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If the list of drivers listed in each class on Knoxville's website holds true once the season starts, it looks like 13 total rookies in all.

I don't remember another time where there were this many to start the season off. It's good to see some promising young ones move up in classes. All classes are really competitive but this year it looks like the 360 class may be the best it's been in some time. 

Looking forward to next week! LETS GO RACCCCING

Keep It Real

Still the toughest weekly 410 competition of any track in the country. I did a cursory glance at things and while there is a high number of rookies some are "division rookies" (i.e. Devin Kline and McKenna Haase) that while yes are rookies in a new engine class aren't full on "rookies" per se. Nitpicking I guess, but it is still cool to see them moving up and some "new" rookies in the 305 class. Good stuff YungWun, thanks for pointing that out!

agreed, I cant dog on any driver willing to step up without huge amounts of success in one class, at one point it becomes a personal goal, and once you get that,  all chatter,  is just that... "chatter"  on the other note,  making a change from CID isnt just that, it is a huge change in cars that weight less than 1600lbs,  maybe some dont realize  but increasing 150 hp and loosing 50lbs, is a major change in the handeling of these cars, its just indiscribeable , unless you have a reputable crewman that as experiance at the 410 levels it can be a long season, everything that worked with a 305-360 does not work with the next class up We experianced a huge dissapointment in chassis settup when we went to a different class , everything we thought we had a grip on went out he window ..  sometimes whith the less ponies and weight you thought you were in trouble,  when you gain the ponies and less weight the car will almost drive itself out of problems, NOW,  on the same topic, it will get you into trouble twice as quick, and the consequences are always a learning experiance....

Knoxvilles safety crew and the history of the track are second to none.The 1/2 mile usually can be a little safer also and it is good to see them getting new or current drivers moving up.I still think the 305s would be better as Racesavers to cut costs of what should be a starter class but it seems to be working with higher dollar engines.The current promoter is also doing a good job.

My guess is we'll see how many 305's actually exist in IA on Saturday nights with Boone running RaceSavers and Knoxville running 305's / Crate 305's (I think most people would be surprised at the # of crate 305's running at Knoxville).

Fans can pay the same $15 to watch Racesavers and some fender classes at Boone as they do to watch 410's, 360's and 305's at Knoxville this season as well and as I recall, Matt Moro ran a RaceSaver 305 at Knoxville on a couple of occasions last season and seemed up to speed.

Vande77 correct me if I am wrong but I think what Matt and Chris ran at Knoxville as far as crate engines had a cubic inch advantage to make up for all the money being put into competitive Knoxville 305s.I understand a good competitive Racesaver 305  is around $10K a Knoxville 305 is more than twice that.I know of Micro Sprints that have $19K in 600cc to run for $500 or less.Thats the main reason the average racer has went to Racesaver.Boone will be better racing due to track lenght.Actually I thought opening up the ASCS head rule defeated the original concept but seems to not be a problem just less illegal heads.I love racing just think the best value is watching from the grandstand but not as much fun. Knoxville is the Sprint Car Capitol for a reason.Rookies are the future of any racing series.People love you the first time you win and boo you if you rise to the top.

Im not 100% sure about the specifics of the 305's but understand there is two completly different engines, and $$, quite honestly , we moved into 410 for the sake of rule changes on heads inj,ci ect ect , our local tracks struggle for cars and its a run what ya brung type engine deal, so its a completly different dynamic here locally for us, rahter than places like knox ect   it seems the budget racer runs a class with specific rules, in the blink of the eye the rules can change making your engine program completly off the chart or illegal all together, and how does that promot a bugetable class when upon freshening or seasons,  I may have to spend $5000 or $10000 in updates? , either to remain competitive or legal?, now the big kicker here is,  which track will pay a purse that is effective to the racer, regardless,  the "305" was a great idea ,  so was the "360" , will we be seeing a v-6 class after the 305's have priced themselves out of worhtyness of competing in that class? ,  look at a set of headers for a 305 or a injection, its already not adding up to the purse they run for IMO.  crazy, but thats just the way it turns after four or five years a class gets established and someone finds a nitch..