Forum: HoseHeads Sprint Car General Forum (go)
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Good one douche bag, so I was right, you are a bit dim. We are having an adult discussion with big words onehunglow, go find a thread about ford vs Chevy that's more your speed.

What about alcohol still in your system from the night before, is that illegal? You do realize legal drugs like alcohol kill way more people than all illicit drugs combined. The demon killer weed that has accounted foe exactly no deaths......ever that's what we should worry about because it's Illegal and my TV says it's bad, they just never say what's so bad about it. It's legal to smoke a cigarette and get wasted drunk but dont you dare smoke a joint cuz it's baaaad!!!!! Hypocrisy at its finest, but it's ok because it's illegal.

You Sir need to grab the paper bag and breath in & out very slowly.  Your about to bust a vain. I don't think I or anyone else needs you to save us from " the man" , " uncle Sam" , or who ever else is stoking your paranoia.  You can get legal drugs to help you deal with it. Unfortunately,  the corner dealer probably can't.  You'll need to go to a professional doctor for your prescription. 

But I am really touched, really touched in your efforts to save me without even knowing me... a HUGE THANK YOU from me to you!!!

Australia is not caving to stoners...

http://www.speedwayaustralia.net.au/Media/291/Speedway-Australia-Maintains-Tough-Stance-Against-Drugs-In-Sport/

Australia is not caving to stoners...

http://www.speedwayaustralia.net.au/Media/291/Speedway-Australia-Maintains-Tough-Stance-Against-Drugs-In-Sport/

You have officially crossed the line into crazed fanatic.   The amount of people saved by DUI laws are staggering.   The amount of people killed even with the DUI laws are even more staggering.   To say that DUI laws are a form of intrusion only proves that you are out of touch with the rest of country.

seems as if u are doing the same to him without even knowing him.  and why argue over a plant that will be legal in the near future.  maybe you have the paranoia.  While we are at it explain why booz is safer without screaming illegal.  instead of drug testing why don't every series, sanction and track have a preseason meeting and all should have to view "reefer madness"  there is enough information on that video alone that nobody would want to try it.

I’m heavily involved in sprintcar racing and have a drug testing business as well. Our primary business is acting as a third party administrator to the transportation industry to insure our customers remain in compliance with Federal drug testing rules and regulations.  Ie; policies, training, random selection and testing.  

I have been approached by a couple different promoters/track owners regarding implementing a program and have since put a great deal of thought in how it could be done effectively and affordably based on my knowledge of being on both sides of the fence.

Random testing would be the best deterrent as any given driver could be selected for testing each and every time they race.  Random selections could be accomplished fairly by grouping drivers in a consortium from which to be selected. Consortium pools could consist of multiple tracks, and/or series, or even based on multiple tracks within a time zone. The pool(s) could be easily created from drivers registered through race monitor.  Selections would be computer generated at a specified percentage each night of racing. Some tracks may not have any, or very few drivers selected at an event, as other may have multiple selected.  The cost would be a flat fee based on participation and not the number of test conducted.

I think the most effective way to complete the random testing would be to notify the selected driver at the completion of the event and not before. There are way too many variables to try and accomplish testing during a race. If a driver is exhibiting signs of substance abuse or misuse of alcohol prior to the race, the promoter could then request a reasonable cause test and pull the driver from competition should the test(s) show “NOT NEGATIVE”.

As far as consequences, I think it would be appropriate to follow DOT guidelines. The driver would not be eligible to participate in future events until being cleared by an approved Substance Abuse and Professional and subject to follow-up testing (all at the cost of the driver).

I’m heavily involved in sprintcar racing and have a drug testing business as well. Our primary business is acting as a third party administrator to the transportation industry to insure our customers remain in compliance with Federal drug testing rules and regulations.  Ie; policies, training, random selection and testing.  

I have been approached by a couple different promoters/track owners regarding implementing a program and have since put a great deal of thought in how it could be done effectively and affordably based on my knowledge of being on both sides of the fence.

Random testing would be the best deterrent as any given driver could be selected for testing each and every time they race.  Random selections could be accomplished fairly by grouping drivers in a consortium from which to be selected. Consortium pools could consist of multiple tracks, and/or series, or even based on multiple tracks within a time zone. The pool(s) could be easily created from drivers registered through race monitor.  Selections would be computer generated at a specified percentage each night of racing. Some tracks may not have any, or very few drivers selected at an event, as other may have multiple selected.  The cost would be a flat fee based on participation and not the number of test conducted.

I think the most effective way to complete the random testing would be to notify the selected driver at the completion of the event and not before. There are way too many variables to try and accomplish testing during a race. If a driver is exhibiting signs of substance abuse or misuse of alcohol prior to the race, the promoter could then request a reasonable cause test and pull the driver from competition should the test(s) show “NOT NEGATIVE”.

As far as consequences, I think it would be appropriate to follow DOT guidelines. The driver would not be eligible to participate in future events until being cleared by an approved Substance Abuse and Professional and subject to follow-up testing (all at the cost of the driver).

At least twice in two separate posts you said you were done with this thread yet you still keep posting. How are we to believe you when you can't even keep you word... lol

I don't want a drunk behind the wheel of a sprint car or street car either.

I've never seen anything like the generation of millenniums that need to be high on dope, whacked out on pain killers, hugging the bottle or need as many hugs to unwind, relax, release stress or whatever else their trying to escape from. 

How's Turkey doing as a country with the most liberal drug laws in the world ? Look it up and read before posting so you know what your talking about so you won't look foolish. Or are you gonna tell me it's all propaganda put out by " The Man "

Thanks for paying attention, you have it backward though dim light, I'm not trying to save anyone from anything, I give you and everyone else enough credit to save yourself WITHOUT interference from some governing body trying to save you from your bad decisions before you make them.  Cmon man, if your gonna try to bust my balls at least make sense.

You jackwads who think people who smoke cannabis are nothing but burned out lazy stoners are so damn clueless. We are your friendly neighbors, lawyers, doctors, teachers, engineers, scientists, librarians, race car drivers, military veterans, construction workers, college students, etc, etc. Get with the times man. Anyone with even a half functioning brain knows that the prohibition of cannabis has been orchestrated not as a public safety mechanism but rather one to oppress peoples rights. Cannabis has long been proven safe, contrary to what the government endorsed and wholly falsified studies have stated. Why are you so hell bent on disinfranchising a large percentage of race car drivers who choose to relax after the races in a harmless way? I suppose they should just get drunk then beat their wife and kids instead so they can pass a stupid unnecessary drug test.

I'm writing a five-part series on drug testing in Sprint Car racing that will roll out in a couple weeks. Hoping for the week after Thanksgiving. I wanted to include some thoughts from fans, so I figured this was the best place to put the questions:

Are you in favor of drug testing in Sprint Car racing? Why/Why not?

Do you think there is a need for it in Sprint Car racing? Meaning, do you think there is a problem?

What do you think the penalty should be for someone that comes back with a positive test?

Thanks for your input. Appreciate it.

Utter, short-sighted nonsense.  typical of today's illogical thinking where we take an anecdote and make a broad, general conclusion.  Big difference between drawing a conclusion on extensive empirical data than this.  I hope this so-called article never makes print anywhere until there is adequate investigation and gathering of related data.  Basing a piece on this at this time is amateurish and borders on journalistic irresponsibility.  Using the term jouranalism in this case is truly a gift! 

Utter, short-sighted nonsense.  typical of today's illogical thinking where we take an anecdote and make a broad, general conclusion.  Big difference between drawing a conclusion on extensive empirical data than this.  I hope this so-called article never makes print anywhere until there is adequate investigation and gathering of related data.  Basing a piece on this at this time is amateurish and borders on journalistic irresponsibility.  Using the term jouranalism in this case is truly a gift!