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Interesting reading on what things might look like when we ease back into racing. 

https://worldofoutlaws.com/covid-19-resources/

https://worldofoutlaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Spectators_Operational_Procedure_4.23.20.pdf

I don't see weekly tracks surviving following these guidelines.  Most of them aren't big money makers and struggle just to get by.  To cover the cost of incorporating these guidelines they'll have to charge a lot more to get in.  Or pay out a lot less.  Or both.  As a car owner I really can't afford to pay a lot more to run our car and take less pay out for it.  Will people pay much more to attend?  If anything like this becomes required I'm afraid it'll be the beginning of the end of a lot of our local weekly tracks.  

I have never cared for the woo making all of the rules for the sprintcar world to follow. Tracks can survive without the outlaws, can the outlaws survive with only a few tracks catering to them?

The WoO tends to bring many tracks their biggest crowds of the year.  They will find plenty of tracks to "cater" to them.  

When I read the guidelines in the press releases, it sounds to me like they are stating what must happen for their show to go on.  I don't think they are telling the rest of the sprintcar wold what to do------only what must happen if they are to show up at your event and put on a show.  Sounds responsible to me.  

Screw them for following the CDC guidelines, right Beezr2002?   Hey, got an idea for you, much like other posts you've been trashing.  If you don't like the WoO, don't go to a WoO show, and don't comment on a thread about them.  ????

Easy there Nancy take a motrin. I'm disussing racing stuff on a racing site. I live in kind of a hotbed of winged 410 racing the outlaws visit here 3 or 4 times a year and its a big deal to some just not me. I've been to 3 outlaw races in the past 5-6 years, normally when they come in I find other plans. You have to understand that many tracks can't afford a WoO sanction and never will. States maybe should set standards not the WoO.  I am following this thread because of a previous post about the concern of local tracks. Maybe you should attack that person too, not sure why you are so touchy? Do you have a problem with smaller local tracks surviving? Sorry for bringing a racing disussion into this forum. NOT

Wait is Beezr from central Pa? Now that is a surprise....

WoO has released the statement to the public, obviously other tracks don't need to pay attention to it if they don't want to. 

BUT....it is a darn good guide and set of reccomendations that ANYONE can use!    It's not WoO against the world,  it's all of racing against the Gov't and public opinion right now.     All of racing stands to benefit by re-opening as soon as possible.  Other forms of entertainment are going to be shut down longer (bars, movies, concerts, etc) so there should be a big boon for racing if we can get things going ASAP.  

South central PA, thank you. Where might you be from? I know egras is in Illinois where there aint much sprint car racing, I think maddog might live near Michigan or Wisconsin.and I would like to visit Angel Park and meet KO when I get up that way.

    Ooof!  If that's what they think it will take to ease back into racing, maybe it's a good time to wait.

I think they need to make sure they get the big money races in if at all possible. Knoxville, Royal, Jackson Nats and Grove Open. That's almost $2m in prize money and if they can work it out would benefit everyone. 
 

But given the guidelines in that document, the only tracks that can make any money sanctioning a WoO race with using the 6 feet between fans rule is Knoxville and Eldora. And that's with a normal $10k to win show, not a big show. 

As I read on another racing site, this is "the first swing of the bat" as far as getting local racing moving again. I don't mind that as long as others in the racing community have their turn at bat. Yeah I'm still pissed about the outlaws banning big blocks.lol.

They're still a little ways off but I wonder if the big shows will happen this year.  Will Eldora be able to run their big shows and what will Knoxville do about 40k people in town?

Exactly how I feel. The small facilities will not be able to host a woo race with 1000 ppl in the stands. Kville and eldora can be filled to 25% capacity and it could work. The big  money races aren't going to happen this year because they need a full house to be able to pay the purses.

Knoxville Natioanls attendee since '95
Favorite Tracks...River Cities, Knoxville, Cedar Lake
Favorite Drivers...S.Kinser, T.Kaeding, K.Madsen, S.Smith
Proud Canadian 

Unfortunately I highly doubt the Nationals will happen, it sucks but that's the reality of this damn virus. I do hope Knoxville can work out a schedule with limited fans in attendance. Maybe some smaller shows could happen

Knoxville Natioanls attendee since '95
Favorite Tracks...River Cities, Knoxville, Cedar Lake
Favorite Drivers...S.Kinser, T.Kaeding, K.Madsen, S.Smith
Proud Canadian 

It is, isn't it.  

I was simply defending the WoO's right to set their own guidelines for holding a race with their sanctioning body.  States are setting the standards with recommendations from the CDC and the WoO clearly stated they were going to follow guidelines of the CDC.  So, please explain where your attack on the WoO was warranted?  It's funny you say I am touchy.  WoO puts out a responsible plan for returning to racing and you are the "not in my backyard" guy.  

By the way, I am very concerned about the local tracks.  Many of the local tracks in my area have bar none, the biggest race of the year when the Outlaws come to town.  

These are decent guidelines tracks can adopt without having to put a lot of work to building them. Gotta get the realization that if you wanna race somewhat soon you'll need to follow everything the authorities are telling you or you'll get shut down in a blink of an eye. Hopefully as months go by and we get deeper into summer more and more of the restrictions can get lifted.

OK Dick, where did I attack the outlaws? Quote that shit jackass. I responded to a post about local tracks surviving during this deal. You attacked my opinion. I know your kind comrade.

Agreed, some of them are a little common sense and in some cases, probably should be done anyway. Back in 2009 during when I was a manager at one of the hockey rinks here in town, we had to deal with one of the outbreaks (think it was H1NI) as well. We had to do it more out of necessity because a lot of the traveling teams & organizations were getting choosey with where they went. Some of the organizations were pulling out of tournaments depending on what the rinks were doinig to sanitize and keep their facilities clean. One of our bigger high school tournaments we did check the temps of each patron (well we let the local paramedics do it) due to the growing concern from several schools and parents. Myself & another manager were responsible in purchasing the supplies needed & it was realitively inexpensive compared to losing the revenue on the tournament.

And the reality of the situation is exactly what you said, if they wanna race soon they will need to follow everything the authorities are telling them. Some may not like it but some are going to complain and throw a fit about everything no matter what just like a child who doesn't get a toy at the store.

It is refreshing to see them think with their head over thier wallet.

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