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Looked like a successful experiment. Nashville regularly sold out the Indy Cars. So it was impressive to see  fans that probably   wouldnt follow winged sprint cars having a good time. Really helped with Tony Stewart and some of the well known USAC drivers. Would be interesting to add other drivers also from other organizations. Be interesting to see what becomes of it. 

We were there. Friday was awlful. Alot of wrecked cars. Time trials that took forever,not enough push trucks. Ran into some folks that said they were not going back Saturday and sold their tickets. We decided to try again after all was a first time there will always be some issues. Well much better still work to do though. Sold out disagree as i was in reserved seating and many open seats. But a great crowd hard to move around in the food alley. They improved the time trial running but still took way to long. I hate them anyway and see as a waste of time my opinion. These are boring anyway but make them longer wanted to take a nap. Good feature and racing though with much less carnage. They can improve the following

 Ticket price - higher than we ever pay for WOO plus 10.00 to park. Alot for a family                                                               Rework entrance and exit so time trials run faster and more efficient.                            Wider track with alittle banking. Even alittle bigger.         Add back to all seats not just some finish the rest.         Maybe some more food trucks 45 minutes to get a burger is crazy.         No need for another division. If show running to long then no worries a division does not get snubbed. Many tracks do this though and make the show longer than it needs to be.

I caught the feature on Dirtvision last nite.... good racing & looked like big crowd

Maybe some of those folks will realize how much better dirt track sprints are than "that other thing"....

FiXXer is probably the most reasonable Posse fan on HH. In fact I've had to call him out for being too hard on fellow "Pennsyltuckians" 

But you already apologized, so everything's cool....

I didn't have the opportunity to watch last night. Glad to hear some improvements were made. Hope that IF they come back in future years they listen to your suggestions and make some more improvements. I believe making the track wider with more banking has to be the top priority. Not sure how realistic that would be. 

WoO did a good job of fixing the things they could the second night. They staged the cars a lot closer for qualifying and the track prep was on point! Maybe the track is wide enough? I would be curious to see if the track lasted a little longer if it was a 410 only show or a smaller second division.

After watching the videos from night 1, I thought the track was too tight and god himself couldn't have convinced me otherwise. But after watching last night's action, I think maybe I was wrong. I think a little more banking and a little more moisture would do the trick but I wouldn't mess with it too much because that was some damn good racing. Reminded me a lot of Trail-Way here in PA. It's a tight bullring with a similar long straights/tight corner layout. It's a 1/3 mile and it's banked a lot more. The banking is the same on the straightaways as it is the corners. It's a blast to watch 410's there. Brent Marks actually won a race there a few years ago so I wasn't suprised to see him run so well at Nashville.

I just watched the feature video.  I have seen worse WOO shows.  Yes the track was small. flat and narrow, but  these are pro drivers and a challenge is good to see who comes out first.  You can whine about every race.  There was passing so what do you want?  The challenge is to do the best you can as a driver and crew  with the variety of tracks they throw at you.  They did that.  Now go back to your basement and whine some more.

I just watched the feature video.  I have seen worse WOO shows.  Yes the track was small. flat and narrow, but  these are pro drivers and a challenge is good to see who comes out first.  You can whine about every race.  There was passing so what do you want?  The challenge is to do the best you can as a driver and crew  with the variety of tracks they throw at you.  They did that.  Now go back to your basement and whine some more.

This thread makes me laugh. Watched both nights on dirtvision. No, Friday wasn’t the best show but I didnt complain and completely throw a hissy fit and start a thread bashing the WoO. They got it figured out and Saturday night was 180 degrees different. Sure it still rubbered up in the feature towards the end, but my hats are off the WRG and the WoO for sticking their heads out there and trying something! It’s crazy how quick people are to be so negative. The WoO could run 1,000 shows absolutely flawlessly then mess the next one up slightlyand get raked over the coals. 

I went both nights. Friday was rough, but that was to be expected. I’ve never gone to the first iteration of any event be it racing, sporting, musical or anything else that goes to smoothly. There was a steep learning curve to be dealt with and everyone involved did as well as can be realistically expected. I thought Saturday was a night and day difference. The racing all night was much better and the crowd was into it all night. I was shocked by the size of the crowds. I thought Friday’s was good for the size of the grandstands, and I was blown away by Saturday’s. Overall I was happy with the experience and am glad that I went and actually got to see some racing instead of all the rain everyone has had to deal with. 

Just curious why some are saying good for the WoO to step into a new market considering the risk. Really, is there risk,? Doesnt the local track pay the sanction fee and absorb all risk. What did the WoO have at risk other than some pride in no one showed up? Should we be more please the local track invited the WoO at their risk of loosing a lot?

Even though I may not know you, I 
care what most of you think!

You sir are a classless loser.  Bring that mouth to Wisconsin in a couple weeks and see how fast it gets closed for you. 

Maybe he'll have some "North Pole Nightmares"? ;)

Makes sense to me....

Even at the most prestigious tracks, sometimes the pole sitter is too fast & the race is boring. Nothing you can do about it, nature of the beast....

"They improved the time trial running but still took way to long. I hate them anyway and see as a waste of time my opinion".... Kind of agree on Time Trials. Although I wouldn't say I "hate" them, they can be kind of boring. Best thing is that you can familiarize yourself with the cars & drivers if you don't already know them. I would be OK with random draw for starting position in heats, maybe with passing points, or maybe even full inversion based on points, like the "Good Ole Days" on dirt tracks

There is always risk, but I think they were trying a very different market, not from the fact of will sprint car fans come but, what kind of crowd will locals of a metro area turn out. I saw a lot of families with kids just out for a good time. The kids seemed entertained, were trying to figure out the format.  I think the grandstand holds about 15,000, so they had really good crowds. I saw a lot of t-shirts being sold, people seemed to like the concert environment. I had the best race track burger ever, so the food options were good. Someone did a heck of a lot of work.
I think when you start charging upwards of 50 dollars fans are going to expect good comfortable  seats, good food, clean or decent rest rooms, intersting things for kids and adults, good sound systems, racing stars and good races ran with out long delay.

If you can entice a lot of new fans in venues like this, it would be a boost to racers and teams for improved revenues.

The old jalopy tracks that haven't really updated much over the years may have to get with it to win/retain new fans.

Nice to see guys utilizing the fence in 4 during time trails.  Little tricky setting up cars to bang the fence to get quick time lol  Narrow track and laps slower than 1/2 mile tracks.  It's intersting, different, slow, etc, yes. but I feel bad for anyone who went to this race as their first ever sprint car race in person.  Can't imagine their thoughts of sprint cars after Friday night.   Just my 2 cents. 

Sat around a group of a dozen asphalt fans from Tennessee that had never seen a sprint car race until Friday. They were having a blast and after the A-main, they were pretty excited for Saturday. Sounds like Saturday didnt disapoint. They were well aware due to the size, the wide open speed couldnt be there, but were impressed none the less. The whole feeling I got there, was everyone was having fun and cheering as cars were slapping that wall and standing on it. Especially Macedo.

You hit the nail on the head. One thing I'm seeing a lot of these days, are unreal expectations. So many fans seem to think that every race should be a barn burner and that never was, nor will it ever be possible.