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NWFAN
August 17, 2015 at 07:02:02 PM
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if so does anyone know what year.  is donny the new king?

if we could take the emotonial ties out of the equation here, is donny better???

 

 

 

 


Ascot was the greatest of all time..

West Capital wasn't half bad either..

Life is good...


revjimk
August 17, 2015 at 07:10:18 PM
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I think 46 is more than 22....

http://www.woosprint.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=679&Itemid=109The



Paintboss
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August 17, 2015 at 07:15:17 PM
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Donny is very good but it just goes to show you how awesome the King really was.




NWFAN
August 17, 2015 at 07:23:09 PM
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This message was edited on August 18, 2015 at 10:03:13 AM by NWFAN

from revjimx...


Ascot was the greatest of all time..

West Capital wasn't half bad either..

Life is good...

NWFAN
August 17, 2015 at 07:26:41 PM
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pretty amazing, thanks for the info. 


Ascot was the greatest of all time..

West Capital wasn't half bad either..

Life is good...

DC1
August 17, 2015 at 07:55:25 PM
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Posted By: NWFAN on August 17 2015 at 07:23:09 PM

from revjimx...



NW, do you recall if those numbers are just A main wins or do they include preliminary victories too? If I am not mistaken they did not start counting preliminary night wins as A main wins in the stats until a few years ago.




lpjazz
August 17, 2015 at 07:57:03 PM
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Posted By: NWFAN on August 17 2015 at 07:02:02 PM

if so does anyone know what year.  is donny the new king?

if we could take the emotonial ties out of the equation here, is donny better???

 

 

 

 



Really??  You have over 1500 posts on this message board and you don't know the answer to your question?  Time to spend a little more time learning about the sport and less time posting.



laudarevsonhunt
August 17, 2015 at 08:04:23 PM
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Steve won 2 more than 22 over 22.



doublenuthin
August 17, 2015 at 08:35:18 PM
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What's the deal, you asked the same question a couple of weeks ago. Not happy with the answers then or trying to stir the pot?




egras
August 17, 2015 at 08:42:28 PM
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Posted By: DC1 on August 17 2015 at 07:55:25 PM

NW, do you recall if those numbers are just A main wins or do they include preliminary victories too? If I am not mistaken they did not start counting preliminary night wins as A main wins in the stats until a few years ago.



You are correct. 



comeon38
August 17, 2015 at 11:48:25 PM
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Posted By: doublenuthin on August 17 2015 at 08:35:18 PM

What's the deal, you asked the same question a couple of weeks ago. Not happy with the answers then or trying to stir the pot?



He is a moron who makes the northwest look clueless. He needs to change his message board name



SprintFan16
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August 18, 2015 at 12:10:50 AM
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Such a great debate. The King won a ton in an era where driver skill was the higehst differentiator. Schatz wins a ton in a day where driver skill is reduced but the relative competition is much greater. 

Good luck figuring this one out. There's too many variables to do so accurately.




oswald
August 18, 2015 at 12:50:17 AM
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I believe Wolfgang & Opp both won over 40. Opp was pre WoO and think Wolfgang was too. Back in the days of true outlaws!



veteranracer
August 18, 2015 at 06:04:27 AM
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Posted By: oswald on August 18 2015 at 12:50:17 AM

I believe Wolfgang & Opp both won over 40. Opp was pre WoO and think Wolfgang was too. Back in the days of true outlaws!



Wolfgangs cars were on display in the HoF at Knoxville and the man had some fantastic years . Noticed in the Weikerts Livestock car he won 17 in a row . Very interesting display and impressive stats. Several years were 40 wins...



Bear
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August 18, 2015 at 09:11:36 AM
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This message was edited on August 18, 2015 at 09:51:56 AM by Bear
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Posted By: SprintFan16 on August 18 2015 at 12:10:50 AM

Such a great debate. The King won a ton in an era where driver skill was the higehst differentiator. Schatz wins a ton in a day where driver skill is reduced but the relative competition is much greater. 

Good luck figuring this one out. There's too many variables to do so accurately.



All you need to do is ask yourself one question.... Could Steve at 38 years old driving the #15 have as many wins this year as Donny? 

To keep the comparision likekind, Steve was 38 in1992 and he won 31 "A's" and that didn't include prelminary races.  Steve at the age of 50 had 20 wins in 2005.

I think the answer itself; answers your question.




henry chinaski
August 18, 2015 at 09:17:04 AM
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Posted By: SprintFan16 on August 18 2015 at 12:10:50 AM

Such a great debate. The King won a ton in an era where driver skill was the higehst differentiator. Schatz wins a ton in a day where driver skill is reduced but the relative competition is much greater. 

Good luck figuring this one out. There's too many variables to do so accurately.



You've got that wrong actually. Steve won a ton in an era where few teams had really good equipment and teams were still building some of their own stuff especially motors. So equipment it could be rightfully argued was the differentiator back then. Nowadays you have everyone on top notch similar equipment thereby negating the advantage that equipment alone had held for so many years and puts extra demand on driving ability. I say this without any reservation, it's harder to win and be dominant today than it was back in the 70's, 80's and early 90's. 


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NWFAN
August 18, 2015 at 10:02:22 AM
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Posted By: henry chinaski on August 18 2015 at 09:17:04 AM

You've got that wrong actually. Steve won a ton in an era where few teams had really good equipment and teams were still building some of their own stuff especially motors. So equipment it could be rightfully argued was the differentiator back then. Nowadays you have everyone on top notch similar equipment thereby negating the advantage that equipment alone had held for so many years and puts extra demand on driving ability. I say this without any reservation, it's harder to win and be dominant today than it was back in the 70's, 80's and early 90's. 



#1, that is my point for the post. tnx...


Ascot was the greatest of all time..

West Capital wasn't half bad either..

Life is good...

SprintFan16
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August 18, 2015 at 10:30:49 AM
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Posted By: henry chinaski on August 18 2015 at 09:17:04 AM

You've got that wrong actually. Steve won a ton in an era where few teams had really good equipment and teams were still building some of their own stuff especially motors. So equipment it could be rightfully argued was the differentiator back then. Nowadays you have everyone on top notch similar equipment thereby negating the advantage that equipment alone had held for so many years and puts extra demand on driving ability. I say this without any reservation, it's harder to win and be dominant today than it was back in the 70's, 80's and early 90's. 



I can agree with this - but still think it was a combination of the two (difference in equipment and driver skill). With the cars more "racy" it typically allowed the cream to rise. Harder to get up front nowadays given the parity in equipment. 




SprintFan16
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August 18, 2015 at 10:31:57 AM
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Posted By: Bear on August 18 2015 at 09:11:36 AM

All you need to do is ask yourself one question.... Could Steve at 38 years old driving the #15 have as many wins this year as Donny? 

To keep the comparision likekind, Steve was 38 in1992 and he won 31 "A's" and that didn't include prelminary races.  Steve at the age of 50 had 20 wins in 2005.

I think the answer itself; answers your question.



We'll never know. Even the cars in 2005 weren't nearly as locked down as they are now. Can't just compare ages, everything about the sport was different than it is now. 



Paintboss
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August 18, 2015 at 11:02:46 AM
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Kinser was better,, End of story.





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