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Topic: KYLE LARSON BACK TO DIRT
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alum.427
December 29, 2017 at 05:56:24 AM
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Well I guess we see the Gordon situation from 2 widely different perspectives. Sprint car racing made his career, you would think he would be there to help a up and comer. Nascrap is not the top run of where many want to get to anymore. Money wise, you betcha, but as for the racing. It stinks anymore. When Kyle Larson made the comment about his apparel sales, that said a lot concerning the fans viewpoint. Nascrap also heard the comment. Many times you hear and see people that think outside the bubble and it brings a new energy to the forefront.  Not nascrap. They are the blind horse running in the Kentucky derby. They refuse to look outside that box. The make changes to there chase and then think we fixed it. Young Mr. France has done nothing to change the downward spiral nascrap is on and it will continue until someone opens the box and looks around. 



blazer00
December 29, 2017 at 09:14:31 AM
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Posted By: revjimk on December 29 2017 at 03:31:15 AM

" I'll be damned if I'd be throwing it down the rat hole that is sprint car racing"

Thats funny

Makes sense, unfortunately

But plenty of people here seem to think the opposite way

 


What's that old saying?............. "it's easy to spend someone elses money"



Nickules
December 29, 2017 at 09:35:14 AM
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Posted By: blazer00 on December 27 2017 at 11:45:50 PM

No......he can do whatever he wants with his money and shouldn't catch any flack for it. He risked his life to earn it! It's pretty well known that he contributes a substantial amount.......and I think helping ill children is one of his concerns.  I remember when autism was high priority with him, in conjunction with Evernham, who I believe had an autistic child.I'd like to see Jeff around the race tracks, but for the first time in his adult life, he's free from the grind of racing commitments, and can focus on his family first and foremost. Good for him!



Purely nitpicking here and absolutely 100% not trying to be an a hole, I promise, nor am I insinuating that you typed "had" vs "has" consciously at all.  Just clarifying that Evernham HAS an Autistic son.  Autism is not a "curable" disorder, thus the individual will always be "autistic."  Again, wow that sounds like I'm being a total a hole, but I'm not.  Just clarifying for those who wonder (Autism is a disorder that requires a lot of education because it is so hard to understand and wrap your head around if you do not have a direct relationship with it). 



fiXXXer
December 29, 2017 at 07:00:00 PM
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Posted By: alum.427 on December 29 2017 at 05:56:24 AM

Well I guess we see the Gordon situation from 2 widely different perspectives. Sprint car racing made his career, you would think he would be there to help a up and comer. Nascrap is not the top run of where many want to get to anymore. Money wise, you betcha, but as for the racing. It stinks anymore. When Kyle Larson made the comment about his apparel sales, that said a lot concerning the fans viewpoint. Nascrap also heard the comment. Many times you hear and see people that think outside the bubble and it brings a new energy to the forefront.  Not nascrap. They are the blind horse running in the Kentucky derby. They refuse to look outside that box. The make changes to there chase and then think we fixed it. Young Mr. France has done nothing to change the downward spiral nascrap is on and it will continue until someone opens the box and looks around. 



We couldn't agree more on NASCAR. I'd rather go to work than watch a NASCAR "race" because at least when I'm at work, I'm getting paid to be there. The way I see it, Gordon may not have contributed in the same way as Tony Stewart, Kahne and Larson have but keep in mind, he really paved the way and made the road much easier for the sprint car guys to get to NASCAR and many of those guys have contributed greatly to the sport. Tony Stewart, Newman, Irwin etc. got a shot at NASCAR because all of the owners were looking for the next Jeff Gordon. And now due to Stewart's success, you have owners who are looking for the next Tony Stewart and Larson is probably that guy. Jeff really started all of that so without him, it's possible that we wouldn't have all the NASCAR money in out sport today. That's how I see it. He did his part.



blazer00
December 29, 2017 at 07:52:44 PM
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Posted By: Nickules on December 29 2017 at 09:35:14 AM

Purely nitpicking here and absolutely 100% not trying to be an a hole, I promise, nor am I insinuating that you typed "had" vs "has" consciously at all.  Just clarifying that Evernham HAS an Autistic son.  Autism is not a "curable" disorder, thus the individual will always be "autistic."  Again, wow that sounds like I'm being a total a hole, but I'm not.  Just clarifying for those who wonder (Autism is a disorder that requires a lot of education because it is so hard to understand and wrap your head around if you do not have a direct relationship with it). 



Of course you are 100% correct. I was thinking more in the terms of the birth of his son, but I can sure see how it would read differently than that. His son would be in his twenties now, I believe.



Nickules
December 29, 2017 at 09:52:52 PM
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Posted By: blazer00 on December 29 2017 at 07:52:44 PM

Of course you are 100% correct. I was thinking more in the terms of the birth of his son, but I can sure see how it would read differently than that. His son would be in his twenties now, I believe.



No worries. I'm probably being sensitive too. One of the largest misconceptions about Autism is that it's a curable disorder (actually most people call it a disease which it is not). Top three misconceptions about Autism (at least that I've experienced) is 1. People automatically think Rainman and that autistic people can count toothpicks if they fall on the ground, 2. Autistic people (especially kids) aren't "bad" kids or purposely acting out. Their brain processes things differently and when kids don't understand and cognitively process something it manifests itself in different behaviors. They are not consciously "being bad." 3. Autism is not a curable disorder. An autistic person will always be uniquely who they are, autism and all. 

One final thing is there's a saying that if you meet one Autistic person you've met one Autistic person. It is a spectrum disorder and every individual on said spectrum is unique even if they share similarities with others on the spectrum.

Okay I'm off my education soapbox now. 



blazer00
December 29, 2017 at 11:05:10 PM
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Posted By: Nickules on December 29 2017 at 09:52:52 PM

No worries. I'm probably being sensitive too. One of the largest misconceptions about Autism is that it's a curable disorder (actually most people call it a disease which it is not). Top three misconceptions about Autism (at least that I've experienced) is 1. People automatically think Rainman and that autistic people can count toothpicks if they fall on the ground, 2. Autistic people (especially kids) aren't "bad" kids or purposely acting out. Their brain processes things differently and when kids don't understand and cognitively process something it manifests itself in different behaviors. They are not consciously "being bad." 3. Autism is not a curable disorder. An autistic person will always be uniquely who they are, autism and all. 

One final thing is there's a saying that if you meet one Autistic person you've met one Autistic person. It is a spectrum disorder and every individual on said spectrum is unique even if they share similarities with others on the spectrum.

Okay I'm off my education soapbox now. 



No worries here either. I do have some familiarity with Autism. My grandson has Aarskog Scott Syndrome. Thats a genetic affliction that is often times thought to be Autism during infancy. Appearance wise it's not always recognizable, and it primarily afflicts boys. It has similar traits to Autism, and like Autism, there is no way to predict just how far mental developement will progress. Some are able to live on their own and care for themselves, while others are not. Bottom line is, he is a very precious boy and we love him to no end. Sometimes he's a card, while other times he can be a bit distant. But, he does continue to develop, although at a much slower speed than normal kids. He does attend regular school, and his classmates totally accept him.



revjimk
December 29, 2017 at 11:11:15 PM
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Posted By: blazer00 on December 29 2017 at 09:14:31 AM

What's that old saying?............. "it's easy to spend someone elses money"



Thats right.... got any? i have some ideas ;)



blazer00
December 30, 2017 at 10:48:04 AM
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Posted By: revjimk on December 29 2017 at 11:11:15 PM

Thats right.... got any? i have some ideas wink



Only if they are really good ideas.........:)



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