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Topic: Ashley Force beats her dad, first female funny car winner, point leader
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cubicdollars
April 28, 2008 at 09:09:13 AM
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Ashley Force first female FC winner; Brown, Edwards, Hines also score

Ashley Force etched her name into the annals of drag racing history when she defeated her father, John, in the final round at the 28th annual Summit Racing Equipment NHRA Southern Nationals to become the first woman to win an NHRA Funny Car title. The final was somewhat anticlimactic when John, who was seeking his 1,000th career round-win, struck the tires immediately; Ashley would have been tough to beat as she sailed to a 4.837, the second quickest time of the day.
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Joining Force in the Atlanta Dragway winner’s circle were Antron Brown (Top Fuel), Mike Edwards (Pro Stock), and Andrew Hines (Pro Stock Motorcycle). Brown’s impressive first year in Top Fuel continued with his second win in his third straight final. Edwards picked up his first win since Dallas 2006 and Hines capped a dominant weekend with a 6.946 run that beat Chip Ellis.

 

 

 

They don't even know how to spell sprint car much less chromoly...http://www.ycmco.com


laudarevsonhunt
April 28, 2008 at 09:16:43 AM
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John's .170 reaction time tells the story.



"Strange Wings"(Savatage
April 28, 2008 at 12:04:33 PM
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he let her win.



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April 28, 2008 at 01:24:13 PM
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Posted By: "Strange Wings"(Savatage on April 28 2008 at 12:04:33 PM

he let her win.



not to belittle john force but it sure seems like he gave his girl her first win. i can't say i blame him if in fact that is true as she is leading in points and the win helped her in that respect. also i can't really hold it against him for possibly taking the opportunity to give his girl her first win. we know john is a fierce competitor, but he is also a dad and a team owner. it seems john took one for the team as well as for his kid. i still find it hard to blame the guy. he has said that he was not there for his kids as much as he should have been when they were growing up. maybe this was his way of giving something to her. she was faster than he was in the semi-finals so it is not like she was not holding her own.also it got the pressure off her to get her first win.



WFOB_0
April 28, 2008 at 01:48:38 PM
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She was fast as hell all day and showed it in the finals with the 2nd fastest run of the day. I don't think Daddy had anything for her in the finals unless it was a perfect run, but of course, he let her win... we're talking about one of the most competitive persons, if not the most, in all of motorsports. Ashley deserves SOME credit here...

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same
April 28, 2008 at 03:07:36 PM
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she earned her way to the finals, what happened there is immaterial. the irl had good press for a female winner, so why not the nhra?



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She was fast as hell all day and showed it in the finals with the 2nd fastest run of the day. I don't think Daddy had anything for her in the finals unless it was a perfect run, but of course, he let her win... we're talking about one of the most competitive persons, if not the most, in all of motorsports. Ashley deserves SOME credit here...

BIG J



again in no way am i trying to take anything away from ashley, as she was fast all day and as i said before was faster than her dad in the semi. just noting that john was fast all day as well and had gone down the track all day with no problem. it is not uncommon in the sport for teams to have one car lay down when matched up against a team mate. ashley is leading in points, the win was worth another 20 to her. as a team owner john may have thought it in the best interest to get all the points for his driver while they could. it was surprising that john could not even get off the line after he had run so well all day. they even had that audio where he was asking from the cockpit before the run to make sure his car was not going to blow the hides off at the line. then he went out and struck them. lol. if you didn't see that one coming well.....

after what the team and john have been through in the last year it is good to see them having some good days.



filtalr
April 28, 2008 at 05:53:48 PM
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I think John choked from the pressure. He knew Ashley was gonna whip the old man... ;)


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henry chinaski
April 28, 2008 at 06:31:47 PM
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This message was edited on April 28, 2008 at 06:32:50 PM by henry chinaski
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Posted By: "Strange Wings"(Savatage on April 28 2008 at 12:04:33 PM

he let her win.



They never even showed a replay of her final run during the telecast (or at least what I saw). I thought immediately when viewing this deal that he laid down for her, when does John Force not try to peddle a funny car??? I am happy for Ashley but in my opinion it wasnt the way she probably wanted to get her first victory. I am a John Force fan and an Ashley Force fan so all in all it was a good weekend for the team just the finish was a little more than suspect.
Cheers!

brian26
April 28, 2008 at 06:34:15 PM
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It was gonna happen anyway, earned or not. 2nd quick time of the day? I'd say 'earned'.




brian26
April 28, 2008 at 06:36:54 PM
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True verve is getting mad when it is realized that the win was given, and then digging in and whipping ass to undo the perceived wrong. It was gonna happen




Railbird_1
April 28, 2008 at 06:54:55 PM
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This message was edited on April 28, 2008 at 07:27:11 PM by Railbird_1

With the resources given to her, it was just a matter of time until she won. She had a few runner up finishes.

A lot of drivers could win in that car. Look at Mike Neff. Funny Car is about crew chief and set up way more than driver ability. It's not like it used to be.

In sprint car, you need a great driver who can compensate for a set up that isn't right on the money, not discounting a good crew chief or a great set up.

I don't have the respect I once had for drag racing.


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spot1
April 29, 2008 at 07:16:45 AM
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same has it that she is the first female winner in the NHRA.......not so. Ever hear of Shirley Muldowney?? Yeah, she drove a top fuel dragster as did Shelly Anderson. They both won a lot of races.



chorsey2
April 29, 2008 at 07:40:38 AM
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Posted By: spot1 on April 29 2008 at 07:16:45 AM

same has it that she is the first female winner in the NHRA.......not so. Ever hear of Shirley Muldowney?? Yeah, she drove a top fuel dragster as did Shelly Anderson. They both won a lot of races.



Ashley was the first Female Funny Car Driver. The ones you are talking about are Top Fuel Dragsters



smokerudrinkplayeruget
April 29, 2008 at 09:33:59 AM
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Make em turn at the end of the straight-a-way and I'll think about being impressed. Much ado over absolutely nothing..........Drag racing! it's a DRAG!......losers.......



cubicdollars
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Posted By: spot1 on April 29 2008 at 07:16:45 AM

same has it that she is the first female winner in the NHRA.......not so. Ever hear of Shirley Muldowney?? Yeah, she drove a top fuel dragster as did Shelly Anderson. They both won a lot of races.



Shirley Muldowney made the finals in a funny car but never won one before switching to top fuel. She went on to become the sport's first three time top fuel champion. Cha Cha's best run in a funny car was a 6.63, 219 mph in the early 1970's. Ashley Force is the first woman to win a final in a funny car....and she did it with a 4.837, 320.36 mph!


The History of Women Fuel Funny Car Drivers

By Danny White

The times were the rebellious sixties. It was a time of social upheaval around the world. There was a changing of the guard to the way of more politically correct social thinking. This wave of both forced and accepted social revolution worked its way into drag racing, too. It was well needed in drag racing as ladies had only been allowed limited roles in drag racing. They were forced to race in stock classes and powder puff eliminators. But the time had come after years of discrimination that ladies had their chance to drive in the �hot classes� as they were called at the time. Racers like Barb Hamilton, Shirley Muldowney, Della Woods, and Paula Murphy became famous and some say infamous for their drag racing abilities and achievements.

The first fuel funny car driver is a matter of dispute, but the first female funny car driver is not in question. In 1966, Paula Murphy, AKA �Mrs. STP,� became that female star. She had shown she could drive NASCAR Grand National cars, Indy Cars, and finally a blown fuel funny car. The first "Mrs. STP" 66 Mustang was a scary sight to behold, much less drive. The car was tuned by "Fat Jack" Bynum as were the rest of her funny cars.

Paula drove funny cars from 1966 to 1972, a stint that ended after a tour of England in her Duster. She sold the Duster to the British Hounddog team, but not before running a best time of 6.67, 218. Paula was never a major national event threat, but was a very popular match race attraction. She broke her back in a rocket car accident in 1973. Paula returned to drag race in a Z/Stock Eliminator in 1974. Her tour of the world with Johnny Parsons also cemented her fame in the minds of the non-drag racing community.

Carol Yenter is a forgotten name in most drag racing circles. She mainly raced with her husband in the northwest. The first funny car Carol drove was a converted AA/MSP �62 Corvette. The team raced with a little fuel added in 1966. The beautiful car was a little too stock to be a success in funny car racing. A new car had to be built in order for Carol to stay competitive with the changing times in funny car racing. A new Mustang was built in 1967. It was an all fiberglass beauty complete with a 426 Chrysler for power. The Yenters lost interest in racing and they retired before the car could be broken in. They sold the car to Kenney Goodell, who became a �70s funny car hero.

Bonnie Anderson was a Midwest match racer who drove two early style funny car cars in 1966, the "Tension" Chevy II and the "That Girl" Chevelle. Bonnie was only around in 1966 racing the wild converted "Match Bash" door cars. She showed that she could run low-nines in both cars while match racing mainly in the Illinois area. Bonnie stopped drag racing altogether by 1967.

Della Woods could be called the grand matriarch of female funny car drivers because she was the only one to drive in four decades, the �60s, the �70s, the �80s, and the early �90s. Della started out in a converted Chrysler Super Stock Polara with her brother Bernie Woods to form the "Bernellla" team. A new Charger was built to replace the siblings� Polara in 1968. The new car became Della�s most famous funny car. The full size Charger, dubbed "The Funny Honey," was a match racing sensation.

Della was successful at match racing throughout the early seventies, and then she retired from drag racing the first time. She married and came back to racing in 1981. Della took a couple of years to get her feet wet in the old "Fighting Irish" Trans Am, the only non-Mopar of her career, and in an �82 Charger. Della became a success on the national event level when she ran 5.80s in 1986. She suffered a serious wreck at the end of the year, however. A new car was built and became her final AA/FC. Della made infrequent appearances until the early nineties in the beautiful Dodge Daytona, running a 5.79 best.

The recently retired Queen of Drag Racing, Shirley Muldowney, started her fuel career in funny cars. She stepped up to fuel funny cars from a Top Gas dragster in 1971. Shirley was teamed with her first husband Jack Muldowney. The team bought a car from Connie Kalitta and began her funny car career. The Muldowneys split and Shirley moved to Michigan. A new modern Mustang funny car was built in 1972. In this car she became the first female to reach a national event final in any fuel class.

The Mustang was lost and Shirley was badly burned in a fire at Dragway 42 in Ohio. A Satellite soon replaced the second Mustang. It also was lost to fire, this time at Indy. The team finished her match race dates in loaned car from Don Schumacher. Shirley retired from funny cars after three short but well documented years where she ran a 6.63, 219 best. Tired of fires, Shirley moved to Top Fuel dragsters and became the sport�s first three-time Top Fuel world champion.

By the late seventies, all of the early female nitro drivers had retired or moved to other classes. There were a few females that raced in the late seventies. The "Baby Imp" team of Roberta Schultz was one of them. The team usually ran their car as a BB/FC funny car, but made extra money by tipping the can a little with nitromethane. The Schultz family owned Mustang usually never ran over 25% nitro when they hit the occasional IHRA National Event, NHRA Divisional Event, or match race. The attractive Roberta was more successful in BB/FC, racing as a popular match race and divisional competitor well into the 1980s. Roberta married promoter and fellow racer Tod Mack and the couple became part owners of the International Hot Rod Association for a time.

Rodalyn Knox, AKA "The Country Girl," was a successful �70s funny car driver. She first had success in an injected nitro A/FC Duster on the East Coast Fuel Funny Car Circuit. The team built several cars that gathered many wins throughout the years. When Rodalyn and her husband John decided to step up to AA/FC in 1978, they bought the low slung Chevy Monza from Bill Leavitt and renamed it the "Country Girl." Using the rare Milodon Hemi, the team had a mediocre year in 1979 and decided to quit funny car racing. Rodalyn and John decided to become tractor pullers instead and became very successful at that endeavor.

Bonnie Philson is a Northern California drag racing hero. The team of Bonnie and her husband, the late Leroy Philson, has been around for 30 plus years and counting. In the late 1970s, Bonnie got a chance to drive the "Warlock III" Dodge Aspen AA/FC of Franks Pitts. It is reported that she ran a 7.08 in testing but never raced the car in competition. Philson later raced a TA/FC and now races a one of a kind �58 Chevy Pro Mod.

Jo Ann Reynolds is more famous for being a Top Fuel driver and wife of T/F driver Mike Reynolds. The Utah racer began her fuel career in an AA/Funny Car. The car was the forgotten "Pink Chablis" Vega of Rick McMicheals. The team raced mainly at western state match races in less than ideal conditions on sub-par tracks. Jo Ann later gained a measure of success in the Top Fuel car.

The �80s were a bleak time for female fuel funny drivers. The best was Della Woods. The others mostly were part timers and �one race only� drivers. An example of this was Leslie Prior of Great Britain. She was the daughter of Dave Prior, a respected tuner and owner. Leslie took rides in the family's outdated "Solarport Sunroof's" Pup. The car, running on low doses of nitro, ran mid-sevens. Leslie also drove the car as an AA/Fuel Altered, making her the first female AA/FA driver. The car was later sold and Leslie retired from racing.

Liv Berstad was more famous as one of Europe�s' best T/F racers of the late �80s, running low fives on many occasions. AA/FC racer Rune Fjeld owned the Mobil 1 funny car and the fueler that Liv drove. Liv got her one shot to pilot the Mobil 1 Trans Am funny car, running a shut off 6.67. Live then concentrated on her T/F career and left the funny car driving to her boss.

Paula Martin worked her way up the funny car ladder. She began her funny car career in a Monza that raced in the bracket wars. The car was sold to buy a Regal from Tommy Johnson, Jr. The husband and wife team used the new car as a trainer, running an uneventful year on alcohol in 1987. They stepped up to nitro in �88. The team's debut was spectacular; an explosion destroyed the car. The team regrouped and rebuilt. They teamed with super-tuner Johnny West on Paula�s most successful funny car, eventually running a competitive 5.31. The team was a regular qualifier on the NHRA tour in 1990. The Martin�s split with West and bought a Ford Probe from the defunct Trapper Racing team. Paula drove this car until the late �90s.

Vicky Fanning has become a successful funny car and top fuel driver. She had no previous drag racing experience outside of helping her husband with the "Udder Nonsense" car. Brent convinced her that she could do it and she has. Vicky has raced the "Udder Nonsense" AA/FC, the "American Dream" AA/Funny Truck, the "Bench Racing" AA/FC, the team's TF car, and the funny car with a nostalgia Charger body named the "Nitro Cow". The team has been more of a match race operation than a national event team. Do not count the Fannings out, though� in the "Udder Nonsense" Daytona, Vicky ran a very respectable 5.35, 286.

Cristen Powell made the biggest splash of any female in AA/FC driver in the past 15 years. She has driven four top-flight cars -- national event winning machines owned by Chuck Worsham, John Constanza, Whit Bazemore, and Helen Hoffman. Cristen earned her crossover license in the Worsham's CSK car running a 5.35 clocking. She took over the driving of Constanza's JCIT Firebird, driving it to the fastest ever times by female in a funny car at 4.91. When management problems sidelined the JCIT team, Cristen drove for Helen Hoffman. She took that car into the four-second zone, too, running a 4.95. After a less than amicable split, Cristen finished the year driving for Whit Bazemore in the "Nitro Fish" Camaro. She also ran 4.98 in that low buck car. Cristen Powell has retired from drag racing for the time being.

Two Texas ladies have also taken passes in fuel funny cars in the new decade. Lana Sosenka has driven the family's Pontiac Trans Am called "Mr. Magoo" in testing. Lana, who suffers from Dystonia, has been using the teams Top Fueler and AA/Funny Car to promote awareness of the debilitating disease. Donna Chalk bought the American Dream funny truck from J.R. Wade and has been doing shake down runs in Houston at this point. The Chalks also mounted a 23T body on the car, making Donna the first woman AA/FA pilot in the United States.

From the days of the altered wheelbase A/FX factory cars to the modern carbon fiber fuel coupes, females have been racing them. They have left their mark on the minds of drag racing fans worldwide as they bravely strapped themselves into very dangerous vehicles capable of meltdown at any moment. These pioneers and their exploits will continue to impact the future of drag racing.

http://www.draglist.com/artman/publish/daily_stories/article_1037.shtml

 


 

 

 

They don't even know how to spell sprint car much less chromoly...http://www.ycmco.com


spot1
April 29, 2008 at 09:39:14 AM
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chorsey2, I do know that. Someone earlier posted that Force was the first female NHRA winner. That's what I was referring to. And smoke, with the kind of G-forces they have to put up with, keeping a straight line is more than impressive. There's no way you could do it, losers my ass......



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I sure won't ever say how much talent or skill it takes. but I don't see whats so special about drag racing. I think the cars are impressive - as is the speed. but where is this competitive? if I want speed and power I would just go to the Salt Flats in Utah - - - thats a hell of a lot better than drag. I just can't stand watching it - I don't see where it can even be called racing. But thats just me. I don't like it. it's straight and they never turn left and its on asphalt. the only racing I can get into is circle dirt track. I;d rather be waterboarded than have to attend ro ever watch drag racing. There are sprint car shows with tens of thousands of people - not on TV. and then you get drag racing - with sometimes almost no one there - and this crap gets coverage. I know the things I'm saying can be easily criticized - but I just can't stand it and don't see what is so special about it.


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I sure won't ever say how much talent or skill it takes. but I don't see whats so special about drag racing. I think the cars are impressive - as is the speed. but where is this competitive? if I want speed and power I would just go to the Salt Flats in Utah - - - thats a hell of a lot better than drag. I just can't stand watching it - I don't see where it can even be called racing. But thats just me. I don't like it. it's straight and they never turn left and its on asphalt. the only racing I can get into is circle dirt track. I;d rather be waterboarded than have to attend ro ever watch drag racing. There are sprint car shows with tens of thousands of people - not on TV. and then you get drag racing - with sometimes almost no one there - and this crap gets coverage. I know the things I'm saying can be easily criticized - but I just can't stand it and don't see what is so special about it.



Just go to one of the EVENTS and you'll think differently. While the Knoxville Nationals might border on the EVENT status of a regular NHRA show, nothing else can....

Not sure what you might have viewed to make you think "no one there" but..... Because everyone has pit access a great deal of time is spent behind the scenes, just because you might see an empty seat doesn't mean it's not spoken for.



cubicdollars
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Bracket racing is like watching paint dry, but the noise alone coming out of a nitro car is worth the price of admission for a lot of people.


 

 

 

They don't even know how to spell sprint car much less chromoly...http://www.ycmco.com


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