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This race is two days after the High Limit Series race at Tri-City Speedway in Granite City, Illinois, only 80 miles away.  Instead of piggybacking on an Outlaw race, they are hooking on to a $ 23,000-to-win race. 

....and people wondered why the WOO has restrictions on their platium members......

If a promoter can have a non sanctioned race and get the same car count as a sanctioned race, why would he ever pay the sanction fee?

100% the reason why and it is warranted.   Some people have zero business sense. 

Granite City on a Wednesday night with High Limit will be loaded.  Obviously no one running for points with All-Stars or WoO can come to Farmington

Guys running for points at Knoxville won't, neither Penn guys who might come out for High Limit at Granite

Maybe a Brian Brown?  Genneten?  There will be a few maybe but not much.   I hope it's a massively successful weekend.  Just wouldn't want fans to have unrealistic expectations of who will be there.

They will have a good car count, but no where near the caliber of cars that will be at Granite for High Limit.  These days unless you are paying an exorborant amount of money you just are going to get the bigger names without sanctioning one of the top national series.  It's the promoters money and risk and they have their reasons, so we have to respec that.

We need more of these types of shows. I also hope it's a successful weekend with some big names joining the show. 

Obviously not a race series business 

Tracks being able to get them without paying the fees means less tracks scheduling them means not enough money to keep the points fund and bonuses which means less outlaws and THATS how it folds, but it's easy to have the Fan take instead of the Series take, the fan take is simple to understand. 

Sorry, but armyduke is correct.  It's a double edge sword.  

Can I buy your car parts without the extended warranty, wait until it breaks and then buy warranty? Same thing. You want the cake and eat it too (top level teams to race without paying sanction fees). 

As a fan I always want to see as many cars and top level as possible.  

I have been an official with a travelling series where if it rained out I didn't get paid (was enough to hopefully cover gas to the track in first place). Got the priveldge to drive back to the track on make up date or spend money on hotel and didn't get re-imbursed - just original pay if we ran. At least the Outlaws provide those teams who commit to them get some compensation or tow money in those situations.  In either case, I accepted the rules to work event, just as teams select what races/series to run or not. 

I think there is a happy medium they (outlaws and teams) are working out. No one will be completely happy - and that will be best solution.

They can run anywhere they want, and however many times they want.  Just not after signing to be a platinum member.  

A lemonade and hot dog stand?

So ironic from the dumbest poster ever.

Am I correct in believing that the All Stars can race any where any time as long as they attend their events on the schedule?

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There are times the All Stars will put a block on their teams participating at an event they feel a track is trying to lure their teams in without paying a sanctioning fee to make it a All Star show. Usually 1-2 times a year.

      Seems like we're coming full circle here. Those of us that were sprint car fans before the WoO arrived know the old routine. Promoter puts on a big money race. At my local track, it was called The Outlaw Open. There would be big talk and lots of radio advertising spouting how many cars might be there, and mention a bunch of big names who might be dropping in. Come race day, there's not the expected 30+!!! cars, there's 18-19 and they stretch the show by running 3 heat races. None of the 'big name drivers' showed up. The promoter has 1001 excuses about why the event didn't live up to the hype.

     Then someone says "if only there was a way to get better car counts and guarante there wouod be name brand drivers there. Heck, I'd be willing to pay a premium for that".

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Correct.  The Hosers board is full of them.  

It seems it needs to be pointed out again----any driver, anywhere in the world, can race any 410 winged sprint car race they want.  They can even race the entire WoO series if they wish.  If they can find a race 365 days per year, they can race it.................with no penalty. 

If you would like access to the Platinum benefits------show up/tow money, points money, etc---------you make yourself exclusive to the WoO.  

This isn't rocket science and I'm not sure why everyone acts like it is.  How is this so difficult to grasp?

It's just the one guy on here pissing about it. It's been pointed out to him but he just says the same stupid shit.

Didn't take long for you to figure that guy out. I would say he is somewhat dilusional, but possibly one of best race track promoters of this day in his own strange way.