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Topic: Ashley Force beats her dad, first female funny car winner, point leader
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team wright-one
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April 29, 2008 at 06:25:22 PM
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Posted By: spot1 on April 29 2008 at 07:16:45 AM

same has it that she is the first female winner in the NHRA.......not so. Ever hear of Shirley Muldowney?? Yeah, she drove a top fuel dragster as did Shelly Anderson. They both won a lot of races.



where did same say she was the first female winner in nhra? i saw where he said a female winner was good for irl so why not nhra. did i miss something?



same
April 29, 2008 at 06:27:34 PM
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i have no problem with what danica or ashley accomplished this year, but to compare them to back in the 60's is crazy. both would run home with their tail between their legs. i could just see danica grab aj's arm after a race and shove him like she did to dan ,lol. in those days women were women and darn glad of it!



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Posted By: spot1 on April 29 2008 at 09:39:14 AM

chorsey2, I do know that. Someone earlier posted that Force was the first female NHRA winner. That's what I was referring to. And smoke, with the kind of G-forces they have to put up with, keeping a straight line is more than impressive. There's no way you could do it, losers my ass......



i have not seen that anyone said it was the first female win in nhra on this thread. if i missed it then i am mistaken.



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April 29, 2008 at 06:45:06 PM
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i didnt say that .



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April 29, 2008 at 06:49:19 PM
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Posted By: cubicdollars on April 29 2008 at 11:06:59 AM

Bracket racing is like watching paint dry, but the noise alone coming out of a nitro car is worth the price of admission for a lot of people.



My Son runs a doorslammer, 10.63 @ 146 bracket car. How fast is yours? Pull those belts tight on that lazy boy chair before you get hurt, lol.



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April 29, 2008 at 09:56:46 PM
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This message was edited on April 29, 2008 at 10:04:21 PM by tkaphoto
There is nothing better than being right there shooting Top Fuel or Funny Car. I am a die hard open wheel fan. But there is something about the way they just shake your body. The force from the headers going by force's you back a bit. Here are a few picture's from Firebird Raceway here in Arizona from earlier this year that I took.
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JC
April 30, 2008 at 01:21:05 PM
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Nice pics, thanks for sharing on this board. I even knew it was about drag racing and still looked. If you know what the post is about and don't want to see it, don't open it.



darbo42
April 30, 2008 at 01:35:57 PM
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Racing is great, no matter what form. At least the main thrust here is, and I hope, always will be, sprint cars. If you have never experienced the ground shaking, the heat as they go by, and the deafening noise of a top fuel or funny car, you have missed some excitement. One should also

catch a 1/4 mile "liquid lightning" of a boat race. The top fuel boats shake the grandstand as much as the pro classes in NHRA. It is a feeling to experience.


My wife told me if I went to one more Sprint Car race 
she would leave me.................I'm sure gonna miss 
that ol' gal. 

cubicdollars
April 30, 2008 at 08:31:16 PM
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Posted By: mooner on April 29 2008 at 06:49:19 PM

My Son runs a doorslammer, 10.63 @ 146 bracket car. How fast is yours? Pull those belts tight on that lazy boy chair before you get hurt, lol.



Sorry, but bracket racing has never seemed like much of a spectator sport to me. 146 mph becomes entertainment when it involves a bunch of slobbering idiots running sideways into a turn, not just watching a couple of door bangers through a pair of binoculars try NOT to break out a quarter mile away. sleepy2

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They don't even know how to spell sprint car much less chromoly...http://www.ycmco.com


darbo42
April 30, 2008 at 09:21:04 PM
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I agree on the bracket racing and breaking out. Absolutely boring and when they run I am in the pits catching all the excitement. Like I spoke of, Top Fuel and

Funny cars are where the only exciting racing is as far as NHRA goes. Of course, my opinion only.


My wife told me if I went to one more Sprint Car race 
she would leave me.................I'm sure gonna miss 
that ol' gal. 

Paintboss
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Anyone remember when The Dude and I think it was Warren Johnson raced on the Drag Strip, 410 Sprinter against a Pro Stock? Dude was obviously at a rolling start at the start line but "just" rolling and if I remember right they split 2 races at 1 win each.

Some neat facts Top fuel facts: (I copy & pasted this so I apologize if the format is a bunched up mess)

* One Top Fuel dragster 500 cubic inch Hemi engine makes more horsepower than the first 4 rows of NASCARS at the Daytona 500.

* Under full throttle, a dragster engine consumes 1-1/2 gallons of nitro methane per second; a fully loaded 747 consumes jet fuel at the same rate with 25% less energy being produced.

* A stock Dodge Hemi V8 engine cannot produce enough power to drive the dragster's supercharger.

* With 3,000 CFM of air being rammed in by the supercharger on overdrive, the fuel mixture is compressed into a near-solid form before ignition. Cylinders run on the verge of hydraulic lock at full throttle.

* At the stoichiometric (stoichiometry: methodology and technology by which quantities of reactants and products in chemical reactions are determined) 1.7:1 air/fuel mixture for nitro methane, the flame front temperature measures 7,050 deg F.

* Nitro methane burns yellow. The spectacular white flame seen above the stacks at night is raw burning hydrogen, dissociated from atmospheric water vapor by the searing exhaust gases.

* Dual magnetos supply 44 amps to each spark plug. This is the output of an arc welder in each cylinder.

* Spark plug electrodes are totally consumed during a pass. After halfway, the engine is dieseling from compression, plus the glow of exhaust valves at 1,400 degrees F. The engine can only be shut down by cutting the fuel flow.

* If spark momentarily fails early in the run, unburned nitro builds up in the affected cylinders and then explodes with sufficient force to blow cylinder heads off the block in pieces or split the block in half.

* In order to exceed 300 mph in 4.5 seconds, dragsters must accelerate an average of over 4G's. In order to reach 200 mph (well before half-track), the launch acceleration approaches 8G's.

* Dragsters reach over 300 miles per hour before you have completed reading this sentence.

* Top Fuel engines turn approximately 540 revolutions from light to light!

* Including the burnout, the engine must only survive 900 revolutions under load.

* The redline is actually quite high at 9,500 rpm.

* Assuming all the equipment is paid off, the crew worked for free, and for once NOTHING BLOWS UP, each run costs an estimated $1,000.00 per second.

* The current Top Fuel dragster elapsed time record is 4.441 seconds for the quarter mile (10/05/03, Tony Schumacher). The top speed record is 333.00 mph. (533 km/h) as measured over the last 66' of the run (09/28/03 Doug Kalitta). --------------------------------------

Putting all of this into perspective: -------------------------------------- You are driving the average $140,000 Lingenfelter "twin-turbo" powered Corvette Z06. Over a mile up the road, a Top Fuel dragster is staged and ready to launch down a quarter mile strip as you pass. You have the advantage of a flying start. You run the 'Vette hard up through the gears and blast across the starting line and past the dragster at an honest 200 mph. The 'tree' goes green for both of you at that moment. The dragster launches and starts after you. You keep your foot down hard, but you hear an incredibly brutal whine that sears your eardrums and within 3 seconds, the dragster catches and passes you. He beats you to the finish line, a quarter mile away from where you just passed him. Think about it, from a standing start, the dragster had spotted you 200 mph and not only caught, but nearly blasted you off the road when he passed you within a mere 1,320 foot long race course.

… that an NHRA Funny Car is slowed by a reverse force more than seven times that of gravity when both parachutes deploy simultaneously?

… that NHRA Top Fuel dragsters and Funny Cars consume between four and five gallons of fuel during a quarter-mile run, which is equivalent to between 16 and 20 gallons per mile?

… that NHRA Top Fuel dragsters and Funny Cars use between 10 and 12 gallons of fuel for a complete pass, including the burnout, backup to the starting line, and quarter-mile run?

… that NHRA Top Fuel dragsters and Funny Cars travel the length of more than four football fields in less than five seconds?

… that NHRA Top Fuel dragsters can exceed 280 mph in just 660 feet?

… that from a standing start, NHRA Top Fuel dragsters accelerate faster than a jumbo jet, a fighter jet, and a Formula One race car?

… that a fuel pump for an NHRA Top Fuel dragster and Funny Car delivers 65 gallons of fuel per minute, equivalent to eight bathroom showers running at the same time?

… that the fuel-line pressure for NHRA Top Fuel dragsters and Funny Cars is between 400 and 500 pounds, about 20 times greater than the pressure on passenger-car fuel pumps?

… that depending on size and angle, the large rear wing on an NHRA Top Fuel dragster develops between 4,000 and 8,000 pounds of downforce?

… that the 17-inch rear tires used on NHRA Top Fuel dragsters and Funny Cars wear out after four to six runs, or about two miles? Some brands of passenger-car tires are guaranteed for 80,000 miles.

… that it takes just 15/100ths of a second for all 7,000 horsepower of an NHRA Top Fuel dragster engine to reach the rear wheels?

… that it's desirable for an NHRA Top Fuel dragster to race with its front wheels inches off the ground for about the first 200 feet of the run? This ensures proper weight transfer to the rear wheels, a crucial part of a good launch and quick run.

… that the nitromethane used to power the engines of NHRA Top Fuel dragsters and Funny Cars costs about $16 per gallon?

Sources: NHRA Communications and Technical Departments, NHRA race teams, motorsports equipment manufacturers



loud pedal 8d
May 01, 2008 at 09:43:10 PM
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Paintboss thanks for the fast facts of the NHRA very interesting to say the least.Were heading to st.louis sun for finals at gateway.The nitro cars are bad ass seating clutches in pits on the track an awesome site to feel and behold wow cant wait.



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