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blazer00
August 21, 2017 at 12:51:54 PM
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Posted By: Nickules on August 21 2017 at 08:13:07 AM

So I've been pondering this question (okay for like 2 minutes, not exactly bending my mind wondering) and it's a serious one to the OP or whomever.  Sammy is a HOF'er and one of the best drivers to ever enter a sprint car.  Even if you don't like Sammy, the fact of his greatness is undeniable.  So, my quesiton is why every time does Sammy win or run well today his fans need to pound their chests and throw it into people's faces (okay that might be strong, might not be though).  Is it because Sammy is a polarizing figure so his fans feel as if these have to come out in droves and thumb their noses at the "haters" and say "see, hes' the best, he's still winning, in your face."  Can solace or joy not simply be had in the fact "your guy" is still winning or running well (which again shouldn't be a surpirse given his prowess).  I mean this seriously, I'm wondering why this is the case.  Maybe a Sammy super fan can chime in here.  Danny Smith won this weekend, another legend (yes I know not on Sammy's level) but everytime Danny wins his fans don't feel the come out and say "see, in your face" to people.  Then again Danny is universally liked.  So maybe I answered my own question.  Because Sammy is either a "love him or hate him" type guy those that love him feel a passionate need to defend him.  



Personally I think a large number of the fans that booed Sammy over the years were just "joining the choir" because of what they heard, and not what they may have witnessed. Most all sports enjoy having a bad guy. I've really only become a fan of Sammy's in recent years. I did however always enjoy his ability. I had many other favorites based on where they were from mostly. My opinion of Sammy has always been consistant. I've seen a hundred or so live WoO events and too many taped WoO races to count. I can honestly say I've not seen more than a few incidents on track that could even come close to being considered intentional on his part. I hate booing....period! Has he always been the best interview? No, but I think more so because of his nature and being uncomfortable with a microphone than his being an "ass" as many state. I do think in his interviews today he seems more comfortable. At every race track in the country I visited, Sammy was always booed. Impossible to have that many people witness an on track act that was worthy of that being the lable of "Slammin". So why now am I a Sammy fan? Well the most obvious is the fact that we are witnessing the tail end of a fabulous career, and, he reminds those of us that were there in the beginning, that we did have a hell of a couple generations of fabulous drivers back in our day. Secondly, I was one of those who chanted "Sammy-Sammy-Sammy" at the 2010 Nationals after the tire let go. It was a "feel good" moment to witness the largest crowd of the year cheering the man for the drive he had just left on the race track. And it was a hell of a drive! A CLEAN DRIVE! It was almost like in an instant, there would now be more cheers for Sammy in the future at the Nationals than there would be jeers. And that has been the case there ever since 2010. And.......those cheers come from a large base of fans that did witness that night, because they return year after year to Knoxville for that event. That drive also represented the hundreds of great drives he has performed over his long career. Even though some will deny those drives ever existed at all. So yeh, I'll continue to cheer for Sammy Swindell!



shernernum
August 21, 2017 at 12:59:49 PM
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Posted By: blazer00 on August 21 2017 at 12:51:54 PM

Personally I think a large number of the fans that booed Sammy over the years were just "joining the choir" because of what they heard, and not what they may have witnessed. Most all sports enjoy having a bad guy. I've really only become a fan of Sammy's in recent years. I did however always enjoy his ability. I had many other favorites based on where they were from mostly. My opinion of Sammy has always been consistant. I've seen a hundred or so live WoO events and too many taped WoO races to count. I can honestly say I've not seen more than a few incidents on track that could even come close to being considered intentional on his part. I hate booing....period! Has he always been the best interview? No, but I think more so because of his nature and being uncomfortable with a microphone than his being an "ass" as many state. I do think in his interviews today he seems more comfortable. At every race track in the country I visited, Sammy was always booed. Impossible to have that many people witness an on track act that was worthy of that being the lable of "Slammin". So why now am I a Sammy fan? Well the most obvious is the fact that we are witnessing the tail end of a fabulous career, and, he reminds those of us that were there in the beginning, that we did have a hell of a couple generations of fabulous drivers back in our day. Secondly, I was one of those who chanted "Sammy-Sammy-Sammy" at the 2010 Nationals after the tire let go. It was a "feel good" moment to witness the largest crowd of the year cheering the man for the drive he had just left on the race track. And it was a hell of a drive! A CLEAN DRIVE! It was almost like in an instant, there would now be more cheers for Sammy in the future at the Nationals than there would be jeers. And that has been the case there ever since 2010. And.......those cheers come from a large base of fans that did witness that night, because they return year after year to Knoxville for that event. That drive also represented the hundreds of great drives he has performed over his long career. Even though some will deny those drives ever existed at all. So yeh, I'll continue to cheer for Sammy Swindell!



I've seen Sammy do a few things on the track over the years that have irritated me, and I have never been a fan.  However, one of the reasons I decided to drive out to Grandview on Thursday after still recovering (work wise, sleep wise, and financially) from Knoxville, is because Sammy was on the list of drivers who were going to be there.

I might have gone even without him there, but I will take any chance I get to see a legend of the sport race in a competitive car at least one more time.



BigRightRear
August 21, 2017 at 02:17:05 PM
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I like Sammy...bought about a dozen shirts to prove it.

BUT...when I am there and he drives like a dick...I take the shirt off, tie it into a knot and throw it at the catch fence.

2 less shirts now because of it...got thin out the collection and its a good way to start...


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HoldenCaulfield
August 21, 2017 at 06:07:47 PM
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Never been a Sammy fan and never will be but I've come to respect the man for his skills and accomplishments. It's even more impressive that he's still competetive at his age. 


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dsc1600
August 21, 2017 at 06:21:54 PM
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Sammys aggressive no doubt but he's also one of the sprint car drivers to ever live and unlike the King, is still competitive on a fairly Regular basis after the age of 60. 



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August 21, 2017 at 06:41:48 PM
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Respect Sammy for all of his accomplishments, but I'm not a fan and never will be. Have seen too much in person and on TV.  The guy is a legend though!!



Dlucks83
August 22, 2017 at 10:18:53 PM
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Posted By: Johnny Utah on August 19 2017 at 03:14:57 PM

Positivity!! This is such a refreshing thing to see on a board that's as negative as Hosehead's.

Enjoy a Sensenig's sammich for me, will ya? Actually, you'll probably complain about that too.



Wouldn't blame them since their shop has a tendency to show up on the health code violation list.



turn4guy
August 22, 2017 at 11:15:49 PM
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Posted By: Dlucks83 on August 22 2017 at 10:18:53 PM

Wouldn't blame them since their shop has a tendency to show up on the health code violation list.



Dude... Dont ever buy from that place. Chicken breasts are nasty and warm. Steaks are mealy and warm. Those idiots need to understand that meats need to be kept at least somewhat cool. I picked up a bag of chicken and it was half full of blood and juice and the edges were white because of how warm the shit was being stored at. The place is so nasty. However, their portable smoker produces some shit at the track. At least you know the shit isn't full of bacteria when u eat it. 



Nickules
August 23, 2017 at 02:13:26 PM
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You think it would've taken you that long... :)  I figured you'd be out by the end of '83 ;)



Johnny Utah
August 23, 2017 at 03:40:45 PM
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Posted By: turn4guy on August 22 2017 at 11:15:49 PM

Dude... Dont ever buy from that place. Chicken breasts are nasty and warm. Steaks are mealy and warm. Those idiots need to understand that meats need to be kept at least somewhat cool. I picked up a bag of chicken and it was half full of blood and juice and the edges were white because of how warm the shit was being stored at. The place is so nasty. However, their portable smoker produces some shit at the track. At least you know the shit isn't full of bacteria when u eat it. 



Yeah, I only buy their stuff from the track because I live about two hours away. I love the ham with about one pound of horseradish on it.... sooo good.

I only ever got salmonella one time and that was from a KFC. 24 hours and 17 pounds later (no joke, thats how much I lost) it was flushed out of my system and I was right as rain again.



turn4guy
August 23, 2017 at 07:26:09 PM
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 We got rained out at susky one night so we towed down to Lincoln to catch the delayed sprint feature. Anyway at the end of the night,  if they have a lot of extra food,  they sell big trays of stuff for pretty cheap. I think we got like 12 giant turkey legs for 10 bucks and another big tray of ham for a few dollars. Their track setup is pretty good and they're nice people but stay away from the "cooler"  section in the store. 



DRIVESHAFT
August 23, 2017 at 10:41:14 PM
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PA. Posse fan you are right. You do not 

Have to be for Sammy . Be for the driver

of your choice.example the congresswoman

who said trump should be assicinated

mispelled. But if trump said that

about her you would never

hear the end of it. Most all sprint

car drivers have been in some

kind of altercation.



turn4guy
August 23, 2017 at 11:16:38 PM
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Posted By: DRIVESHAFT on August 23 2017 at 10:41:14 PM

PA. Posse fan you are right. You do not 

Have to be for Sammy . Be for the driver

of your choice.example the congresswoman

who said trump should be assicinated

mispelled. But if trump said that

about her you would never

hear the end of it. Most all sprint

car drivers have been in some

kind of altercation.



I love this post so much ^^



Nickules
August 24, 2017 at 06:48:56 AM
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Posted By: turn4guy on August 23 2017 at 11:16:38 PM

I love this post so much ^^



Post of the century...

Reminds me of this so much:

https://youtu.be/vuJl5O-9uus?t=15s



TBSprintFan
August 27, 2017 at 06:23:29 PM
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Posted By: blazer00 on August 21 2017 at 12:51:54 PM

Personally I think a large number of the fans that booed Sammy over the years were just "joining the choir" because of what they heard, and not what they may have witnessed. Most all sports enjoy having a bad guy. I've really only become a fan of Sammy's in recent years. I did however always enjoy his ability. I had many other favorites based on where they were from mostly. My opinion of Sammy has always been consistant. I've seen a hundred or so live WoO events and too many taped WoO races to count. I can honestly say I've not seen more than a few incidents on track that could even come close to being considered intentional on his part. I hate booing....period! Has he always been the best interview? No, but I think more so because of his nature and being uncomfortable with a microphone than his being an "ass" as many state. I do think in his interviews today he seems more comfortable. At every race track in the country I visited, Sammy was always booed. Impossible to have that many people witness an on track act that was worthy of that being the lable of "Slammin". So why now am I a Sammy fan? Well the most obvious is the fact that we are witnessing the tail end of a fabulous career, and, he reminds those of us that were there in the beginning, that we did have a hell of a couple generations of fabulous drivers back in our day. Secondly, I was one of those who chanted "Sammy-Sammy-Sammy" at the 2010 Nationals after the tire let go. It was a "feel good" moment to witness the largest crowd of the year cheering the man for the drive he had just left on the race track. And it was a hell of a drive! A CLEAN DRIVE! It was almost like in an instant, there would now be more cheers for Sammy in the future at the Nationals than there would be jeers. And that has been the case there ever since 2010. And.......those cheers come from a large base of fans that did witness that night, because they return year after year to Knoxville for that event. That drive also represented the hundreds of great drives he has performed over his long career. Even though some will deny those drives ever existed at all. So yeh, I'll continue to cheer for Sammy Swindell!



How many drivers did tires let go during that race? It may have been a clean drive but he did not take care of his tires throughout the race, which is why he did not win that race. That is why Schatz is so good, he knows how to take care of his equipment during the race and has a great crew which he thanks all the time. Sammy doesn't know when to keep his mouth shut.



blazer00
August 27, 2017 at 07:31:47 PM
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How many drivers did tires let go during that race? It may have been a clean drive but he did not take care of his tires throughout the race, which is why he did not win that race. That is why Schatz is so good, he knows how to take care of his equipment during the race and has a great crew which he thanks all the time. Sammy doesn't know when to keep his mouth shut.



If you know anything about that year, the Goodyears were having a problem all season, and suddenly exploding was one of those problems. !f you know anything about that night, they showed the exploded tire (LR) and it was knee deep in rubber. Hardly a case of abuse!



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If you know anything about that year, the Goodyears were having a problem all season, and suddenly exploding was one of those problems. !f you know anything about that night, they showed the exploded tire (LR) and it was knee deep in rubber. Hardly a case of abuse!



This one was the Swindell Knoxville curse. Plain and simple.



TBSprintFan
August 28, 2017 at 04:28:54 PM
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Posted By: blazer00 on August 27 2017 at 07:31:47 PM

If you know anything about that year, the Goodyears were having a problem all season, and suddenly exploding was one of those problems. !f you know anything about that night, they showed the exploded tire (LR) and it was knee deep in rubber. Hardly a case of abuse!



Again, how many other drivers blew tires that night?  Typical Swindell fan, making excuses just like driver.



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If I remember correctly wasn't the tires the storyline of the Kings Royal just a few weeks prior that year?

TBSprintFan
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Posted By: Paintboss on August 28 2017 at 04:34:12 PM
If I remember correctly wasn't the tires the storyline of the Kings Royal just a few weeks prior that year?


Again,  how many other drivers blew tires in that feature? Maybe Goodyear had a bad  tire that year but all the other drivers adapted to it for that race except for 1 driver who was driving the 1 car. Swindle fans sure cannot seem to get past that maybe he wasn't the class of the field that night because others were able to take care of their tires.  Remember the story of the tortise and the hare?



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