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Topic: 360s ran awful good against the Outlaws at Weedsport
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cubicdollars
August 07, 2022 at 06:12:28 PM
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Unlimited run whatcha brung motors would pack the stands more


 

 

 

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runnin30
August 08, 2022 at 08:15:28 AM
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You sir couldn't be more wrong.  I've seen 305's beat 360's and 360's beat 410's multiple times.  They can't qualify with the bigger motor, but later in the night when it slicks off that extra power doesn't matter.  It's all about keeping the wheels under you and not scrubbing speed.  Just loook at the NRA vs 305 series they do at LImaland and Fremont every year.  The 360's don't dominate that series at all.



longtimefan
August 08, 2022 at 08:46:58 AM
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Acually the winner ran the bottom in 3 & 4 most of the race Sat. I wasn't there for most of hot laps. I only saw the 305's. They were running low 20's and few high 19's. I know these things because I was there rather hearing them through the grapevine.



longtimefan
August 08, 2022 at 09:53:37 AM
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This is in no way a defense or credit to track prep. The winner started 4th, second started 9th, third started 8th, fouth started 12th, fifth stard 5th sixth started 10th.  I am not sure on this but I think hard charger was plus 10 . No Passing? You can disagree with track conditions if you want but you can't spout bs that is not correct. As you say some one here can't handle facts and truth.



longtimefan
August 08, 2022 at 11:34:13 AM
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The fastest car on the track crashed because he was impatient and just drove into fence while trying to imitate someone who he is not. At least not yet. As far as how many passes after lap ten. I wasn't keeping a score card but as usual after being proven full of it you move the goal posts.



Murphy
August 08, 2022 at 11:46:10 AM
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So, the fastest guy crashed because of track conditions but the other cars didn't? What track were the other cars racing on?  You should proofread your posts before hitting post reply. It would save you a lot of backpeddling. 



beezr2002
August 08, 2022 at 12:27:36 PM
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Posted By: longtimefan on August 08 2022 at 08:46:58 AM

Acually the winner ran the bottom in 3 & 4 most of the race Sat. I wasn't there for most of hot laps. I only saw the 305's. They were running low 20's and few high 19's. I know these things because I was there rather hearing them through the grapevine.



strawser don't know what its like to be at a race track, he's got flo so he is in the know. Just cause you were there doesn't mean you know more than strawser, he is the king of commenting on races and tracks he has never been to. Once again, he'll tell us how sorry he is when we already know how sorry he really is.



armyduke
August 08, 2022 at 12:32:32 PM
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Frieght train where the 4th 8th and 9th car go 1 2 3... odd train.



armyduke
August 08, 2022 at 01:16:53 PM
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Posted By: cubicdollars on August 02 2022 at 08:17:16 PM

Could happen every night if unhooked them with smaller tires and a wing angle rule, but would save too much money, make for too much passing and take the dirty air away.



Back to Weedsport and unhooking cars/tracks. Yes, they held their own nicely.  Seen many times 360s perform well in a 410 field and 305s versus 360s.  When the track gets less locked down, the racing gets better.  Weedsport was technical and relied very little on horsepower.  Unlocking the cars and tracks put in the driver's and setup hands for sure more than the biggest checkbook for a motor. 



longtimefan
August 08, 2022 at 01:34:29 PM
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Posted By: armyduke on August 08 2022 at 12:32:32 PM

Frieght train where the 4th 8th and 9th car go 1 2 3... odd train.



I saw on the news a while back where they tried that with a freight train, it didn't work out very well.



Murphy
August 08, 2022 at 02:49:59 PM
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Sounds like driver error to me. Is the guy a rookie, in his first year? The other drivers weren't trying to go fast where they knew they couldn't. Maybe in time, that rookie will learn. 



BOSS Sprint Car Series
August 09, 2022 at 08:05:52 PM
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This message was edited on August 09, 2022 at 08:16:43 PM by BOSS Sprint Car Series

We're already doing this in North Texas.

The 'Bandits Outlaw Sprint Series' features an 'open comp' engine rule, limits the top wing to 20 degrees, and requires a 92 (approximate circumference) tire casing on the LR, forcing race teams to compromise on stagger. The rules package frees up the cars, reduces areodynamic drag, and helps create an environment where race teams of all sizes can be competitive.

Parity among the different engine configurations is surprisingly good! In addition, the entertainment value, from a fan facing standpoint, is typically exceptional! Our events look and feel main stream, but put extra emphasis on driver and setup.

Below are actual results (facts, not feelings), by engine denomination from two of our races, for comparison purposes. We see these types of results play out on a regular basis. All three major engine groups already own 2022 feature wins in our series.

If you have an interest in learning more, contact us at www.bosssprintcarseries.com.

 

 

 



Michael_N
August 10, 2022 at 11:25:47 AM
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We're already doing this in North Texas.

The 'Bandits Outlaw Sprint Series' features an 'open comp' engine rule, limits the top wing to 20 degrees, and requires a 92 (approximate circumference) tire casing on the LR, forcing race teams to compromise on stagger. The rules package frees up the cars, reduces areodynamic drag, and helps create an environment where race teams of all sizes can be competitive.

Parity among the different engine configurations is surprisingly good! In addition, the entertainment value, from a fan facing standpoint, is typically exceptional! Our events look and feel main stream, but put extra emphasis on driver and setup.

Below are actual results (facts, not feelings), by engine denomination from two of our races, for comparison purposes. We see these types of results play out on a regular basis. All three major engine groups already own 2022 feature wins in our series.

If you have an interest in learning more, contact us at www.bosssprintcarseries.com.

 

 

 



Thanks Darin. Facts don't matter to some and to each their own. There is lots of money to go racing in PA and expecations out there are for sure different than most other parts of the country where 410s are dying. There are few that recognize this and even fewer who realize the root cause of why the average Joe can't participate and why the quality of the racing continues to go downhill. 



CRA91
August 10, 2022 at 12:15:17 PM
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Let me ask you this,if the track is always a skating rink at Port Royal and you don't like the place then why are you even watching the race on Flo? Oh and by the way I've been WORKING on sprintcars for 43yrs. and raced on plenty of rubber down race tracks back in the day.



Murphy
August 10, 2022 at 12:33:09 PM
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I would be surprised if you actually went to a show.



armyduke
August 10, 2022 at 03:42:48 PM
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Posted By: BOSS Sprint Car Series on August 09 2022 at 08:05:52 PM

We're already doing this in North Texas.

The 'Bandits Outlaw Sprint Series' features an 'open comp' engine rule, limits the top wing to 20 degrees, and requires a 92 (approximate circumference) tire casing on the LR, forcing race teams to compromise on stagger. The rules package frees up the cars, reduces areodynamic drag, and helps create an environment where race teams of all sizes can be competitive.

Parity among the different engine configurations is surprisingly good! In addition, the entertainment value, from a fan facing standpoint, is typically exceptional! Our events look and feel main stream, but put extra emphasis on driver and setup.

Below are actual results (facts, not feelings), by engine denomination from two of our races, for comparison purposes. We see these types of results play out on a regular basis. All three major engine groups already own 2022 feature wins in our series.

If you have an interest in learning more, contact us at www.bosssprintcarseries.com.

 

 

 



Thanks for the facts proving what many are saying about locking down the power is more important than the power itself.  Some prefer drag racing, but us oval dirt race fans appreciate the info/series.



Murphy
August 10, 2022 at 04:24:48 PM
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Posted By: BOSS Sprint Car Series on August 09 2022 at 08:05:52 PM

We're already doing this in North Texas.

The 'Bandits Outlaw Sprint Series' features an 'open comp' engine rule, limits the top wing to 20 degrees, and requires a 92 (approximate circumference) tire casing on the LR, forcing race teams to compromise on stagger. The rules package frees up the cars, reduces areodynamic drag, and helps create an environment where race teams of all sizes can be competitive.

Parity among the different engine configurations is surprisingly good! In addition, the entertainment value, from a fan facing standpoint, is typically exceptional! Our events look and feel main stream, but put extra emphasis on driver and setup.

Below are actual results (facts, not feelings), by engine denomination from two of our races, for comparison purposes. We see these types of results play out on a regular basis. All three major engine groups already own 2022 feature wins in our series.

If you have an interest in learning more, contact us at www.bosssprintcarseries.com.

 

 

 



I'm not trying to be obtuse. Can you explain what this chart means?



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