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Posted By: jz77 on May 30 2022 at 08:31:23 AM
It really gets old watching the same 2 or 3 drivers undeservingly win at port royal. Their cars aren't great, they just have no regard for themselves or equipment. It doesn't take a good car or driver to run on the wall, just balls and luck. That is not racing. When they have to run down off the wall they are average at best. Look at saturday night, macri couldn't run the wall in his heat, couldn't advance and threw a ballbaby fit. They need to grade turns 1 and 2 down off of the wall so you need a good setup to run on the cushion, through the middle or around the bottom (like every other racetrack), not the wall. Me personally, I'm about to quit patronizing this speedway and I think that is why they aren't getting the car counts and travelers like they were. Many drivers and crews know they aren't going to come in here and have a shot unless you have a big set of balls, and run on the ragged edge. I guess if you want to cater to a few drivers, then you prepare a speedway that only suits their driving style. I'm just about done. Everytime I go, I hope they have enough moisture in the track to keep the cushion a car width off the wall. Everytime I am very disappointed.
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They didn't wreck anybody, they didn't cheat
The idea is to get to the finish line first.... they won "far & squar"
Gettin kinda picky????
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The Port Royal post office was in Old Port. In 1847 they moved it to Perrysville because of the canal and railroad. The name Perrysville was already in use so they changed the name to Port royal. It wasn't until 1874 though that the borough appropriated the name of Port Royal.
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Posted By: tenter on May 31 2022 at 12:18:43 AM
The Port Royal post office was in Old Port. In 1847 they moved it to Perrysville because of the canal and railroad. The name Perrysville was already in use so they changed the name to Port royal. It wasn't until 1874 though that the borough appropriated the name of Port Royal.
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Thses facts came from the book "Perrysville to Port Royal 1812-2012 A 200 Year Journey".
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Posted By: jz77 on May 30 2022 at 07:15:56 PM
The problem is in turn 2 that the dirt doesnt meet the fence like every other track it actually goes up on the fence creating at least in my opinion an unfair advantage for a car the otherwise would be out to lunch. That is why it looks like the cars hit the fence but are able to keep going. It is true that it is fair game but it doesn't take a good handling car to run there. You dont see that advantage in turns 3 and 4 because you cant run actually up on the fence. You have to keep from hitting it. Balls to run the inside? That is a lame argument.
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You are the first person I've ever seen who would rather see a huggy-pole parade around the bottom or a slip and slide in the middle race.
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Posted By: larsonfan on May 31 2022 at 12:57:42 PM
You are the first person I've ever seen who would rather see a huggy-pole parade around the bottom or a slip and slide in the middle race.
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Posted By: jz77 on May 30 2022 at 07:15:56 PM
The problem is in turn 2 that the dirt doesnt meet the fence like every other track it actually goes up on the fence creating at least in my opinion an unfair advantage for a car the otherwise would be out to lunch. That is why it looks like the cars hit the fence but are able to keep going. It is true that it is fair game but it doesn't take a good handling car to run there. You dont see that advantage in turns 3 and 4 because you cant run actually up on the fence. You have to keep from hitting it. Balls to run the inside? That is a lame argument.
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I'm going to guess that your favorite driver doesn't run up by the wall, therefore those that do are getting some kind of unfair advantage?
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I never said anyone cheated. The best car and driver should win, not the one with the biggest set. I don't like single file racing and I don't like watching cars run on the guide rail. It is supposed to be a guard rail like at every other track (not a guide rail like a train track). Take a walk up there and look at it when you get a chance and you will understand a lot more. I like multiple grooves, just not that one that has been created in the last 3 or 4 years. Port was never like that before and I have been going for 40 years.
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Posted By: jz77 on May 31 2022 at 04:45:56 PM
I never said anyone cheated. The best car and driver should win, not the one with the biggest set. I don't like single file racing and I don't like watching cars run on the guide rail. It is supposed to be a guard rail like at every other track (not a guide rail like a train track). Take a walk up there and look at it when you get a chance and you will understand a lot more. I like multiple grooves, just not that one that has been created in the last 3 or 4 years. Port was never like that before and I have been going for 40 years.
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The best car/driver did win both nights. All due respect to Lance and the 69 team, if you don't think the Macri 39 is not the best car/driver/team in Central PA, and absolutely one of the best in the country...c'mon. OK, just for stinks and giggles, take all those that ran the top away the Saturday and Sunday, who deserved to win then? Bet you won't say because then you'll have to reveal your bias.
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Posted By: jz77 on May 31 2022 at 04:45:56 PM
I never said anyone cheated. The best car and driver should win, not the one with the biggest set. I don't like single file racing and I don't like watching cars run on the guide rail. It is supposed to be a guard rail like at every other track (not a guide rail like a train track). Take a walk up there and look at it when you get a chance and you will understand a lot more. I like multiple grooves, just not that one that has been created in the last 3 or 4 years. Port was never like that before and I have been going for 40 years.
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To be fair, I didn't say that you did.
What you are saying, is that no one should be able to use that part of the track that you don't think they should. That's the part I, and apperently others find fault with.Every racer should be able to use whatever line he feels makes him go fastest. That's racing. Some people don't like sprinters to hug the bottom. Some people don't like sprinters to ride the rim. Most all sprint car fans like races that have passing and are exciting.
I'm probably off a bit, but I think it was Jack Hewitt that said racing the bottom was like having a day job.
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Posted By: larsonfan on May 31 2022 at 05:43:21 PM
The best car/driver did win both nights. All due respect to Lance and the 69 team, if you don't think the Macri 39 is not the best car/driver/team in Central PA, and absolutely one of the best in the country...c'mon. OK, just for stinks and giggles, take all those that ran the top away the Saturday and Sunday, who deserved to win then? Bet you won't say because then you'll have to reveal your bias.
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You are right the car/driver who could run anywhere on the track won. That is what makes that team good is when he comes up on a car he will run where ever the other guy doesn't. The crew cheif deserves some credit for that. Lance said as much in his interveiw.
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Posted By: revjimk on May 29 2022 at 08:52:43 PM
You're right.
Hard to ignore him...
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Only problem I have is it's bad enough reading Strawsers crap rants on here all the time, now on Flo we have to endure a Strawser doing driver interviews. Will in never end?
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Posted By: jz77 on May 31 2022 at 04:45:56 PM
I never said anyone cheated. The best car and driver should win, not the one with the biggest set. I don't like single file racing and I don't like watching cars run on the guide rail. It is supposed to be a guard rail like at every other track (not a guide rail like a train track). Take a walk up there and look at it when you get a chance and you will understand a lot more. I like multiple grooves, just not that one that has been created in the last 3 or 4 years. Port was never like that before and I have been going for 40 years.
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Everybody likes multiple grooves...
"The best car and driver should win, not the one with the biggest set"???
The best driver has the best combination of balls, brains, & knowhow
All balls, no brains, you wreck
All brains, no balls, YOU DON'T DRIVE A SPRINT CAR! ;)
The best drivers won, on those nites, on that track... its always different
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Posted By: jz77 on May 30 2022 at 08:31:23 AM
It really gets old watching the same 2 or 3 drivers undeservingly win at port royal. Their cars aren't great, they just have no regard for themselves or equipment. It doesn't take a good car or driver to run on the wall, just balls and luck. That is not racing. When they have to run down off the wall they are average at best. Look at saturday night, macri couldn't run the wall in his heat, couldn't advance and threw a ballbaby fit. They need to grade turns 1 and 2 down off of the wall so you need a good setup to run on the cushion, through the middle or around the bottom (like every other racetrack), not the wall. Me personally, I'm about to quit patronizing this speedway and I think that is why they aren't getting the car counts and travelers like they were. Many drivers and crews know they aren't going to come in here and have a shot unless you have a big set of balls, and run on the ragged edge. I guess if you want to cater to a few drivers, then you prepare a speedway that only suits their driving style. I'm just about done. Everytime I go, I hope they have enough moisture in the track to keep the cushion a car width off the wall. Everytime I am very disappointed.
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Doesn't Hoseheads sponsor the Central Pa. point fund? And yet this page will allow a person or group of persons to denegrate one particular track and act like little Amber Heard.
Freedom of speech doesn’t mean freedom from the consequences of your actions.
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Nothing more 'lame' than your constant BS, Barbie. And the 'truth' is someone ought to be able to sue your arse for it.
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Jz77 is actually correct about the configuration of turns 1 and 2. There is a sharp lip at the top of the track and Port has become very top dominant in the past few years. A lot of drivers have brought it up. Danny Dietrich being one. I think the lip up top combined with wider corners has made the bottom groove far less usable because A) the cars on the outside loading the right rear on that lip carry a ton of momentum and B) the apex of the corners now requires one to scrub entirely too much speed to be able to "roll the bottom" in a traditional sense. We can argue all day whether this is a good thing or a bad thing but jz77 is definitely correct about how the corners are configured and lots of drivers have brought up the fact that Port is extremely top dominant now. Me personally? I prefer the old configuration where Mark Smith and Todd Shaffer could rip the curb but guys like Hodnett and Kreitz could get hooked on the bottom and drive right by lesser cars. There was more side by side racing back then. Now, its mostly slide or die and pinching people against the fence coming off the corners. It's still a great track and I enjoy going there but I definitely liked it better before
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Macri has a good setup for Port royal you have to give him that. If they choose to venture outside of pa let me suggest you better start to get a grasp on some other tracks in the surrounding area. Venture west for a weekend and see how he does, Lernerville Friday and into Ohio for a Saturday show. Wanna run with the big dogs well let's see if you've got the crew and talent to do that. Away from his home base he'd be in over his head for the first year. Happens to all of them that think it's easy.
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Posted By: alum.427 on June 02 2022 at 05:31:10 AM
Macri has a good setup for Port royal you have to give him that. If they choose to venture outside of pa let me suggest you better start to get a grasp on some other tracks in the surrounding area. Venture west for a weekend and see how he does, Lernerville Friday and into Ohio for a Saturday show. Wanna run with the big dogs well let's see if you've got the crew and talent to do that. Away from his home base he'd be in over his head for the first year. Happens to all of them that think it's easy.
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I am not saying he would dominate on the road but he has won at six different tracks already this season and others last year. He ran well in California in another car last fall. Made the Knoxville A main. He might not win as many as here but they will know that he is there. As far as Lernerville on Friday's; who travels three hours one way for a cut in pay? As far as his winning this season, guys get hot and as usual all good things come to an end.
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Maybe a row of orange cones and a sign that says "racers can't race above this line because a fan doesn't approve because it's no fair!" would fix the problem?
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Funny thing is, I was replying to one of your other aliases and you forgot to change screen names before replying. :)
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So now it's unfair to have the balls and skill to run ap against the wall, and being able to use the entire track is not good racing? Well that "guide rail" is there for anyone to use. This topic is getting beyond silly. Every time Port has a fantastic night of racing which is pretty often, we have to listen to a few clowns tell us it wasn't any good. These are the same people who rave about a wet and heavy track with a cushion half way up that provides zero passing or side by side action. FWIW I've been going to Port Royal since I was a kid in the 70's and the racing today is far better than it's ever been. There was never as much passing, side by side or back and forth action as there is now, not even close. Most of the passing of yesteryear was manufactured by points handicapping and the fact that the cars were not nearly as even. As even and locked down as the cars are now, it's astonishing that a 1/2 mile track is able to prepare a track that produces such great racing even in the heat races.
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