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Have you been to china? I have !The guy making 2 dollars a day in china is about the same as 20dollars an hour in the states so in the chinese economy he is doing well.He also has to compete against a billion other people for his job and thats a pretty big litter to choose from. China isn't all sweat shops, forced child labor and poverty,its high tech and very modern and getting more so every day.XXX is the only company admitting to outsourcing but if you order parts from speedway motors you better look close at it. Speedy Bill dosen't own half of lincoln ne. because he buys high priced parts and sells them to you for a couple cent profit.Majority of it is now from CHINA.Like I said earlier,come look at my car at the race track and tell me what part of my car is at high risk and not safe and I will change it.

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I'm just curious. To the poster who says the agrument is weak and tired, try telling that to any large manufacturing company who had been shelling out close to 100K a year for a single worker in the industry, after figuring in their pension, paid holidays, sick leave and every insurance coverage and benefit imaginable.

If anyone wants to lay blame on our jobs being outsourced, the first places are to look are the labor unions and greed. Oh wait, they're the same thing.

Don't think I would know much about that stuff.lol. But I did see your ride down at Devil's Bowl. Also saw that American made mag go south Friday. In fact, you may even remember speaking with me outside the hotel Friday night.

Point taken about China, I've never been there. Like I said in my post......there are positives and negatives.......just depends on who and how they're lookin at it. I think until there is a problem with XXX chassis.........It's a very good thing for race teams. If it remains a reliable product than as the cost of everyting else in sprint racing goes up.........more and more race teams will use XXX. And if it performs as well as other chassis AND is cheaper............then more will use it and that is a good thing.

Just curious.........whats the shipping charges on a XXX chassis? Where do they warehouse it in the states?

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xXx head quarter is in Sedro Woolley WA.They have dealers though out the US and Aussie land

Seems there alot of non drivers; owners and sponsors posting in this thread :)

Brian 

"TURN AROUND; MATE !"

I do remember talking to you and how are you? Sorry I sound a little ticked off but instead of people being happy about another car being at the track all I hear is what a bad choice I made.I just want to race and this year the budget isn't that big. I think I paid about $200 to ship everything and the other chassis makers wanted around $400. XXX is located in washington state I believe.

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pretty decent.............I was suprised not to see @ Oklahoma City for the ASCS Sprint Nationals here. Then again the forecasters prediction of 80% rain mighta had somthin to do with that.......plus the fact it looked like it was gonna rain all weekend. Still a good show tho.........friday was heavy and Saturday was slick so it was a pick your pleasure and poison type of deal. If you make that trek down to Devil's Bowl Winter Nationals or 360 Knoxville Nationals might have to find ya and say hello then.

As far as the chassis, the one real thing I thought negative about XXX was like a lot of other companies it seems like the owners are making a killin off cheaper labor............that kinda thing just looks a bit bad. But on the other hand............this deal helps a lot of sprint car teams here. And if the local sprint racing and local drivers on a budget are gonna make it through rising prices in everything they will need all the help they can get........the sport in general too. In the end I think the positives outweigh the negatives, but there are both. It just depends on who you are as to how you see it. Ironically, most of those people talkin bad about your chassis will probably have one in the next year or 2. These things always work out that way.

Best of luck to you up in Nebraska this year. BTW what series and tracks will you be racin this year?

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I will for sure be at the 360 nationals and hopefully the winter nationals if the funds are there. As a business man I dont think they are making a killing,it takes time,money and sacrafices to get your share of the market. The problem is that once they are in good the price will go up to match and thats when the profits come. I am going to try to run knoxville weekly and ascs midwest or we will just pick and choose every week. The track i would like to run at would rather jump garbage trucks and put on freak shows than put money in point funds and weekly purses so off we go.See you at the track.

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garbage trucks? lol I'll just have to ask you about that 1 come August in Knoxville. We make the trip from OKC to Knoxville every year for the 360 Nat., but still not seen a 410 Nat.

Best of luck to your racing this year man. I'll look in on ASCS and hoseheads for some results from time to time.

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Seems a clear distinction between parts and chassis in this release ...

Triple X Race Co) A Triple X Race Co Chassis grabbed its first victory in Ohio at Attica Raceway Park . Bryan Sebetto was the first driver of the 2007 season to strike paydirt in a Triple X Race Co Chassis, beating a very competitive field of 305 sprint cars from around the area. "The thing was just awesome in hot laps, and we went from starting 8th in our heat to finishing second.it's nice when you can just wheel the car out there and have it be fast! It was just a rocket!" said Sebetto.

Yep, it's that Chinese ingenuity

If it was not for labor unions we all would be working for minimum wage and wouldn't have to worry about sprint car racing because we couldn't afford it

That's right, but some just don't get get it and if it wasn't for OSHA I'd be dead or maimed.

Kenny

Half the lies they tell about me aren't true. 

AND, if the current OSHA regulations were policed as they should be, thousands of lives and injuries could be saved.

and increase the expenses for the American products even more.

We may as well face it, the greed of the worker and the greed of the companies have made "made in America" a rare thing to see anymore.

We must change our thinking from a manufacturing thinking to a service thinking.

Looks like we all we be selling life insurance to each other soon.

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People that think OSHA saved your live; hmmmm

Machinist for 22 year's; if there was some wrong you fixed it

Brian 

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And you fixed it because OSHA required it, most likely. I don't know a great deal about the machine shop business, however I do know that OSHA requires a "lock out, tag out" procedure any time a machine is being moved or repaired or replaced. All safety guards and operation procedures are the result of OSHA, and not your company. All this to help keep you from being injured or worse.

I was involved in the construction industry for over 40 years and I don't agree with a number of regulations required by OSHA nor the way they conduct inspections and inforcements. However, as disfunctional and unneccessary as they seem  at times, working conditions are safer and better than those days preceding their existence. Fatalities on construction sites were commonplace 40 years ago and thats not the case today. Just as fatalities in sprint cars were common 40 years ago. The survival and growth of sprint car racing demanded safety improvements and that challenge was met. That same challenge for industry and construction wasn't even considered by large corporations and as the result, OSHA was created. Good or bad, it's better than nothing!

BUT, since we have to compete with the foreign competition, we should abolish OSHA, child labor laws ( hell let's put them to work in the coal mines at 12 years of age like it was not so long ago) the 40 hour work week , and all of the other laws directed at humane treatment and a safe workplace. 

It was common since when we would fix something

In all the years I worked at three different shops I NEVER saw one OHSA official at any time

We made a ton of Boeing parts and Sprint Car parts

Brian 

"TURN AROUND; MATE !"

I saw them most often when I worked on big jobs where we used safety harnesses. When I worked for Borden's pasta factory installing new machinery,fabricating stairs,guardrails etc, they were all over the place.

Kenny

Half the lies they tell about me aren't true. 

Someone with more experience with unions please explain to me how the unions are a good thing for america as a whole? I dont have much info on the subject, but I have worked, and have family who have worked at union jobs, and all the union ever did was collect dues and instigate strikes costing families hundreds and thousands of dollars so they could get a 5 cent raise. Union jobs I have been to had labor agreements that required way more workers per job than needed, and the work ethic was pathetic and lazy. Attach whatever credibility or lack thereof to MSNBC, but i was listening to a segment via XM radio and their economics analyst made a very good argument for hpw Unions have crippld much of america, many medium businesses, and have just about killed the auto industry. Just a point of view, and not neccesarily my own since i don't know enough about the affect of unions nationwide, but it certainly made sense and fit well within the scope of what I have seen myself.

Don't worry the third world countries will have their own coming of age soon enough. When they do the same people will then complain about how much everything costs.

shadowsprint4 - Having worked on the management side of unions I do agree with the work ethic part. In todays America I do not beleive a good employee has much need for a union. But the union has much need for them. A good employee is pure profit for them. As they say 80% of the problems come from 20% of the people. Those 20% will require 80% of the managers time.