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From a Facebook post by Baldwin Racing Engines:

Huge Congrats to Pnuts Campbell and Kasey Burch on yet another 410 Sprint track championship. 3 track championships in 4 years with this car and our LS 410. This engine continues to impress, hasn’t been touched since a quick refresh at mid season last year. We brought it in this week and ran the valves before last nights race for the first time of the season. 925hp getting it done night after night with zero failures.

Pretty impressive! I don't recognize the driver's name, but congrats to Kasey Burch and the entire team! This crew is doing something right, in the past this track was dominated by the Montgomery brothers.

So its an iron block LS?  Congrats to them!!

I still can't believe the LS platform hasn't made further inroads in dirt racing.  On the street, the thing is bulletproof and you can throw stupid amounts of supercharging at it and it lives.

Tell us more. Who built the motor? Which LS? Cost? Anybody else running an LS? I checked out the rules and there basically aren't any except for tires and safety. Great potential for other smaller tracks if they would follow this concept. Darin has this going pretty good in TX except they even out the motors a bit with wing angle rules. Congrats on the championship.

Engine information from Baldwin Racing Engines:

We have finally got together a full quote for a turnkey LS410 Sprint engine. Dart aluminum block, billet Callie’s crankshaft, Dyers rods, custom CP pistons w/DLC pins, custom All-Pro heads w/Ti valves, DLC lifters, Jesel shaft rockers, custom Billet Engler injection, Wolff 5 stage pump and plumbing, Olson oil pan, water pump and all plumbing. Engine weight was 340#, engine chassis dyno’s at Engler 880hp and 685lbsft. So the engine roughly makes 925hp and 725lbsft, much lower cost of operation. Great drivability and power. Complete package is $45,500.00 so considerably less upfront cost as well. Contact us for more info, 3 years on run time on this combo with great results.

Nice engine for sure and from what you pasted it costs less to purchase and maintain than a full blown plant from a big time builder. I was hoping this thread lead down a path where it was a LS pulled from a crashed Silverado and built up as a contender to take down the "big guys". 

Top two cars at the Little 500 were LS engines.  Kody Swanson has won several pavement sprint races with it.

Also Hurst Brothers Racing has been runing one for years.  They call it the buick as thats what the LS program started out as.   Have many track championships and wins at Paragon and Lawrenceburg and Lincoln Park and Bloomington.  Not all with that motor, but many.

I too think it's past time to take 70k engines that have to be refreshed in as little as 7-10 races and replace em with a 30k two year motor.

410 can only continue with purses that support it.  Look at the LM's two premier tracks don't even run em anymore as the premier series, just specials.  Brownstown and Florence.

Add on.  Even at 45k it's a far cheaper than having ot have several engines and a couple being rebuilt all the time.   What, your losing 60hp too a speedway or gaerte and getting the huge

added life span between rebuilds

The UMSS/Renegade wingless sprint car brand in the upper Midwest is using mainly LS1 engines in our cars.  Many guys have taken motors out of junkyard trucks, put on a racing pan and intake and have a race winning engine for under $4000.  Even guys that have taken one apart and rebuilt it are looking at engines under $6500 and they will last several seasons before any maintenance would need to be done, aside from regualr oil changes.

Check out Richard Holdener's articles in Hot Rod and many other auto publications.  He specializes in "junk-yard" power.  He has found a number of ways to take a junk-yard 5.3 or 6.0, add heads and a camshaft, slap a supercharger on top or a bunch of nitrous and made 800 or 900 HP.  No work to the bottom end other than checking bearings and scraping the gunk off the top of the pistons from 100,000+ miles.  I know, it isn't a dirt track engine, but the design would support hard use as a racing engine at a much lower cost.  And provide near 410 performance.  Seems like a winner to me.

Thanks, I have seen a few of those and they are fun to watch. There is a guy up here in MN, racerx20 might know who I am talking about that built a 6.2 LS that makes over 700 HP for 4500 bucks and has raced it with NOSA a couple times. HP can be cheap. 

HP is never cheap.

All bilet, aluminum block and heads.  I was sort of impressed until I read that...