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Right now Ohio is just putting restrictions on indoor events, however by the time next Friday rolls around all

gatherings of 1000+ will likely be banned. 

I responded to this thread and a number of threads on Facebook about "would the coronavirus disrupt the racing season?"---to paraphrase.

I responded politely, and pretty confidently that yes, yes it will affect the sprint car season.  I got called all kinds of names, had my political stance bashed (somehow understanding virus outbreaks determines how you vote?), and got called a sissy, pu@#, and every other name in the book----by simple giving my opinion that this would indeed have an affect---at least early on----on the sprint car season.

Well, here we are.  Anyone have any questions now?  Seems like you all went silent on us.  If you would like some true information and are still wondering why all of the "over reaction" please see the crisis at the hospitals in hard hit countries.  Please don't get your news from Facebook memes or at your local tavern.  Do some research and make an educated comment next time about a situation like this.   I know, we're all really tough red-blooded Americans and this is just another way for big government to control us.  No.  No it's not.  

Now, as sprint car fans------not Republicans or Democrats------I hope we are all smelling methanol again in short order and we can put this behind us. 

I think people are dismissing it unfortunately because a lot of people have become so politically driven that they make decisions based on their said political bias. If the politican(s) they like say either it is a hoax or if it is going to be the second coming of the black plague they go with what they say. It is turned into a political issue like a lot of things when it is not a political issue, its a health, human and scientific issue. Virus', biology, and science do not give a shit who you're voting for or what party you're for. Also, it seems because of the political thing that the common thing to do whenever there is an actual issue going on in the world is to say the "media" is blowing it out of proportion. One of the best things I have done the past 2years was to cut cable and just stream services so I do not watch news outlets such as CNN, Fox News, or MSNBC. With everything that has happened the past 2 years I can tell you its not media that blows things out of proportion or loses their mind, it is people. Reading social media posts all I see is this political party says this, the other political party says that, politican A says its blown out of proportion, politican B says we will die, guy A on facebook says its a conspiracy to get xyz, guy B on twitter says we need to lock ourselves in the basement for a month, everyone else follows.

Meanwhile you have the CDC, World Health Organization, and other scientists whose job it is to look out for the general welfare for the public and do not have any type of agenda. If they tell you to wash your hands, cover your mouth, stay home if sick, take certain precautions to help your body, etc do it. They are essentially paid by us to and do not get any benefit by creating mass panic because there is always going to be some sort of health issue in the country or world. It does them no good to shift resources to 1 thing unless it absolutely need to but you have plenty of people who try to sound smart that believe its a conspiracy, or say "well if its going to happen its going to happen." That's like saying well if I'm going to get hit by a bus its going to happen so why should I bother looking both ways before I cross the street.  

I responded to this thread and a number of threads on Facebook about "would the coronavirus disrupt the racing season?"---to paraphrase.

I responded politely, and pretty confidently that yes, yes it will affect the sprint car season.  I got called all kinds of names, had my political stance bashed (somehow understanding virus outbreaks determines how you vote?), and got called a sissy, pu@#, and every other name in the book----by simple giving my opinion that this would indeed have an affect---at least early on----on the sprint car season.

Well, here we are.  Anyone have any questions now?  Seems like you all went silent on us.  If you would like some true information and are still wondering why all of the "over reaction" please see the crisis at the hospitals in hard hit countries.  Please don't get your news from Facebook memes or at your local tavern.  Do some research and make an educated comment next time about a situation like this.   I know, we're all really tough red-blooded Americans and this is just another way for big government to control us.  No.  No it's not.  

Now, as sprint car fans------not Republicans or Democrats------I hope we are all smelling methanol again in short order and we can put this behind us. 

When this thread was first started, I did not know what impact it would have at first. I don't have the luxury (or in some cases it actually is a luxury) of having cable or the most modern streaming services currently. Therefore I do not watch news networks and with it being an election year I made the decision to just skip over most of the news since it would be about the canidates. I can do my own research on them. I obviously had seen the virus referenced just by glancing but I really found out more through work as the company I work for is a global compay that does business in China and has China vendors for that business. We were in the middle of the regulatory project when this broke out so we had heard a little about it but as most humans do, unless its right in front of you, you don't worry about it.

I think it was just mentioned that the virus was in the states when the thread was started. My intial thoughts were based on previous virus' that we have had to deal with in the past like H1NI and others like it. Our society has become one that is basically reactive instead of proactive (positives and negatives of that). I thought it would be more of "yes I know its out there but i am going to live my life until I get it," because that is how "we have always done it."

When it did hit the states I looked at the CDC site as well as other medical expert sites and they said the same thing risk was low, wash your hands, cover your mouth, stay home if sick, see a doctor if sick. They never said it was a hoax and not a big deal nor did they say that we were all going to die and really neither did media because I didn't watch the media. However on facebook a billion memes and people posting opinions were saying all of that because they heard whatever politican they like say the same thing. Then the arguing came with both sides and I didn't understand how something scientific and about the health of human beings became about what party you were for? I have come to realize that a lot of people in our country have now made everything about being a Democrat or Republican, Liberal or Conservative, Donald Trump Mitch McConnel Ted Cruz or Joe Biden Bernie Sanders Elizabeth Warren instead of what is right or wrong or for the greater good. When I read comments sections about things that medical experts post I see someone from both sides saying it is the other Parties fault. It has nothing to do about politics but we have now reached a moment that everything is about that. I think on Monday it was said by leading medical experts here in central Ohio that if this thing spreads to a certain percent, they do not have room in hospitals to treat everyone with any issue. Yeah you may not die from the Virus but you could end up in the hospital because of breathing complications, fever, and dehydration. Yeah, more people will probably die in a car wreck this year than the virus, but that number will be higher because some of those people who are in critical condition may not be able to be treated at the closest hospital because there isn't enough personnel or room. That is a real reality and why things are being cancelled.

I responded to this thread and a number of threads on Facebook about "would the coronavirus disrupt the racing season?"---to paraphrase.

I responded politely, and pretty confidently that yes, yes it will affect the sprint car season.  I got called all kinds of names, had my political stance bashed (somehow understanding virus outbreaks determines how you vote?), and got called a sissy, pu@#, and every other name in the book----by simple giving my opinion that this would indeed have an affect---at least early on----on the sprint car season.

Well, here we are.  Anyone have any questions now?  Seems like you all went silent on us.  If you would like some true information and are still wondering why all of the "over reaction" please see the crisis at the hospitals in hard hit countries.  Please don't get your news from Facebook memes or at your local tavern.  Do some research and make an educated comment next time about a situation like this.   I know, we're all really tough red-blooded Americans and this is just another way for big government to control us.  No.  No it's not.  

Now, as sprint car fans------not Republicans or Democrats------I hope we are all smelling methanol again in short order and we can put this behind us. 

Other than make a couple of jokes here and there, I haven't been one of the ones calling anyone names.   That said I will disagree with you a little.   We've known about this thing for 2 months or more, and to date only around 39 people have died from this in the U.S.    Meanwhile, 10 years ago we had well over 10,000 deaths from swine flu in this country and a few hundred thousand infected and I don't remember any pro sports leagues suspending their seasons or any concert festivals or races getting cancelled.   Why wasn't this much media attention and "overabundance of concern" happening back then?   Doesn't that make you wonder at least a little bit?  No the virus is definetly not a hoax, but this is definetly way overhyped.   

Like everyone else, I learned last night that Tom Hanks and his wife have the virus.   I also noticed that they didn't say they were in the hospital fighting for their lives.   They're going to let it run it's course and return to their normal lives.   

Other than make a couple of jokes here and there, I haven't been one of the ones calling anyone names.   That said I will disagree with you a little.   We've known about this thing for 2 months or more, and to date only around 39 people have died from this in the U.S.    Meanwhile, 10 years ago we had well over 10,000 deaths from swine flu in this country and a few hundred thousand infected and I don't remember any pro sports leagues suspending their seasons or any concert festivals or races getting cancelled.   Why wasn't this much media attention and "overabundance of concern" happening back then?   Doesn't that make you wonder at least a little bit?  No the virus is definetly not a hoax, but this is definetly way overhyped.   

Like everyone else, I learned last night that Tom Hanks and his wife have the virus.   I also noticed that they didn't say they were in the hospital fighting for their lives.   They're going to let it run it's course and return to their normal lives.   

You guys need to stop using the official US numbers as proof it's not so bad. The US has been putrid at getting tests out and testing people for the virus, a failure and embarrassing response from the government. It's quite likely there's at least 10X infected people as being reported. 
 

All these tracks/series trying to race are gonna get stopped by state and local governments. Just an unneeded risk of spreading. 

You're correct Dryslick----you never called anyone names that I can remember.  Most of the completely uncalled for responses were on the Facebook pages.  I just stopped replying.

The reason the H1N1 did not cause this much concern is they realized the hospitalization rate was well under 1% for the Swine flu.  This is not the case here----and I'm not talking about U.S. numbers.  I'm talking about what happened in countries where they waited WAY too long to do the measures we are doing.  They waiting until there were masses of people showing up at the doctor's office.  We are doing the right thing.  It is going to seem overhyped if this works---that's the unfortunate part.  It seems we all feel comfortable in our little corner of the world as long as it's someone else suffering.  There are plenty of horrible reports coming out of other free countries----without our media in the mix----stating the dire situation facing the health care industry.  

The moves made over the last 2 days should have happened about 7-10 days ago once we saw the ramifications of doing nothing overseas.  I think this will greatly help our chances of avoiding a full out medical disaster.  

Take care---we SHOULD be racing again soon!!!

NCAA March madness will be played in front of "NO FANS" both mens and womens teams.

Rod

Just saw this

Big 12, Big Ten Tournaments -- closed to public,

MAC, Big West Tournaments -- closed to public

Ivy League Tournament -- canceled

CollegeBasketball Invitational -- canceled

but the ACC, Big East, SEC, Pac-12 Tournaments -- fans allowed, go figure

Many Canadian hockey leagues  in the age groups if 15 to 20 yr old players have postponed all games until further notice. Heard rumblings about the NHL and other American junior leagues also. Most Canadian leagues are into playiffs now.

I heard some doctor on TV say death rate was 10 to 20 times worse than the flu. So I checked it out. It differs in various areas & age brackets, but he's pretty much right:

Death rate

The death rate from seasonal flu is typically around 0.1% in the U.S., according to The New York Times. 

The death rate for COVID-19 appears to be higher than that of the flu. 

In the study published Feb. 18 in the China CDC Weekly, researchers found a death rate from COVID-19 to be around 2.3% in mainland China. Another study of about 1,100 hospitalized patients in China, published Feb. 28 in the New England Journal of Medicine, found that the overall death rate was slightly lower, around 1.4%.

Still, the death rate for COVID-19 appears to vary by location and an individual's age, among other factors. For instance, in Hubei Province, the epicenter of the outbreak, the death rate reached 2.9%; in other provinces of China, that rate was just 0.4%, according to the China CDC Weekly study. In addition, older adults have been hit the hardest. The death rate soars to 14.8% in those 80 and older; among those ages 70 to 79, the COVID-19 death rate in China seems to be about 8%; it’s 3.6% for those ages 60 to 69; 1.3% for 50 to 59; 0.4% for the age group 40 to 49; and just 0.2% for people ages 10 to 39. No deaths in children under 9 have been reported. 

Though the death rate for COVID-19 is unclear, most research suggests it is higher than that of the seasonal flu.