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Is it me or is the guy outside row one at a huge disadvantage on the starts in the Allstars. I think there was at least three races (maybe more maybe only two as I was multitasking with kiddos at home) that got called back. Immediate penalty to move back a row. I'm okay with no warning but the instances were similar. The outside starts in the slick and tries to build up momentum. On the gas sooner? Ya probably. Side by side at the flag stand though pretty well. This really hurt Justin Peck in his heat likely keeping him out of the dash making him have to go 9th to 2nd. Don't know if he beats Courtney or not still but heck of a race. The starting issue was just an observation. 

It definitely seems that the all-stars aren't very consistent with false start calls. I've always been of the opinion of letting starts go unless it's very obvious. Getting a good jump has always been part of racing and you don't want to get too picky because it holds up the show, gets annoying to the fans, and more side by side starts = more chances of a crash. If it's clean and nothing too egregious, let it go.

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Exactly!! It should be a cat and mouse game on the start. If within reason let it go but it was like the pole sitter can do no wrong and second couldn't get it right unless they spotted the pole sitter a few car lengths.

I assumed Justin Peck was going to join the ASCOC> has he made a statement for his summer plans? seems to be picking and choosing.

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Not committed to any series like you said he's picking and choosing.

He's doing High Limit and then picking and choosing around those dates.

Forgot about that my mistake thanks.

I can't refer to the exact incident you're talking about but the starts in sprint car racing have always kind of bugged me.  To me the guy who starts 1st should have the advantage.  However as many sprint car fans know, many times the guy starting 2nd has the advantage.  I like the idea of the leader having the choice to pick if he starts inside or outside.  But from what I've witnessed in NASCAR throughout the years is if the leader chooses the outside the 3rd place car is at a huge disadvantage, many times he's lucky to be in the top 5 after a lap.  I guess I like the choose rule that NASCAR came up with and the high limit series adopted.  Sorry to hijack the thread.

Sprint Cars did single file restarts for most of their existence.  I forgot what year they went to double file.  Maybe ten, fifteen years now?  

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My post was from February at Volusia which just got brought back up to the top. It's but a faint memory now of what that start was

Should go back to single file restarts IMO. I think it was only about 5 years ago when the WOO started double file. Many tracks still do single file for regular shows.

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I like the double file restarts.  It makes things a lot more fun and exciting!  Single file restarts are very boring.  I had many of years of single file restarts.  The doulbe is where it is at.

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Fun and excitement translates to I want to see somebody flip out of the park or a good crash. I have heard and seen people in the stands act, they say and do the stupidest things when someone is involved in a crash.

Call me crazy but I like single file restarts. I think second in a single file restart in the race has a huge advantage to take the opposite lane of the leader. The leader has to choose whether to block low or pin it high and expect a slider. When you go double file it's a jumbled up mess of guys not being able to give sliders or cross unders because that lane is already filled by another driver 2 wide 12 deep. I don't hate the double file but it makes it so the motors means more as there is a lot to gain or lose on a double file restart in the first few hundred feet of going green.

I have to say I agree with what everyone's saying here.  I can't say I'm a fan of double file restarts because to me it seems "gimmicky", almost like they just followed NASCAR's lead.  But I can't really say I was a fan of the way single file restarts were handled either.  From what I remember, usually the green flag was thrown in turn 4 and there would be a cone by the flag stand and nobody was allowed to pass before that cone.  To me that was a recipe for boring racing, if someone got a real good run on the guy they were behind they would have to slow down before the cone which killed their momentum.  I remember the outlaw restart from years ago and always like that, it seemed like the leader always had the advantage (so long as they always took off at a different spot) and if someone timed something right they didn't have to slow down because of a cone.  Does anyone know why they ever went away from that?