it was kinda dirty but not "driving through him" dirty. After watching it several times if Timms wouldn't have tried to turn down they wouldn't have touched.  Calling him that was dumb but spending that much time with his car owner as he does, dumb is gonna rub off. That guy is a loud mouth idiot.




Parnelli1970
August 11, 2026 at 01:49:23 PM
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Hahahaha omg your the one who keeps bringing up politics. Actually tried to shoehorn it into the Larson and Timms discussion for no reason other than to run your mouth. How did you react when Larson said what he said? We all come here to discuss RACING not politics. But go ahead keep saying dumb shit it's very entertaining.



Parnelli1970
August 11, 2026 at 01:54:28 PM
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Oh so that means your right about everything than.



SamHerring14
August 11, 2026 at 01:56:30 PM
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Posted By: Parnelli1970 on August 11 2026 at 01:54:28 PM

Oh so that means your right about everything than.



not everything. but I can call out racism when I see it. shame all the spineless hacks in here can't 




Parnelli1970
August 11, 2026 at 02:01:16 PM
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Posted By: SamHerring14 on August 11 2026 at 01:56:30 PM

not everything. but I can call out racism when I see it. shame all the spineless hacks in here can't 



I can't imagine being so triggered over something Leibig said. Keep up the good fight there I hope you enjoy the races or not hahahaha.



Quick-time
August 11, 2026 at 03:14:23 PM
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Posted By: SprintFan16 on August 11 2026 at 01:08:27 AM

Seems like there's a ton of awful knee-jerk reactions to this, but I assumed it was coming. 

Larson pulled a shit move - nothing more to say about it. Gave Timms no chance to do anything with it, and this isn't the first time for Larson. His aggression is part of his incredible talent, but also will lead to situations like this. Also, going for the smug pseudo villain in victory lane persona sucks when this was clearly his fault.

Liebig is really speedrunning being a POS as well - there is never a good reason to use a racial slur. He had the right to be upset but going there is a mistake - combining that with flat out threatening to junk Reutzel about a month ago, I don't think Shane is a very emotionally sound person. Shame as he has a great operation.

And yes, Timms did junk Kelby Watt a month ago, but I think they're different situations - one, Timms misjudged and hit the inside berm at Knoxville, he didn't just clean Kelby's front end up on purpose, and two, it might have been the only shot Timms would have had to get by him. Larson was clearly faster than Timms, and I completely get the "no weakness, always aggressive" mindset but let's do it without risking another driver and their equipment.

Sidenote - I'm a big fan of using points and inverting to make for good heat racing, but Osky must have one really messy system if Larson qualifies fourth, finishes ninth in a heat and still starts 11th in the A, in front of guys like Bayston (13th quick, 2nd in heat) for example. Tried to find the format everywhere but it seems to not be posted online.



I disagree that Larson pulled any sort of shit move. Timms needs to realize that when he races in the Big Boy sand box that they play for real. There is no slack that drivers owe you when racing for the lead. When others are faster than you, they do not owe it to you to wait a couple of laps to pass you. If the opporunity presents it's self any driver worth his salt will take it. That is why they call it racing. If you screwup and get slide, don't blame the slider, reguardless of who it is. Learn from it and move on. Have a long memory and when the shoe is on the other foot, draw from the experience .No need to whine about it.



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August 11, 2026 at 03:47:15 PM
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Posted By: Quick-time on August 11 2026 at 03:14:23 PM

I disagree that Larson pulled any sort of shit move. Timms needs to realize that when he races in the Big Boy sand box that they play for real. There is no slack that drivers owe you when racing for the lead. When others are faster than you, they do not owe it to you to wait a couple of laps to pass you. If the opporunity presents it's self any driver worth his salt will take it. That is why they call it racing. If you screwup and get slide, don't blame the slider, reguardless of who it is. Learn from it and move on. Have a long memory and when the shoe is on the other foot, draw from the experience .No need to whine about it.



Like, I can completely understand having differing opinions on how people are supposed to race, but statements like "Timms needs to realize that when he races in the Big Boy sand box that they play for real" is almost laughable. I think the guy understands the stakes pretty well given the success he's had since getting in the 10 car.

I can see the point of not giving slack and tried to make it apparent - what you're taking as good, hard racing I just disagree with - Larson's slider is so aggressive, Timms has no way to combat it. He's got two choices: either hammer it down and probably become a temporary NASA pilot in testing gravity, or literally what happened - lift and try to crossover, but still get hit. Which is why I still stick to my guns that it's a crappy move on the 57's behalf.




sonoranrat
August 11, 2026 at 04:46:54 PM
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Posted By: miledirtfan on August 11 2026 at 05:30:19 AM

Larson's move was dumb

Liebig's racial slur was dumb



A racial slur should be rewaded with a heavy fine and a long suspension.  



highspeeddirt
August 11, 2026 at 06:05:19 PM
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Maybe larson knew he pulled a bad move and was going to apologize and own it until Mr. Mouth started talking crap to him. Then he was probably like f them guys. Yeah it wasn't the cleanest pass but it was far from the worst I have seen.



Sprinter27R
August 11, 2026 at 07:06:28 PM
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Posted By: singlefile on August 11 2026 at 01:38:02 PM

What was the slur Liebig used about Larson?



He called him a dirty chink and for all you arm chair quarter backs bagging on Larson for not being all apologetic and shit in victory lane, how would you act if a pos car owner came up to you and called you a racial slur when you were still strapped in your car ? Now that you know this, can you not understand why Kyle was less than apologetic ? I thought he handeled it pretty damn well, a whole lot better than I would have in my active racing days. Larson did not make contact on purpose, it was not intentional and Timms was making mistakes and did in fact come down as Kyle was sliding  him. To me it's nothing more than a racing deal that resulted in nothing more than a bent nose wing and is being blown way the F out of proportion. Personally if I would have witnessed Timm's pos car owner call Kyle or any other person of asian or oriental descent a dirty chink it would take every bit of self restraint to not knock that asshole the F out...  


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YungWun24
August 11, 2026 at 07:41:04 PM
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Posted By: larsonfan on August 10 2026 at 11:24:20 PM

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Timms take out some cars in turns 3 & 4 recently at Knoxville? I also remember his no-class car owner threatening Reutzel for the then upcoming Kings Royal at Eldora. Go ahead and present yourself as a punk with a loudmouth car owner Ryan. See how far that gets you in your career.

 



I'm guessing b/c of your "name" on here that youre incapable of giving an unbiased opinion. 

It was a bad slide job. I would have felt better about it, if he owned up that he made a bad move. Does he owe Timms and apology? Not at all. 

If I'm Timms, yes I'm upset. He was leading, and got taken out by the most talented sprint car driver we've seen. Stuff a mic in my face, shortly after, and yes, I'm likely to say some things that I wouldn't normally say. 

In no way, do I view Timms comments or him as a punk, but Larson is YOUR guy. I think Timms is doing alright in his career. 


Keep It Real

egras
August 11, 2026 at 08:13:30 PM
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From a Larson fan

 

1.   Slider gone bad

2.  Timms couldn't have done anything to avoid contact--which is why it's a slider gone bad in sprint car racing

3.   After being called that while strapped in his car, I wouldn't apologize either.  I agree with highspeeddirt---was probably going to apologize for a crap move and after the verbal assault, was too pissed to do so. 



Parnelli1970
August 11, 2026 at 08:40:06 PM
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Posted By: egras on August 11 2026 at 08:13:30 PM

From a Larson fan

 

1.   Slider gone bad

2.  Timms couldn't have done anything to avoid contact--which is why it's a slider gone bad in sprint car racing

3.   After being called that while strapped in his car, I wouldn't apologize either.  I agree with highspeeddirt---was probably going to apologize for a crap move and after the verbal assault, was too pissed to do so. 



Agree � people forget Tlmms' midget career he was doing the same thing he was so pissed about happening to him. And his owner is a complete idiot,he showed his intelligence with the Reutzel rant.




Sprinter27R
August 11, 2026 at 08:45:27 PM
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Posted By: Parnelli1970 on August 11 2026 at 08:40:06 PM

Agree � people forget Tlmms' midget career he was doing the same thing he was so pissed about happening to him. And his owner is a complete idiot,he showed his intelligence with the Reutzel rant.



The Reutzel rant and calling Larson a dirty Chink, he's the only piece of shit I see in this story...


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Parnelli1970
August 11, 2026 at 08:56:30 PM
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Posted By: Sprinter27R on August 11 2026 at 08:45:27 PM

The Reutzel rant and calling Larson a dirty Chink, he's the only piece of shit I see in this story...



Yes he is and I wish they would stop putting a microphone in his face he has shown us who he is. Larson handled it about as good as someone can.



bambam99
August 11, 2026 at 09:53:51 PM
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Posted By: Parnelli1970 on August 11 2026 at 08:56:30 PM

Yes he is and I wish they would stop putting a microphone in his face he has shown us who he is. Larson handled it about as good as someone can.



1000% agree Shane Leibig is a loud mouth idiot that just loves to run his mouth. Says he's been around for 50 years but nobody ever heard of him till Ryan Timm's dad started throwing money at the deal.




singlefile
August 11, 2026 at 10:09:23 PM
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Posted By: Sprinter27R on August 11 2026 at 07:06:28 PM

He called him a dirty chink and for all you arm chair quarter backs bagging on Larson for not being all apologetic and shit in victory lane, how would you act if a pos car owner came up to you and called you a racial slur when you were still strapped in your car ? Now that you know this, can you not understand why Kyle was less than apologetic ? I thought he handeled it pretty damn well, a whole lot better than I would have in my active racing days. Larson did not make contact on purpose, it was not intentional and Timms was making mistakes and did in fact come down as Kyle was sliding  him. To me it's nothing more than a racing deal that resulted in nothing more than a bent nose wing and is being blown way the F out of proportion. Personally if I would have witnessed Timm's pos car owner call Kyle or any other person of asian or oriental descent a dirty chink it would take every bit of self restraint to not knock that asshole the F out...  



Thank you for the answer.



bambam99
August 11, 2026 at 10:28:31 PM
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Posted By: singlefile on August 11 2026 at 10:09:23 PM

Thank you for the answer.



I'd say its pretty evident the #10 has lost alot of cheerleaders in the last 25 hrs.





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