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You may find it hard to believe but there really is two of them. It sort of reminds me of a new billboard that I heard about today.

With the schedule released by Port Royal it will be interesting to see if any of the other central pa tracks up there schedules.  To make a comparison of dates and what is being offered at each track you can take your pick of seeing a xtra purse show just about anywhere.  As for track prep, here we go, Lincoln is the  by far the track that is easiest on motors.  Many times it's a slimy mess and the heat races are boring at best. Dust, not at lincoln. My choice is port royal then williams grove, but you can't beat the racing at Selinsgrove either. Be glad central pa offers the best racing in the country. Each weekend you can pick and choose to see some great racing.

Dr. Jekyll never met Mr. Hyde either.

I'll throw Path Valley in there, they are working on the place and the racing is fun, far from the boring half mile freight train tracks They should get a Speedweek date, Kreitzer needs to dump hagerstown and add another small track, atleast its in PA.

Path Valley does not have the infrastructure for a Speed Week race. ( don't even tell me that they have had one before because that doesn't change that) I have been to Selinsgrove for big races and they barely do.  You people do know that other than Grandveiw the big three as you call them pay higher purses than most tracks can?  Also tracks without their group of regulars have a hard time drawing large car counts. There are eight tracks involved what Speed Week has more tracks involved? Williams Grove, Lincoln and Port Royal would have to give up a week of 410's to only have one. Then you rain that one out and what do they get out of it. Then add to that the issue of the tracks you replace them would likely pay a lower purse. This seems to be more a small group of fan's complaint rather than the race teams. I seldom hear them saying we should race for less money.

There's not one good reason for them to go to Hagerstown.  Pa speedweek is terrible, nobody will give up there night and so tracks get 2 shows. I think they need to align themselves with the all stars for the whole week. Start it on a Wednesday  and run it to Sunday night.  5 nights is plenty,  grandview,  grove, port royal,  path valley and finish up Sunday at Selinsgrove.  Grove and Port Royal can run a high purse late model event on there respective regular night. Grandview has the mods on Saturday.  Lincoln gets all the extra cars that don't want to run speedweek. Grandview and Path Valley are 2 smaller tracks that guys don't run on a regular bases, then you have the 3 big 1/2 mile tracks that are the backbone of central pa big tracks. 

I'd vote 4 these:

Wed, June 1st – Michael’s Mercer Raceway
Thu, June 2nd – Thunder Mountain Speedway
Fri, June 3rd – Lernerville Speedway
Sat, June 4th – Sharon Speedway
Sun, June 5th – Tri City Raceway Park

So take a highly successful, well attended week, cut it in half, pay top dollar purses to the LMs in sprint car country and bring in the All Stars yet again even though car counts are not an issue. 

I can't see a thing wrong with this proposal. 

Selinsgrove gets the last date again when car counts are low. Susky gets a better date.? Lots of teams will be hurting with supply issues, from what I've heard the smarter teams were hoarding parts since last year.

The race teams answer that question by showing up. Car counts have not a problem except at the tracks that don't run 410's regularly. That also answers the question of what they think of tracks having two races. All teams do not have to be at every race.

12 attended all racces, average car count was 36.  When I am at a race I am more concerned with the car count today than who was at another race.

If you're gonna claim 'stats', at least be accurate about it.

• What maybe 6 or 7 teams ran the whole series this past year...12 drivers ran every race in 2021
• Some of those were All Stars if I remember right...2 of them, but with teams based out of Central PA...But even so, why is that a bad thing?

So, where is the 'BIG problem' again??

Driver Count at all races
•2021 12
•2020 18
•2019 8
•2018 12
•2017 8
•2016 10
•2015 8

Average Car Count
•2021 36.0
•2020 38.4
•2019 31.5
•2018 32.0
•2017 35.7
•2016 31.9
•2015 34.3

PA Speedweek Stats

Lol, tremendous. 

I wouldn't change a thing , except maybe add my favoprite track , Path Valley. I go to every race every year. What's one more night?

My rankings:

Best facility: 1. Port

Best track prep and racing: 1. Port

Best schedule: 1. Port

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Yep, Path Valley is great! :)

Totally agree!

Not sure why you would sanction Pennsylvania Speedweek with the All Stars and see a $9,000 sanction fee walk out the door before you open the gates? Agreed, there is too much racing for teams. However, why cut races that pay more like PA Speedweek? Not to mention, they are big money makers for the track. Speedweek is fine as is. 

The people who complain about the big 3 getting two dates each.....you realize that those tracks are getting rewarded for having weekly competition. They support the sport week in and week out all season. It would be absolutley ignorant to tell those tracks, "Hey, we need you to take off a week so somebody else can play this weekend. I know you put up the purses all year, but path valley wants a chance"  

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