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Port Royal Speedway ups Tuscarora 50 winner's share to $50,000 in 2017

.... that's a shame ......................... the Wizz isn't coming to 2018

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Big deal! $50,000.00 to win, drops to $12,000.00 for second and "crumbs" for starting. I for one am over the hype of the big top money. 

Forgot to add that I do think the Tuscarora 50 is and always has been a great race!

I can see this race paying $1,000 to take the green.

Steve O'Neal should be promoter of the year in my mind.

I don't know. I looked it up, a couple of years ago total purse was $45,000 & they paid $600 to start. With total now $100,000, minus a $38,000 raise for winner, that leaves $17,000 extra to be divided among everyone else (100,000- 45,000- 38,000=17,000) No reason they couldn't pay $1,000 to start....

This would all be easier & make more sense if I could find actual purse breakdown.... I couldn't

Are you kidding me? 12k for second is more than almost every other race in Pa pays to win! I agree that the top heavy purses are not good for the local small budget racers but the WINNER should get the Lions share of the purse. If you are racing with a goal of making it into the A main, you might want to park it for the weekend. I'm always surprised you get paid any money for finishing outside of the top 10, they should get a liberal Clinton participation certificate to put on the fridge at home. "Great job son you finished last today and I can't believe you didn't get a huge check, instead of us trying harder to compete we will get on social media and bitch because the track doesn't give big bucks for finishing last"

Maybe they can just draw pills for finishing position so the worst team and driver have a chance at the 50k, and the hardest working team with a great driver can finish last.

Fortunately the drivers don't feel the same way you do, if they did the Troy Frakers and George Streakers of our Sprint car community would just quit, maybe they feel like they got exactly what their performance warranted, tow money.

I've always found the top heavy argument to be laughable. As if there are dozens of sprint car races paying a 100k total purse.

I totally agree with the principal behind what you're saying. I HATE participation trophies, safe spaces and all of the other PC bullshit that has transformed America from a society of hardworking winners to a society of self righteous spoiled pussies who can't handle it when they don't get their own way. But, I do like the idea of throwing a decent amount of money in the back half of the purse because it makes it more attractive for teams like Brian Brown & Bill Balog to tow east for the weekend and try their hand against our locals. I definitely the think the winner should always get rewarded just like you do but it's nice when the teams can still get a something substantial to put back in their operation if they are good enough to make the show. By no means do I think mediocrity should be awarded, but I do think it's best for our sport if purses are structured with a little more back through the field. Not a lot, just a little. Enough to make it worth it for a team to tow out of their home territory and try their hand.

You pretty much summed up what I was thinking and meaning. AND.....IF StaggerLee THINKS MAKING THE A MAIN IN A FIELD LIKE THE TUSCARORA 5O IS THE SAME AS RECIEVING A PARTICIPATION TROPHY HE NEEDS TO STRAP HIS ASS IN AND GIVE IT A GO! I have news for him.....every driver's first goal is to make the A Main, and the second goal is to get as good of starting spot as they can. I have never said the top shouldn't have the lions share. I just don't think it has to be 50% of the $$$$$$$. I think track owners and promoters are going to learn that the fields are going to need to be built from the bottom up, not the top down, as the numbers of teams continue to decrease in numbers around the country. 

I thought you were from the Midwest? You come to Port often do ya? You can spin what I said any way you want. If you don't have a team capable of competing for the win then you don't deserve much in return, so you might as well park it till next week when you make the A because only 22 410's showed up.

I find it hard to believe that Brian Brown or anyone from that faraway makes their decision to travel based on what 20th place is paying at the Tuscarora 50, I'm sure Blazer ate are Brownies house this week so he will know better, then again Blazer seems to more about everything on all corners of the world of Sprint car racing. Cmon Blazer tell us like it is, you have time now that your not racing and crewing on the Outlaw Allstars and NSL tours. Please lay your knowledge on us.

Not sure where you guys come up with this "winner take all/losers get nothing/no participation trophy" idiocy but I'm sure there will be well over 40 good cars at this race and half of them won't make the show. It costs what an average of $1500 or more a night to run a 410 sprint car? There's absolutely nothing wrong with paying good start money for a race such as this. I don't see a whole purse breakdown but I'd bet the start money will be pretty good. Nothing wrong with paying 50G to win or 12G for 2nd either. Good job Port Royal! 

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You can not simultaneously pay more money back through the field and not reward mediocrity.  By definition that is exactly what you are doing.

Why do you guys always act like Sprint car racing is in its infancy. Top heavy purses are not new, they are the norm, always have been always will be. It is done to get the BEST drivers to show up not the MOST drivers. 50k to win gets the best drivers to show up to compete for the WIN not to finish 2nd 3rd or so on. We get so hung up on car counts, 24 cars start the feature the rest go home, so as long as that 50k gets the best cars to the track it's done it's job. So far it hasn't killed the sport. sorry if I over react when I read a self appointed know it all like Blazer who takes shots at a track that just increased their purse by over $50k for their biggest race. This track has done more for fans and drivers in the last 6 or so years than all the other PA tracks combined. If this top heavy purse is so bad I guess we will see by all the cars that don't show up this year right? Yeah right. 

Again , you act as if these guys are forced to race and spend the  $1500! They choose to race, they choose to pay 1500 knowing full well that they may wad it up in hot laps. 

And now you want to spin my comments into winner takes all loser gets nothing. Why should a race paying 50k to win have to pay more to the losers? Why should the winners earnings have any bearing on what 24th gets? 

Please explain how to build a field from the bottom up? Racing is about trying to win and be the best, so I'm guessing your plan is to try to make losing so attractive that winning becomes less of the focus? Here is your chance Blazer, tell all the promoters how to build a field from the bottom up so we can save sprint car racing.

Agreed. Everybody on that track is risking their lives & spending lots of $$$, providing us with entertainment. Of course winners should get the lion's share, but all the "also rans" & small teams should get as much a they can to make it worthwhile. Or else they'll stop showing up....as we see every year

I don't agree that all you need is 24 cars. If everyone makes the A, heats are pretty much meaningless

STFU

Hats off to Port Royal. Amazing race for Central PA.

And kudos to them for having the balls and business sense to try it without wasting a lot of the money on an Outlaw sanction fee instead.

 
 
 
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Strong month of September in PA next year.  Two $50k to win races, with the Dirt Classic and a potential WoO race at Lernerville sandwiched in between.  Talk about a second month of money.  Impressive.