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June 28, 2024 at
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Seems like a nice guy and is a good non wing guy, but let's face it he's average at best in a wing car.
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June 28, 2024 at
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Posted By: bambam99 on June 28 2024 at 08:13:11 PM
Seems like a nice guy and is a good non wing guy, but let's face it he's average at best in a wing car.
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Agree, he ran ok with the allstars but he's struggling with the HL series.
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June 28, 2024 at
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Posted By: Sprinter27R on June 28 2024 at 08:26:06 PM
Agree, he ran ok with the allstars but he's struggling with the HL series.
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It just hasn't been as natural as like Sunshine ect. He doesn't look comfortable or have any confidence.
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June 28, 2024 at
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Posted By: bambam99 on June 28 2024 at 08:13:11 PM
Seems like a nice guy and is a good non wing guy, but let's face it he's average at best in a wing car.
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Agreed. I'm pulling for Windom. Hoping his car owner has the patience to stick with him through the year. He seems to be improving week to week but isn't matching Courtney's path in moving over from on-wang
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June 29, 2024 at
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Posted By: SVMike on June 28 2024 at 10:06:44 PM
Agreed. I'm pulling for Windom. Hoping his car owner has the patience to stick with him through the year. He seems to be improving week to week but isn't matching Courtney's path in moving over from on-wang
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As long as the NOS checks keep coming his car owner will be happy.
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June 29, 2024 at
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I dont understand these types of posts. Do you think you be any better in that car? Why dont you just be glad hes out there racing and its another car on the track. You want everybody that doesnt win to quit and then you can just watch 6 or 7 cars race each other?
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June 30, 2024 at
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June 30, 2024 at
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Posted By: bambam99 on June 28 2024 at 08:13:11 PM
Seems like a nice guy and is a good non wing guy, but let's face it he's average at best in a wing car.
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I won't get butt hurt by you pointing out the obvious. He is definitely average at best. It doesn't mean you're slamming him, just making an observation. As Tony Stewart said a couple of years ago, driving a winged 410 is easier to drive than a wingless car. The only hard part about a winged 410 is being fast. Not every car suits every driving style. That's what makes drivers like Tony Stewart and Kyle Larson special.
Many (mostly Larson haters) have been all over social media proclaiming Corey Day as better than Larson. He is a badass, no doubt. He looks to be a replica of Larson in a 410, no doubt. I haven't had a chance to watch him in much else, but it sounds like he has been fast in whatever he's driven to this point. He has a long ways to go before we put him in the Mario Andretti/AJ Foyt/ Jeff Gordon/Tony Stewart/Kyle Larson conversation. He just might be that kid though----too early to tell. It takes a special person to be fast in anything he/she sits in.
There are a lot of Chris Windoms out there. Fast in one type of car, but not quite so fast in others. It's not a slam, it's just the way it is. Sammy tried, but could not break through in the pavement ranks of Nascar and Indy. Kinser and his kid both tried, but could not break through in Nascar. Clauson didn't have the type of success he wanted in the "big leagues." Sweet attempted to make it----didn't happen. What do they all do? Settle in on the type of car(s) they can make a living in. Being a badass in 1 or 2 types of cars is nothing to be ashamed of.
(also---I'm adding Day to my list of favorites at the Nats. It's now Larson, Schatz, Gravel, Day in the first tier)
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June 30, 2024 at
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Posted By: egras on June 30 2024 at 09:02:26 AM
I won't get butt hurt by you pointing out the obvious. He is definitely average at best. It doesn't mean you're slamming him, just making an observation. As Tony Stewart said a couple of years ago, driving a winged 410 is easier to drive than a wingless car. The only hard part about a winged 410 is being fast. Not every car suits every driving style. That's what makes drivers like Tony Stewart and Kyle Larson special.
Many (mostly Larson haters) have been all over social media proclaiming Corey Day as better than Larson. He is a badass, no doubt. He looks to be a replica of Larson in a 410, no doubt. I haven't had a chance to watch him in much else, but it sounds like he has been fast in whatever he's driven to this point. He has a long ways to go before we put him in the Mario Andretti/AJ Foyt/ Jeff Gordon/Tony Stewart/Kyle Larson conversation. He just might be that kid though----too early to tell. It takes a special person to be fast in anything he/she sits in.
There are a lot of Chris Windoms out there. Fast in one type of car, but not quite so fast in others. It's not a slam, it's just the way it is. Sammy tried, but could not break through in the pavement ranks of Nascar and Indy. Kinser and his kid both tried, but could not break through in Nascar. Clauson didn't have the type of success he wanted in the "big leagues." Sweet attempted to make it----didn't happen. What do they all do? Settle in on the type of car(s) they can make a living in. Being a badass in 1 or 2 types of cars is nothing to be ashamed of.
(also---I'm adding Day to my list of favorites at the Nats. It's now Larson, Schatz, Gravel, Day in the first tier)
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Agree with all you say here, the only name I'll add to the Nationals 1st tier contender list besides those you mentioned is Tyler Courtney He's beat them all at one time or another on big tracks this season, could it be his year ?
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Posted By: Sprinter27R on June 30 2024 at 04:44:14 PM
Agree with all you say here, the only name I'll add to the Nationals 1st tier contender list besides those you mentioned is Tyler Courtney He's beat them all at one time or another on big tracks this season, could it be his year ?
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I don't quite have him on that list, but certainly could get it done no doubt. Just like Sweet, Macedo, and Rico. They can all get it done, but have not quite been up to the speed of those other 4 the past few trips.
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July 01, 2024 at
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Posted By: egras on June 30 2024 at 09:02:26 AM
I won't get butt hurt by you pointing out the obvious. He is definitely average at best. It doesn't mean you're slamming him, just making an observation. As Tony Stewart said a couple of years ago, driving a winged 410 is easier to drive than a wingless car. The only hard part about a winged 410 is being fast. Not every car suits every driving style. That's what makes drivers like Tony Stewart and Kyle Larson special.
Many (mostly Larson haters) have been all over social media proclaiming Corey Day as better than Larson. He is a badass, no doubt. He looks to be a replica of Larson in a 410, no doubt. I haven't had a chance to watch him in much else, but it sounds like he has been fast in whatever he's driven to this point. He has a long ways to go before we put him in the Mario Andretti/AJ Foyt/ Jeff Gordon/Tony Stewart/Kyle Larson conversation. He just might be that kid though----too early to tell. It takes a special person to be fast in anything he/she sits in.
There are a lot of Chris Windoms out there. Fast in one type of car, but not quite so fast in others. It's not a slam, it's just the way it is. Sammy tried, but could not break through in the pavement ranks of Nascar and Indy. Kinser and his kid both tried, but could not break through in Nascar. Clauson didn't have the type of success he wanted in the "big leagues." Sweet attempted to make it----didn't happen. What do they all do? Settle in on the type of car(s) they can make a living in. Being a badass in 1 or 2 types of cars is nothing to be ashamed of.
(also---I'm adding Day to my list of favorites at the Nats. It's now Larson, Schatz, Gravel, Day in the first tier)
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Yea, Windom sucks.....
He's only 1 of 7 to win all three USAC division championships in the last 52 years. He's awful, right Egras? I've never met you, but I'll give you this, you can throw some serious hyperbole out on this forum.
EasyE said it best above: "I dont understand these types of posts. Do you think you'd be any better in that car? Why dont you just be glad hes out there racing and its another car on the track. You want everybody that doesnt win to quit and then you can just watch 6 or 7 cars race each other?"
Couldn't agree more.
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July 01, 2024 at
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Posted By: larsonfan on July 01 2024 at 04:51:01 PM
Yea, Windom sucks.....
He's only 1 of 7 to win all three USAC division championships in the last 52 years. He's awful, right Egras? I've never met you, but I'll give you this, you can throw some serious hyperbole out on this forum.
EasyE said it best above: "I dont understand these types of posts. Do you think you'd be any better in that car? Why dont you just be glad hes out there racing and its another car on the track. You want everybody that doesnt win to quit and then you can just watch 6 or 7 cars race each other?"
Couldn't agree more.
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Settle down, no one said he's no good, he's one of the best in non wing, a triple crown winner. I think I actually posted this before. Having said that he, for all the laps he has ran in a winged car the last couple seasons is not getting the job done period. If he didn't bring the big bucks with him he would be out of a ride. I know of a few way more talented winged drivers who would do much better in that equipment...
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Posted By: Sprinter27R on July 01 2024 at 07:20:20 PM
Settle down, no one said he's no good, he's one of the best in non wing, a triple crown winner. I think I actually posted this before. Having said that he, for all the laps he has ran in a winged car the last couple seasons is not getting the job done period. If he didn't bring the big bucks with him he would be out of a ride. I know of a few way more talented winged drivers who would do much better in that equipment...
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Can't point out the obvious without being a hater by these "expert" race watchers
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Posted By: larsonfan on July 01 2024 at 04:51:01 PM
Yea, Windom sucks.....
He's only 1 of 7 to win all three USAC division championships in the last 52 years. He's awful, right Egras? I've never met you, but I'll give you this, you can throw some serious hyperbole out on this forum.
EasyE said it best above: "I dont understand these types of posts. Do you think you'd be any better in that car? Why dont you just be glad hes out there racing and its another car on the track. You want everybody that doesnt win to quit and then you can just watch 6 or 7 cars race each other?"
Couldn't agree more.
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Larsonfan---apologies because if you only read my post, and not the one I was responding to, it sounds like I'm not high on Windom. If you read the post I was replying to, it was pointing out that Windom was average at best in a winged 410, which has been pretty easy to support with results. I did not mean he was an average driver at best in a sprint car. Far from it. After reading my post, by not clearly stating what I was replying to, it definitely reads wrong. He's a hell of a driver, but winged sprint cars, at least at this point, are not his strong point. I am very familiar with him, and was not trying to stir the pot.
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I've watched Windom before jumping into a winged car. He was one of the best in non wing. I think we're a little spoiled with Larson, Bell, finding success in both.
I remember one of my favorite drivers from Carmichael California taking a couple of years to get the the handle on winged, and just when we started seeing improvements...
Windom is one of the best currently in non wing. I think he will improve. Not sure what the point of this post is. I brushed my teeth this morning and also put my pants on. I started my car before driving into work.
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Posted By: YungWun24 on July 03 2024 at 07:30:45 AM
I've watched Windom before jumping into a winged car. He was one of the best in non wing. I think we're a little spoiled with Larson, Bell, finding success in both.
I remember one of my favorite drivers from Carmichael California taking a couple of years to get the the handle on winged, and just when we started seeing improvements...
Windom is one of the best currently in non wing. I think he will improve. Not sure what the point of this post is. I brushed my teeth this morning and also put my pants on. I started my car before driving into work.
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I think part of the reason that folks are being so critical is because……Tyler Courtney made it look easy.
Windom will be fine. He was very competitive in the recent Maverick Mayhem Week (IRA / Maverick Winged Sprint Series) in Indiana. He finished in front of a lot of good cars. In the HL series he is racing against the better of the best. Of course he will struggle.
That’s one of the cool things about the High Limit model. Guys low in points can still race locally or elsewhere during all of their time off. They have another chance to win races, build confidence, and earn money. The model could work for 20 (or more) full time drivers because of this.
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Sounds to me like your just suppose to jump in and start getting podium finishes.in the first couple of years! Or end up on the Hosehead Wall of Shame! I wish him all the best, And when he finally gets in his comfort zone hopefully some Crow will be served.
The man is a damn good racer, He'll figure it out.
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Posted By: Paintboss on July 03 2024 at 08:10:33 AM
Sounds to me like your just suppose to jump in and start getting podium finishes.in the first couple of years! Or end up on the Hosehead Wall of Shame! I wish him all the best, And when he finally gets in his comfort zone hopefully some Crow will be served.
The man is a damn good racer, He'll figure it out.
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I have not read one single person bashing Windom or putting him on the "wall of shame" in this entire post. The thread started with saying he was a hell of wingless racer, but has been average at best with a wing. I've read every response. No one said Windom sucked. No one. He also wouldn't "serve crow" to anyone here because no one said he wouldn't ever figure it out. Calling him average at best isn't slamming him----he's got no top 5's and 5 top tens in 25 feature starts with the HL. Thats not a slam, someone just pointed out it's average at best. It is. I've seen him be a dominant driver at times in other disciplines so it wouldn't surprise me one bit to see him completely turn it around.
Why would we need to be served crow? No one said he sucked. If they did, please point it out. All I've read are people wishing him the best.
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Posted By: YungWun24 on July 03 2024 at 07:30:45 AM
I've watched Windom before jumping into a winged car. He was one of the best in non wing. I think we're a little spoiled with Larson, Bell, finding success in both.
I remember one of my favorite drivers from Carmichael California taking a couple of years to get the the handle on winged, and just when we started seeing improvements...
Windom is one of the best currently in non wing. I think he will improve. Not sure what the point of this post is. I brushed my teeth this morning and also put my pants on. I started my car before driving into work.
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How many years did he run USAC before going wang?
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he seems to be involved in a wreck every time i watch a high limit race. you wait for the windom caution just like the harrison burton caution in a nascar race. it's just pointing out the obvious. i don't have anything against him either aside from when he wrecked buckwalter at a silver crown race at willima sgrove.
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Posted By: egras on June 30 2024 at 09:02:26 AM
I won't get butt hurt by you pointing out the obvious. He is definitely average at best. It doesn't mean you're slamming him, just making an observation. As Tony Stewart said a couple of years ago, driving a winged 410 is easier to drive than a wingless car. The only hard part about a winged 410 is being fast. Not every car suits every driving style. That's what makes drivers like Tony Stewart and Kyle Larson special.
Many (mostly Larson haters) have been all over social media proclaiming Corey Day as better than Larson. He is a badass, no doubt. He looks to be a replica of Larson in a 410, no doubt. I haven't had a chance to watch him in much else, but it sounds like he has been fast in whatever he's driven to this point. He has a long ways to go before we put him in the Mario Andretti/AJ Foyt/ Jeff Gordon/Tony Stewart/Kyle Larson conversation. He just might be that kid though----too early to tell. It takes a special person to be fast in anything he/she sits in.
There are a lot of Chris Windoms out there. Fast in one type of car, but not quite so fast in others. It's not a slam, it's just the way it is. Sammy tried, but could not break through in the pavement ranks of Nascar and Indy. Kinser and his kid both tried, but could not break through in Nascar. Clauson didn't have the type of success he wanted in the "big leagues." Sweet attempted to make it----didn't happen. What do they all do? Settle in on the type of car(s) they can make a living in. Being a badass in 1 or 2 types of cars is nothing to be ashamed of.
(also---I'm adding Day to my list of favorites at the Nats. It's now Larson, Schatz, Gravel, Day in the first tier)
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Day comes from a legendary family ofl drivers. DNA trumps most everything...from 15th to first is more than impressive, keep you eyes on him.
Ascot was the greatest of all time..
West Capital wasn't half bad either..
Life is good...
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