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usmtsrocks
September 11, 2011 at 11:28:51 AM
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Pretty good racing last night. Track rubbered up a bit in the Feature, but still some action. Was getting real interesting around the mid-way point when Balog hit traffic, Dobmeier, T-mac, Heskin and Wolfgang were all nose to tail...until Wolfgang was gonna spin out for the 3rd time of the night and spun right into Heskin, Heskin didnt stop yet he gets sent to the back. T-mac then had a flat left rear also. Balog was pretty strong on the restarts in clean air, Dobmeier got close but not enough.

Tatnell won the 360 feature..after swapping slide jobs with Andy Jones for a couple laps early on Tatnell went on to win by half a lap. Nice to see Carson McCarl in a 360. Looked great winning his heat, then scraped the wall in the feature and couldnt get much going.

Races got over around 1130..A little late...but pretty decent racing.




hoosier1
September 11, 2011 at 11:48:33 AM
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11:30 is considered early by IRA standards. If you spin no matter what the yellow comes out and you go to the back (Heskin) did a 360 but the yellow was for him kind of a stupid rule but one they enforce!

 



WIsprinter
September 11, 2011 at 04:42:58 PM
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I don't know why the IRA always get blamed on how late shows go as the IRA have no control over how many support classes the track runs and the track controls the order of events. Last night Cedar Lake they kept the show moving right along. For an all sprint show other than some vintage cars I would gladly stay a little longer then having to watch a bunch of street stocks. Good night of racing I thought. Too bad the track rubbered up in the end which caused some tire issues. Only 3 IRA shows left this season, where did the season go!



Backspacer
September 11, 2011 at 07:44:57 PM
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Racing was pretty good all night long. Didn't expect much from the A-main just due to the fact we could smell rubber burning 5 laps in. As it turned out, the race was pretty good. Thought they could've at least watered the cushion a few times during the program though.

 

Was glad to see Brooke walk away from his wreck. That was a doozy!


"They'll learn." 

racerman123
September 11, 2011 at 08:59:31 PM
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Nice slide job by winters, must be just learning, Tatnell didnt have a chance of not getting wrecked....

MrObvious5
September 11, 2011 at 09:04:22 PM
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This message was edited on September 11, 2011 at 09:05:24 PM by MrObvious5
The IRA is never to blame everyone should know that. The IRA has the dumbest rules around never runs a smooth and timely show. Typically way over priced for the talent that they have.

racerman123
September 11, 2011 at 09:21:24 PM
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I did not know that the IRA would let you run a different car if you wrecked, I thought most assoc, make you run the same car you started with.. Why do the outlaw guys thrash so hard after a wreck??? Just wheel out another car and go race???

WIsprinter
September 11, 2011 at 09:37:43 PM
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Posted By: racerman123 on September 11 2011 at 09:21:24 PM
I did not know that the IRA would let you run a different car if you wrecked, I thought most assoc, make you run the same car you started with.. Why do the outlaw guys thrash so hard after a wreck??? Just wheel out another car and go race???


According to the IRA rules on their website you can change cars prior to the B main but have to go to the tail. If you notice they added another car to the feature when Tatnell transfered through the B and started 23 cars in the A main. I guess you could call it a promoters option since Tatnels wife is part of Richert family.

Most outlaw guys don't wheel out a new car as they don't want to lose their qualifying time and start on the tail.



official wannabe
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September 11, 2011 at 09:43:44 PM
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This message was edited on September 11, 2011 at 09:51:38 PM by official wannabe

Winters?! JUST learning??? He's got that dirty driving thing down to a science. That has to be some sort of a track record for a heat race. He caused the first wreck with the 10v and the 1h and then went on to trash Tatnell. That wreck was all Winters. He took out half the cars in his heat race but he still couldn't win it. Way to go Neitzel for staying out ahead. Just wish Tatnell would have beat security out to Winters hauler. Shame on the IRA for not DQing him.



hoosier1
September 12, 2011 at 02:34:58 AM
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Posted By: official wannabe on September 11 2011 at 09:43:44 PM

Winters?! JUST learning??? He's got that dirty driving thing down to a science. That has to be some sort of a track record for a heat race. He caused the first wreck with the 10v and the 1h and then went on to trash Tatnell. That wreck was all Winters. He took out half the cars in his heat race but he still couldn't win it. Way to go Neitzel for staying out ahead. Just wish Tatnell would have beat security out to Winters hauler. Shame on the IRA for not DQing him.



10v driving over his head like usual he should be kicked out. Winters had nothing to do with that one! Looked like Winters and Tatnell was a racing thing either could have used the brake or steering wheel neither did Tatnell is no angel.

IRA show's usually run late, seldom do they ever get over at a decent time just ask anyone about Friday it apparently turned into a 2 day show!!! Truth hurt's huh!

 



kevekker
September 12, 2011 at 04:58:34 AM
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Has anybody got any footage of the Tatnell / Winters incident????

"T"
September 12, 2011 at 05:46:46 AM
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way to go 17B!!!!



usmtsrocks
September 12, 2011 at 06:39:41 AM
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Posted By: official wannabe on September 11 2011 at 09:43:44 PM

Winters?! JUST learning??? He's got that dirty driving thing down to a science. That has to be some sort of a track record for a heat race. He caused the first wreck with the 10v and the 1h and then went on to trash Tatnell. That wreck was all Winters. He took out half the cars in his heat race but he still couldn't win it. Way to go Neitzel for staying out ahead. Just wish Tatnell would have beat security out to Winters hauler. Shame on the IRA for not DQing him.



I'd say it was Tatnell who caused the first wreck between the 10V and 1H Rosenboom. Tatnell was flying to the bottom in turn one and pretty much shoved everyone outta the way which started the whole melee. The 10v and 1h exchanged words with other when getting hooked up in turn 3 and when they were pulled off on the hook they both shook their fist at Tatnell.

Pretty sure it was just a racing deal with Winters when Tatnell wrecked too. Both cars racing hard and nothing else. Either one could of wrecked and just happened to be Tat.



dugstahlk@aol.com
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September 12, 2011 at 06:41:47 AM
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The IRA part of the show was great but the Support Classes were redicules. A vintage Mod Class they looked like Silver Bullet cars with an old Super Mod Body, the wheel base was way too long. The old time Sprints were modern sprints without a wing, called wingless sprints. Keep the show to IRA 410s and 360s the Track would have lasted and we would have gotten out of there before 11:30. The same thing happened to the WOO show with the Mods the track was worn out by the time the WOO got to the A-Main. Support Classes should not be the Bulk of the Show wearing out the track for the Show you come to see!

Doug Stahlke

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racerman123
September 12, 2011 at 07:08:59 AM
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Yes there are video highlights from cedar lake on this board.. Watch it and tell me its just a racing deal ..All winters. very bad driving should have been black flagged

RaceDoc
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September 12, 2011 at 08:50:58 AM
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Posted By: dugstahlk@aol.com on September 12 2011 at 06:41:47 AM

The IRA part of the show was great but the Support Classes were redicules. A vintage Mod Class they looked like Silver Bullet cars with an old Super Mod Body, the wheel base was way too long. The old time Sprints were modern sprints without a wing, called wingless sprints. Keep the show to IRA 410s and 360s the Track would have lasted and we would have gotten out of there before 11:30. The same thing happened to the WOO show with the Mods the track was worn out by the time the WOO got to the A-Main. Support Classes should not be the Bulk of the Show wearing out the track for the Show you come to see!

Doug Stahlke

www.autodetailco.com



Just remember that the Traditional wingless sprints were the only class to not have a single caution all night. We must have taken up about 10 minutes of the evenings program and we also were the ones out there packing in the mud after they watered the track. I'd say your were lucky we were there or the night would have went longer with push trucks working in the track.



tkat
September 12, 2011 at 11:24:33 AM
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This message was edited on September 12, 2011 at 03:57:25 PM by tkat
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Posted By: dugstahlk@aol.com on September 12 2011 at 06:41:47 AM

The IRA part of the show was great but the Support Classes were redicules. A vintage Mod Class they looked like Silver Bullet cars with an old Super Mod Body, the wheel base was way too long. The old time Sprints were modern sprints without a wing, called wingless sprints. Keep the show to IRA 410s and 360s the Track would have lasted and we would have gotten out of there before 11:30. The same thing happened to the WOO show with the Mods the track was worn out by the time the WOO got to the A-Main. Support Classes should not be the Bulk of the Show wearing out the track for the Show you come to see!

Doug Stahlke

www.autodetailco.com



"The old time Sprints were modern sprints without a wing, called wingless sprints."

You may be confusing the "Traditional" sprint class with the vintage car group that was on hand ... the UMSS Traditional Sprint Car Series is in its debut season, actually running exhibition races, with about 9-10 total cars built to date ... they are NOT intended to be 'old time Sprints', but an economical effort, using current day technology, and a chassis that may or may not be ... the cars you saw running at Cedar Lake, were class regulars from 1999 to a 2007 being the newest, with the addition of a mid 80's non-downtube Gambler car out to try the class for the first time ...

The class runs every Friday night at the newly named St Croix Valley Raceway, in Centuria, WI, and has thrilled the crowds with their side by side open wheel maneuvers on the always well prepared, little bullring quarter mile ... next year there are expectations of adding several more cars, and the MN/WI motorsports scene has been buzzing about the class since its debut ...



73racing
September 12, 2011 at 11:25:46 AM
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Posted By: racerman123 on September 11 2011 at 08:59:31 PM
Nice slide job by winters, must be just learning, Tatnell didnt have a chance of not getting wrecked....


the only difference between the slide job by the 23 and the 59 is the lap before when 59 did the slide job,the 23 let off to avoid wrecking,unlike the 59.how about in the umss feature the 59 pounding the 23 of Hahn into the wall coming out of 4.apparently the 59 thinks everyone should lift for him.



racerman123
September 12, 2011 at 12:12:53 PM
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Posted By: 73racing on September 12 2011 at 11:25:46 AM

the only difference between the slide job by the 23 and the 59 is the lap before when 59 did the slide job,the 23 let off to avoid wrecking,unlike the 59.how about in the umss feature the 59 pounding the 23 of Hahn into the wall coming out of 4.apparently the 59 thinks everyone should lift for him.



mayby you should look at the video, tell me how the 59 car could have lifted when winters slides into his back tire, answer that puzzel. bonehead move by winters....

squeeze
September 12, 2011 at 01:06:31 PM
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Posted By: racerman123 on September 12 2011 at 12:12:53 PM
mayby you should look at the video, tell me how the 59 car could have lifted when winters slides into his back tire, answer that puzzel. bonehead move by winters....


Tatnell could have and should have backed off like Winters did in 3 and 4 the lap before. Tatnell did that to himself.



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