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Topic: Excited for the opening night for the best track in the world
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frenchy
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April 17, 2016 at 10:32:40 AM
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Posted By: newbeevur on April 14 2016 at 10:24:37 PM

On the Clint Garner subject if he is doing the 360 routine again, does anybody know if he will be doing a Saturday Knoxville, Sunday Badlands schedule?



I know his dad pretty well, he said that Clint will be running 360s at Knoxville but not badlands. They have a good thing going and with the sponsors and success they've had they're breaking even. Clint also has a full time job and a family so it works for his schedule.



motorhead748
April 17, 2016 at 05:48:22 PM
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I just got home.  I made the 9 hr one way trip and it was worth it. 



revjimk
April 17, 2016 at 07:15:54 PM
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Posted By: motorhead748 on April 17 2016 at 05:48:22 PM

I just got home.  I made the 9 hr one way trip and it was worth it. 



Holy crap! Where do you live?



revjimk
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Posted By: motorhead748 on April 17 2016 at 05:48:22 PM

I just got home.  I made the 9 hr one way trip and it was worth it. 



I could see doing that for the Nationals, but for a regular show?

I'm impressed, crazier than me! ;)

Or should I say "more dedicated"?



The_Truth_Detector
April 17, 2016 at 09:01:17 PM
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Posted By: fiXXXer on April 13 2016 at 08:29:45 PM

I don't know much about Knoxville Raceway but I'd be willing to bet that if non winged shows were a financial success at Knoxville, they'd have them. 



Don't fool yourself, the only financial success at Knoxville Raceway is the Knoxville Nationals. The Nationals pays for the weakly losses.



MSPN
April 18, 2016 at 10:10:31 AM
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The track was too much in the black also, not their best night of racing, better things to come....



The_Truth_Detector
April 18, 2016 at 10:39:25 AM
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I'm pretty decent at basic math, if they had 2500 people in the stands and 275 in the pits, after the purse was paid, they had about $20k left to pay overhead and salaries. Granted, that does not include the billboard advertising and the charges for the suites, but I do know some of the salaries paid there and in the end I wouldn't call it a "financial success". Remember, this was the season opener too where you would expect a larger than normal crowd. My guess is their ROS is around 8%.



YungWun24
April 18, 2016 at 10:43:41 AM
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Posted By: MSPN on April 18 2016 at 10:10:31 AM

The track was too much in the black also, not their best night of racing, better things to come....



I thought the racing, including the heats were good, and probably better than normal since it slicked off earlier than normal. 

 


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motorhead748
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Posted By: revjimk on April 17 2016 at 07:15:54 PM

Holy crap! Where do you live?



Cincinnati. I ride my bike so it's enjoyable & cost effective. I'll be back in June for the WoO. 



motorhead748
April 18, 2016 at 11:52:04 AM
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Posted By: revjimk on April 17 2016 at 07:30:12 PM

I could see doing that for the Nationals, but for a regular show?

I'm impressed, crazier than me! wink

Or should I say "more dedicated"?



Crazy?  about 10 yr ago I worked all day and made it out there in time for the heats. I got off @ 2 est and wasted no time.  Bike I had then would make it on 1 fuel stop. That was crazy. 



paydirt28
April 18, 2016 at 11:56:47 AM
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Posted By: motorhead748 on April 18 2016 at 11:45:24 AM

Cincinnati. I ride my bike so it's enjoyable & cost effective. I'll be back in June for the WoO. 



By bike, you mean motorcycle? I just wanted to clarify because because I live in California where people do acually ride their bicycle for nine hours a day. Kudos to you for making the drive/ride. That's one of the great things about sprint car/dirt track racing, on any given weekend, if you're willing to put in some windsheild time, you can always find a race.

 

 



MSPN
April 18, 2016 at 12:26:46 PM
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Yo' Ford, by being a complete fool, utter moron etc. you make anyone an expert on anything if you're in the discussion, sorry....



motorhead748
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Posted By: paydirt28 on April 18 2016 at 11:56:47 AM

By bike, you mean motorcycle? I just wanted to clarify because because I live in California where people do acually ride their bicycle for nine hours a day. Kudos to you for making the drive/ride. That's one of the great things about sprint car/dirt track racing, on any given weekend, if you're willing to put in some windsheild time, you can always find a race.

 

 



Yes. Motorcycle.  It's win-win for me. I wanna do a Jackson-Knoxville weekend once this year. 



revjimk
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Posted By: motorhead748 on April 18 2016 at 11:45:24 AM

Cincinnati. I ride my bike so it's enjoyable & cost effective. I'll be back in June for the WoO. 



Wow. You must really love Knoxville and/or winged racing. There must have been closer races in Ohio or Indiana. I thought maybe you lived in a sprintless area, like me in Denver



motorhead748
April 18, 2016 at 01:33:42 PM
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Posted By: revjimk on April 18 2016 at 01:02:23 PM

Wow. You must really love Knoxville and/or winged racing. There must have been closer races in Ohio or Indiana. I thought maybe you lived in a sprintless area, like me in Denver



Yes & yes. I rode past the local track 30 miles from home.... I wouldn't minded seeing Haud win ASCOC Saturday nite tho. 



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Totally agree!



MSPN
April 19, 2016 at 09:01:43 AM
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Chilly, the first 360 heat was good but Garner led from almost the start as he had that monster first lap, the A-Main was good as Clauson is showing everyone just how talented he is but virtually all other 360 stuff featured front row winners.  Heck, even in the 360 main the two fastest cars all night were followed by the front row in 3rd and 4th.  In the A-Main the top 6 finished in the top 6, it is a bit of a head scratcher when Kerry, Sammy and TK do so little but c'est la vie....

I would never, no matter what, say a negative word about the Dunkins, they are simply the best at what they do but I was surprised to see qualifying times off by as much as I have ever seen.  I will watch many more times on PPV this year and I've seen over a hundred shows there in person from the early 90's on and the majority of them have been quite good, just thought this one was a bit disappointing, not a biggy....



YungWun24
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Posted By: MSPN on April 19 2016 at 09:01:43 AM

Chilly, the first 360 heat was good but Garner led from almost the start as he had that monster first lap, the A-Main was good as Clauson is showing everyone just how talented he is but virtually all other 360 stuff featured front row winners.  Heck, even in the 360 main the two fastest cars all night were followed by the front row in 3rd and 4th.  In the A-Main the top 6 finished in the top 6, it is a bit of a head scratcher when Kerry, Sammy and TK do so little but c'est la vie....

I would never, no matter what, say a negative word about the Dunkins, they are simply the best at what they do but I was surprised to see qualifying times off by as much as I have ever seen.  I will watch many more times on PPV this year and I've seen over a hundred shows there in person from the early 90's on and the majority of them have been quite good, just thought this one was a bit disappointing, not a biggy....



I can understand how our perspective can be skewed from watching online however I will still disagree that the opening night was good racing, b/c like I said before, the track slicked off earlier than normal, and some could still run the bottom all except for the end of the 410 feature. 


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oswald
April 19, 2016 at 01:20:19 PM
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Posted By: MSPN on April 19 2016 at 09:01:43 AM

Chilly, the first 360 heat was good but Garner led from almost the start as he had that monster first lap, the A-Main was good as Clauson is showing everyone just how talented he is but virtually all other 360 stuff featured front row winners.  Heck, even in the 360 main the two fastest cars all night were followed by the front row in 3rd and 4th.  In the A-Main the top 6 finished in the top 6, it is a bit of a head scratcher when Kerry, Sammy and TK do so little but c'est la vie....

I would never, no matter what, say a negative word about the Dunkins, they are simply the best at what they do but I was surprised to see qualifying times off by as much as I have ever seen.  I will watch many more times on PPV this year and I've seen over a hundred shows there in person from the early 90's on and the majority of them have been quite good, just thought this one was a bit disappointing, not a biggy....



But 2 of the 3 410 heats were great. The race behind the Dude in the A for 2nd to 5th was awesome too. PPV you only see what they show you. A lot different than being there, obviously.



MSPN
April 19, 2016 at 02:27:53 PM
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To each his own.  The Cushion does a very good job of showing where the action is, they aren't amateurs.  17 of the top 18 starters in the 3 heats transferred to the A and two of them were won from the front row.  Kerry and Brian B. did make nice charges as per usual.  For most it was the first race of the year and that is always a good memory no matter what happens, I get that.  I've watched a number of races via PPV (this season) and seen better.  Also have watched many, many better at Knoxville that's all I was saying.  Heck, my original comment was a 'black'reference as a pun on a previous poster's comment and it was track related which can't be denied, time to relax everyone....If you asked Danny if it was a good night I'm sure his answer would be different than the one you would get from Sammy, no worries mate.....



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