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Topic: Balog to Outlaws
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maddog53
December 15, 2023 at 11:11:05 AM
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Just saw a post from Bill that they are 'chasing' the Outlaw chamionship.  It does not say if he signed up.  Good news for Bill and the team.



StanM
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December 15, 2023 at 11:14:18 AM
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That is positive news.


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sprintfanatic
December 15, 2023 at 11:34:30 AM
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His website says that he joined and will run for Rookie of the Year:

https://www.billbalog.com/press/article/143100



Sprinter44
December 15, 2023 at 12:10:04 PM
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Off the tour before July. Outside familiar tracks and a few watered down All-Star events he won last year, he could hardly get top 10's while a tour regular. I wish him luck, but too old and too conservative (probably for budget reasons) to run compettitively with that length and intensityof a schedule. IRA born Bill's have longstanding relationship with B-mains and transfers. 



sprintfast
December 15, 2023 at 12:25:33 PM
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Yeah he was going to run the Mid week HL last year. After 3 races he was like 25th in points and Quit.



maddog53
December 15, 2023 at 12:45:56 PM
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Posted By: Sprinter44 on December 15 2023 at 12:10:04 PM

Off the tour before July. Outside familiar tracks and a few watered down All-Star events he won last year, he could hardly get top 10's while a tour regular. I wish him luck, but too old and too conservative (probably for budget reasons) to run compettitively with that length and intensityof a schedule. IRA born Bill's have longstanding relationship with B-mains and transfers. 



Bill Balog while running with the All Stars full time, 2021, 5th in points, 11 top 5, 20 top 10.  2022, 6th in points, 9 top 5, 23 top 10.  It seems to me that he was a little better than what you remember.  If they could figure out the mechanical issues, (bigger problem than being conservative)  it is obvious that he would have done better.  I give him credit and wish Bill and the team nothing but the best.  I will see him in Wisco 4 times with the Outlaws.  



north star
December 15, 2023 at 12:55:48 PM
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I'm pretty excited to see Bill run with the Outlaws. I could see him finishing 7th-8th in points but it's a long year so time will tell. However, still very exciting to see the 10 time IRA champion face off with some of the very best.



Sprinter44
December 15, 2023 at 01:31:24 PM
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Posted By: maddog53 on December 15 2023 at 12:45:56 PM

Bill Balog while running with the All Stars full time, 2021, 5th in points, 11 top 5, 20 top 10.  2022, 6th in points, 9 top 5, 23 top 10.  It seems to me that he was a little better than what you remember.  If they could figure out the mechanical issues, (bigger problem than being conservative)  it is obvious that he would have done better.  I give him credit and wish Bill and the team nothing but the best.  I will see him in Wisco 4 times with the Outlaws.  



 Agreed, a little better, but with 50-60 shows, those top 10 stats arent great when there were what... 10-12 travelers with the series and the rest were regional and local drop-ins? The one thing he does have going for him is the WOO will be noticebly weaker moving forward... so podiums and top-5's will more attainable than ever.



JonR
December 15, 2023 at 02:44:29 PM
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Wow, Hoseheads is in fine form today.    Bill Balog is a 10-time champion of one of the better regional 410 series.   He has a WOO victory on his resume.  He also has victories from the NSL when it was arrived.  However, when announced he was joining the Outlaws, his resume was thoroughly discredited and he is completely thrown under the bus as a driver.    

On the other hand, when High Limit announces drivers with similar or lesser resumes, we are told about the greatness of High Limit.   We will ignore the fact that some have never won in a winged car.   Some have never won on a national level.   Some have had different car owners every year for the last x years.    I guess I need some of that High Limit Kool-aide. 

 



&C fan
December 15, 2023 at 02:45:13 PM
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Glad to see him on tour! Should be a good fit for him! I think he made a wise choice!



fiXXXer
December 15, 2023 at 03:23:21 PM
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Posted By: JonR on December 15 2023 at 02:44:29 PM

Wow, Hoseheads is in fine form today.    Bill Balog is a 10-time champion of one of the better regional 410 series.   He has a WOO victory on his resume.  He also has victories from the NSL when it was arrived.  However, when announced he was joining the Outlaws, his resume was thoroughly discredited and he is completely thrown under the bus as a driver.    

On the other hand, when High Limit announces drivers with similar or lesser resumes, we are told about the greatness of High Limit.   We will ignore the fact that some have never won in a winged car.   Some have never won on a national level.   Some have had different car owners every year for the last x years.    I guess I need some of that High Limit Kool-aide. 

 



Well said. Balog has by far a better resume than some of the "High Rollers". A really awesome guy too. I hope he has some fun and some success. I'm sure this is a dream come true for him. 



sprintfast
December 15, 2023 at 03:29:53 PM
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Posted By: JonR on December 15 2023 at 02:44:29 PM

Wow, Hoseheads is in fine form today.    Bill Balog is a 10-time champion of one of the better regional 410 series.   He has a WOO victory on his resume.  He also has victories from the NSL when it was arrived.  However, when announced he was joining the Outlaws, his resume was thoroughly discredited and he is completely thrown under the bus as a driver.    

On the other hand, when High Limit announces drivers with similar or lesser resumes, we are told about the greatness of High Limit.   We will ignore the fact that some have never won in a winged car.   Some have never won on a national level.   Some have had different car owners every year for the last x years.    I guess I need some of that High Limit Kool-aide. 

 



10 time champion racing $60,000 cars against people driving $40,000 cars.



JVan
December 15, 2023 at 03:46:43 PM
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Posted By: JonR on December 15 2023 at 02:44:29 PM

Wow, Hoseheads is in fine form today.    Bill Balog is a 10-time champion of one of the better regional 410 series.   He has a WOO victory on his resume.  He also has victories from the NSL when it was arrived.  However, when announced he was joining the Outlaws, his resume was thoroughly discredited and he is completely thrown under the bus as a driver.    

On the other hand, when High Limit announces drivers with similar or lesser resumes, we are told about the greatness of High Limit.   We will ignore the fact that some have never won in a winged car.   Some have never won on a national level.   Some have had different car owners every year for the last x years.    I guess I need some of that High Limit Kool-aide. 

 



Indeed.



AJ_81
December 15, 2023 at 04:03:35 PM
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He's got a handful of podiums with the WoO already (besides the 1 victory) and set fast time multiple nights last year (including a track record), he's got a 4th place in the King's Royal, multiple All-Star victories, NSL victories, and over 130 total A-main wins in a 410 car.  He's more than qualified to be a WoO regular.  I've been hoping he'd make this leap for a number of years.  Best of luck 17B, hammer down!



Sprinter27R
December 15, 2023 at 04:06:03 PM
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I watched Bill come from deep in the field on a black slick race track, one of the only guys able to hold it on the bottom coming off the corner and win an All Star race. I can't remeber the track but I been a fan ever since. Guy had some serious car control...


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Murphy
December 15, 2023 at 05:00:39 PM
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Posted By: sprintfast on December 15 2023 at 03:29:53 PM

10 time champion racing $60,000 cars against people driving $40,000 cars.



Where are they racing $40,000 cars, or even $60,000 cars?



Sprinter44
December 15, 2023 at 05:29:41 PM
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Posted By: JonR on December 15 2023 at 02:44:29 PM

Wow, Hoseheads is in fine form today.    Bill Balog is a 10-time champion of one of the better regional 410 series.   He has a WOO victory on his resume.  He also has victories from the NSL when it was arrived.  However, when announced he was joining the Outlaws, his resume was thoroughly discredited and he is completely thrown under the bus as a driver.    

On the other hand, when High Limit announces drivers with similar or lesser resumes, we are told about the greatness of High Limit.   We will ignore the fact that some have never won in a winged car.   Some have never won on a national level.   Some have had different car owners every year for the last x years.    I guess I need some of that High Limit Kool-aide. 

 



Better regional series?? The IRA is terrible from a competition standpoint. He had a national funded caliber of equipment against a bunch people who had day jobs and were on a shoestring budget. 



Latemodel1
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This message was edited on December 15, 2023 at 06:18:15 PM by Latemodel1
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Posted By: JonR on December 15 2023 at 02:44:29 PM

Wow, Hoseheads is in fine form today.    Bill Balog is a 10-time champion of one of the better regional 410 series.   He has a WOO victory on his resume.  He also has victories from the NSL when it was arrived.  However, when announced he was joining the Outlaws, his resume was thoroughly discredited and he is completely thrown under the bus as a driver.    

On the other hand, when High Limit announces drivers with similar or lesser resumes, we are told about the greatness of High Limit.   We will ignore the fact that some have never won in a winged car.   Some have never won on a national level.   Some have had different car owners every year for the last x years.    I guess I need some of that High Limit Kool-aide. 

 



Bill Balog was a nice addition to the outlaws. They needed that. I just top to bottom the High Limit series drivers top to bottom just have notable resumes. Even their young drivers Crouch and Day. The HL just added Brent Marks too.

 



IADIRT
December 15, 2023 at 08:01:25 PM
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Posted By: Sprinter44 on December 15 2023 at 05:29:41 PM

Better regional series?? The IRA is terrible from a competition standpoint. He had a national funded caliber of equipment against a bunch people who had day jobs and were on a shoestring budget. 



So why are you so upset with him taking a step up to run the WoO where the tables will be flipped completely. He will likely be one of the least funded teams on the WoO tour and I'd guess will finish points better than a handful of them. I don't get the Balog hate or the IRA hate for that matter. 



91RI
December 15, 2023 at 08:26:13 PM
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I find Balog more relatable than most of the committed HL drivers.  Oddly enough yesterday I was reading about the latest addition to HL and thinking," It might be time for Balog to go Outlaw Platinum", so I'm happy to see it.  As for someone thinking that Billy was out moneying the IRA competition, spending money wisely can make it look like you have more money than you do.  Also he ran a KWS race at Stockton a few years back and ran top 5 in a typically 7 to 12 place car.  I think he wound up 3rd, but it was one of the better runs for that car.  



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