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RodinCanada
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December 07, 2017 at 11:00:21 PM
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Just wondering who can talk to who at a woo?

I see drivers wear earbuds but are they speakers or just ear plugs? Do drivers talk to crew during a race? Crew to drivers? Or officials to drivers for line ups etc?


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kossuth
December 08, 2017 at 07:25:30 AM
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Posted By: RodinCanada on December 07 2017 at 11:00:21 PM

Just wondering who can talk to who at a woo?

I see drivers wear earbuds but are they speakers or just ear plugs? Do drivers talk to crew during a race? Crew to drivers? Or officials to drivers for line ups etc?



Basically the earbuds are speakers connected to a one way radio receiver which all drivers are tuned to the exact same frequency. The frequency in question is used by the officials for official to driver communicationS, that’s it. Driver cant talk to anybody etc. 



Keyboard Jockey
December 08, 2017 at 08:35:32 AM
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Posted By: RodinCanada on December 07 2017 at 11:00:21 PM

Just wondering who can talk to who at a woo?

I see drivers wear earbuds but are they speakers or just ear plugs? Do drivers talk to crew during a race? Crew to drivers? Or officials to drivers for line ups etc?



I would highly suggest listening to this #OpenRed podcast. They put a recording device on Mike Hess at the world finals a couple years ago and you will hear everything Mike says on the radio from two nights of racing. To some this is very boring but to others this is a great lisiten!

http://www.woosprint.com/news/open-red-podcast/4187-open-red-ep-23-driver-radio-audio




RodinCanada
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December 08, 2017 at 08:50:39 AM
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Thx. So all open red adjustments are based on the crew chief watching the car and a short consultation with the driver when the car actually stops rolling.

Is that correct?


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Keyboard Jockey
December 08, 2017 at 09:16:28 AM
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Posted By: RodinCanada on December 08 2017 at 08:50:39 AM

Thx. So all open red adjustments are based on the crew chief watching the car and a short consultation with the driver when the car actually stops rolling.

Is that correct?



To clarify, #OpenRed is the podcast for the world of outlaws. Mike Hess is the flag man for the WoO and does all of the radio communication with the drivers. 

 

On a red flag stop that gets opened up it usually goes like this; the crew guys run like hell to the car to unplug/turn off rear tire bleeders, start adding air to the tires, and open the fuel cell to put in 2-5 gallons of fuel. If it is a red flag for a fuel stop they may put 5-10 gallons in depending on how much race has gone by.  By that time the crew chief has debriefed qiuckly with the driver (30 seconds max) needs to convert what the driver is telling them into an action plan of where to put weight in or take weight out of the car (done by adjustment bolts on torsion stops), Ocasionally you will see a shock change or shock adjustment, wing adjustment, or other minor adjustment somewhere on the car. You would probably be suprised on how little is changed on 60-70% of the cars during an open red. If guys are making huge changes they probably swung and missed on the setup so they are probably out to lunch to begin with. 



RodinCanada
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December 08, 2017 at 11:48:37 AM
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Thanks. Very helpful. I understand wings can be adjusted while racing so what type of wing adjustment would need to be made at a stop?


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Keyboard Jockey
December 08, 2017 at 11:55:46 AM
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Posted By: RodinCanada on December 08 2017 at 11:48:37 AM

Thanks. Very helpful. I understand wings can be adjusted while racing so what type of wing adjustment would need to be made at a stop?



Wings can be adjusted front to back or back to front with the in car wing slider. The wing tree angle is adjusted while the car is stopped. 



Todd Hoffman
December 08, 2017 at 06:04:49 PM
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Posted By: Keyboard Jockey on December 08 2017 at 09:16:28 AM

To clarify, #OpenRed is the podcast for the world of outlaws. Mike Hess is the flag man for the WoO and does all of the radio communication with the drivers. 

 

On a red flag stop that gets opened up it usually goes like this; the crew guys run like hell to the car to unplug/turn off rear tire bleeders, start adding air to the tires, and open the fuel cell to put in 2-5 gallons of fuel. If it is a red flag for a fuel stop they may put 5-10 gallons in depending on how much race has gone by.  By that time the crew chief has debriefed qiuckly with the driver (30 seconds max) needs to convert what the driver is telling them into an action plan of where to put weight in or take weight out of the car (done by adjustment bolts on torsion stops), Ocasionally you will see a shock change or shock adjustment, wing adjustment, or other minor adjustment somewhere on the car. You would probably be suprised on how little is changed on 60-70% of the cars during an open red. If guys are making huge changes they probably swung and missed on the setup so they are probably out to lunch to begin with. 



One more clarification... Mike Hess is the WoO "Race Director", not flagman.  He sits high above, usually alongside scoring, overseeing everything on the track.

 





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