Forum: HoseHeads Sprint Car General Forum (go)
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No, you can't handle the truth

I lost my step mother to covid. Thousands more died due to INACTION.
You supported an insurrectionist. When are you going to reap what you sow?

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Actually, you dish out more BS than anyone I see on here.

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He don't like it when people feed his own dish back to him.. He doesn't even go to races anymore, just bitches about what he sees on the tube. He wouldn't know the truth if it came up and smacked him. No need to say sorry to dissapoint you either, I'll just throw you in with the rest of the losers that dissapoint me. Handle that truth strawsac.

So you're telling me demand for sprint car tires has increased?  Because there's a shortage are teams buying more tires?  Sorry it doesn't make sense in this case.  Unless you can tell me how demand has increased (and I'm not talking about a farmer with his hogs or any other situation, I'm strictly talking about spriint car tires).

Just last Thursday I went to a memorial service for a person that died from covid. I don't care much for your idea of the moral of the story.

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Maybe it's not so much that demand increased as it's that the supply decreased and the manufacturer can't keep up. . I know it's a crappy analogy to use, but think about the whole toilet paper fiasco. 

Sorry---I thought you could read at a 3rd grade level.  SUPPLY OF TIRES IS DOWN---THEREFORE, DEMAND FOR THE TIRES LEFT, IS UP---not as many tires, same racers want less tires, more demand for existing tires......................how difficult is that to understand?

I also buy fresh meat and eggs most of the time.  I cannot fathom how anyone's groceries are up 50%--------if mine were up 25%, I'd be freaking out right now.  Thankfully, mine are only up a little more than what they are claiming the national average to be.   We did budget $200 per week towards the fall/winter of 2021, but over the past 2-3 months, it's been about $230.  (we don't buy much meat in that)  

You're exactly right Murphy.  And you said it better than I did.  He's not totally wrong he's just confused.  He's remembering snippets from his economics class in high school or college.  But the market price of an item is set by supply AND demand, they work together.  If you think of it as a graph and one line is supply of an item and the other is demand for the item, where those 2 lines cross would be where the market price would be set (if I'm remembering that correctly).  In this case demand is the same (unless there's something going on with teams buying more tires than normal?) but because supply is down the prices are going up.  In a normal economy typically supply is adjusted based on demand but in today's world that's not possible right now.  So he's not entirely wrong but his class didn't talk about a pandemic and what would happen if there is supply issues.  And he's not going to listen so there's no point in wasting anymore time with him (kind of like the winged/strawser).

I think the toilet paper fiasco was the exact opposite where demand out paced what the supply was.  In this case the supply stayed the same but the demand skyrocketed.

Can we leave this stupid shit off this forum. Do not ruin it b/c of your political opinion or your thoughts on what should of happened. 

Keep It Real

I haven't commented on this page in YEARS and it was Strawser's "Reap what you sow" comment that drew my ire.

People REALLY did die from covid. And 'ruin' the Hoseheads message board, that's a laugher.

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I seen this and I thought there might be a possibility for some explanation on the tire storage. Somebody possibly coming up with something about the Chinese Sprint car they run in Australia. Possibly making their way over to the United States and could be used to help with a tire shortage. And in books if Hoosier can't Supply tires they're breaking their contract with race tracks and anyone else they have contracts with. And that makes the contract null and void which means they should be able to run any Tire they choose to run. But then we got off on this rant about grocery stores and covid-19. And nothing has been said about the tires. So if the moderator could watch this and if it doesn't get back on the tires just close it and delete it please.

We have no way of knowing how the contracts were written, because it's none of our business. Most big-time contracts have some clauses in them about circumstances beyond their control. Dropping Hoosier isn't really an option.  If Hoosier is having trouble getting raw materials for tires, so is everyone else.

I'm sure you're probably right about the contracts you know more about that than I do. I do know from several people on Facebook down in Australia. That the Chinese Sprint car tires. Are easy to get ahold of plentiful and cause Pennies on the dollar. Compared to Hoosier or American racers and many Sprint car people in Australia are wondering why they're not being sold in America. Now one thing no one is saying is if this is natural rubber or synthetic rubber tire. They are saying that they can afford to run them one night and throw them away because they're so cheap. Sounds like a good solution to Tire shortage we have. I'm kind of surprised some high dollar owner has it checked into importing these tires to the United States. Or maybe they have we'll just have to wait and see

I hear there are some being tested in US now.

All I know is as racers, it is affecting our ability to be able to race in series/tracks we paid memberships for and that's where it does become our business.  I think open tire rule for a few weeks is an option that can keep cars on the tracks and not knowing the specifics of the particular Hoosier contracts with tracks/series, if they can't deliver the product, the contract has been breached by them. 

Unfortunate situation for sure either way, I just don't want to see more races canceled due to it and don't want teams to miss races at tracks/series' they committed to because they are out of the specific tire "required".

To be clear, I'm not defending tire companies or racing sanctions. I'm just saying that my experience with contracts are that any big company has enough weasel clauses written into their contracts to get out of them if they want to. Check whatever contract you signed when you paid membership dues and see if it guarantees anything.

As far as an open tire rule in the interim, I can't see how that would work unless a lot of people have tires squirrled away somewhere. If Hoosier can't get the raw materials, neither can the other race tire companies. 

A China Tire for a sprint car.. That might send old cubic over the edge.