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Fans  want  to see   big   races  at  the end of season  , not  before , but  at   closing  night  . This  is one  reason  why  the   World  Finals  are  successful  ,its  the  last  big   race  , not  the concept  , to me  its  boring  with all  the qualifying on  Thursday  night . They  could  make  it better   for   fans , but  there  is no  creativity or original thought  with  the  WRG  , JUST   DOLLAR  SIGNS because  sprint  car  fans  are so loyal  and  crave  more  .

A beautiful, warm day had everything to do with the gerat turnout. If it had been cold or a chance of rain, there would have been half the crowd. Running a big show this late in the season is always gonna be a little risky. Couldn't ask for a better night, track was in nice racy shape, good field, big crowd and a great feature race with a lesser known posse driver pulling off the upset! Perfect night.

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Dude you are out of your mind, please stop with the same lame post about WRG not caring about fans, I got exactly what I paid for last night, a seat to watch a Woo race at Port Royal. WRG owes nothing to me or any other than that. Give it a rest already, your wrong and everyone is sick of reading your repetitive posts about the same thing. You said last night race proves one thing, your so dense you don't realize if they would have had this race on a Saturday night in July they would have had more cars and more fans, being at the end of the season actually hurt the profits made by all involved, so it's not just about the $$$.

Your   wrong  , but you are  entitled   to your  opinion  .I  state  facts  not  just  opinion  , but  I will  spare  you my  honest
opinions  because  I  care  about all  fans and making  it better   for you and everyone  . I  do know what  I am  talking about  when  I make  these  comments  , but  I  will  refrain  from  such honest  knowledgeable  comments  I know  are true . Sorry to bore  you  with trying to help .

Your   right Mr Caulfield , they  had it  all  there  way last night . It  was the  third  best  crowd  of the  Port season  I was told by  officials  last night . They  make people  feel wanted  at  the Port , a  great  management ,doing  a  great job .

Honest and knowledgeable? You don't even make sense!!! And your posts are never gonna help anything, you really believe your posts on here have some influence on the real world or will help make things better for every fan including me? I don't want or need your help, You are straight up delusional, I just hope you were serious when you said you would refrain from posting this crap any more.

Winning drive, you make statements lIke the WRG dosnt care about fans, let's hear ONE example of what you mean by that. If your going to make negative comments at least back it up with some fact or statement to support your negativity.

Now look what you did Winning Drive. You have got our friend Staggy's panties in a wad...pissed in her Cherios and ruined her day. I like your posts. At least you are positive and constructive.....instead of calling everyone who disagrees with her an idiot, etc.

Thanks Larsonfan  , I try  to be  positive  even though I may be  be critical  at  times  I try to  present  what  I feel be  on my mind  and others  to provoke  some thought . I try  to criticize  people   for  having  opinions on this  board .

The World Finals is a tremendous event, and "WRG" took a big risk putting it on at first because of the date, because there's not a ton of local dirt fans in the area.

You say WRG is all about money, what business isn't?

Ok , they never  reply  , or listen  to fans  like yourself . Admission  costs, not  trying to improve  there  show , one example  is Thursday  night  qualifying  at  the World  Finals  , or improving seating  at  Volusia or other  facilities or tr they own , concession  costs  at  some tracks , there  marketing , there  music  selection  between  races , fan  giveaways  could be improved  . These  are  just a  few  things  to improve  the fan  experience  at  there  races  .I hate  to be critical  of WRG BUT  they  continue  not to improve  the fan  experience at there  shows in my opinion , and thats  my opinion  , so you may  disagree  but these  are  simple  things  I've  seen  to show  me they  don't really  care  that  much . But  why   should
they try  to  improve  the  crowds  are  good  at there shows .There is always  room for  improvement even at the best  shows . Don't get  me wrong  I am  not  mad at them , I just  would like  to see  them do more  for fans .Is  that so wrong Stagger ?

Your   right  they took a  chance at  that time  of year , but fans are always  wanting  that big  season ending  event , so they knew  fans  would back it and they did  for  various reasons . One  is  like  I said that  big  race  that  there  home track didn't put on .  They  could  make it  better , but  they  really haven't tried or yes  they  added  modifieds  to the event ?
  Yes , your right  all  businesses  are about money  but  I believe its the way  they  conduct  there business that is not fan friendly , but it  doesn't matter   fans  back there  brand  of racing .

So what do your local tracks do, that make them so much better the the WoO or any other race track across the good old USA??

Sorry, your right winning drive, WRG does nothing for the fans, they don't care about the quality of the show or giving fans what they pay for. I also agree with the 45 threads you started about local PA tracks (except Port) not caring about fans, and only being in it for the money. And now that Larsonfan agrees with your post I know your right. winning drive, thank you for all you do for me, the fan.

You hate to be critical....and then every post is critical...lol

What is wrong with the seating at Volusia??? that have metal bleachers across the front stretch on a track with good sight lines...oh yeah there is one wooden bleacher in turn 4 oops.  What do you want them to do at a track that really only has a crowd 10 days a year.

What are they supposed to do about concession stand prices, except for Volusia, Lernerville, and maybe Rolling Wheels (not anymore, was just sold), they don't run the concessions...the track does.  Charlotte is expensive, but they are run by the track too and WRG doesn't own the track. 

You don't like the music...fine, what music would you like, because I am sure I wouldn't like it.  That is something that is entirely opinion and is never objective.  Could they do some more fan stuff in the stands...ok maybe. 

The admission prices are also controlled by the tracks for the most part....they charge what they feel they have too to make money.  Is the sanctioning fee high...probably, is the purse a big payout...yeah.  But the tracks book them and the people show up.  About 75% of the things you criticize WRG for are not things they run, they sanction the race, set the rules, provide some promotional work, can help with ticket sales if the track wants, guarantee a certain purse and the attendance of their member teams.  Other than that, most of what you are talking about is the tracks and not the travelling circus.

And what would you like them to do at WOrld Finals...you criticize the qualifying night without giving a solution.  There are almost 200 cars to qualify.....that requires a long procedure.  If your suggestion is to get rid of time trials, good luck getting the big name teams and drivers to agree to that.

I guess the difference between you and I is I go to the track for racing, You apparently go for the music selection and fan giveaways. Anything can be improved, but you make blanket statements that WRG and tracks in general don't care about fans and that's not true. Sure some things can be improved but at the end of the day, if the racing was good I don't care what song JG plays before a heat race or how much my hot dog costs, I saw a hell of a race and I would have happily paid $40 for a pit pass if they were racing again today. If I notice a change in music next year at the Outlaw shows I'll be sure to give you all the credit.

 At  least  you have  a  sense  of humor , I never  said they didn't  totally  care  , I said  they  didn't  do enough  for fans , and  I never  said  that  Pa  tracks  didn't care  , I said  also  that they  can do more ,as  demonstrated  by  Port Royal in recent years.  I  don't  claim to do  alot  for fans   I only   do  claim more  can be done  .

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And now your straight up lying, You have posted over and over how "local tracks don't care about you, the fan" You have got to be kidding me. Did you forget to take your meds? 

Ok , I guess  I sound critical  but there  are  things  I don't agree  with regarding  WoO  POLICIES , rules , etc. but  that  is  difference  of opinion  . They have  more  say  then you think  especially  when they  run the show  at  some of the races  they  actually promote . The grandstand  at Volusia  use  to be very tight , no  aisle  room ,once  you got in, you were in ? Your right concession prices  are high  in Charlotte , but  I know  things  could be changed . No  , I don't like Johnny  Gibson selection of music  intro's  but your  right  its opinion , but  I think more creativity  could  be  shown by  the cast . As far as  World finals  ,I realize  they have  alot of cars  to qualify , but that  could be changed and  some racing  should be presented  other  then I think the modifieds ? last  I heard , I went there  the first  two years  but I didn't care  for the way they presented  it so I didn't return . No , I would get rid  of time trials ,but  do it  in a  better  way  which could be done .

  I have  in the past made  suggestions  to them to no avail , so I  don't bother  in writing , or e-mailing them because I NEVER get  replies , no  one  has  all  the answers , I don't  proclaim to but  listen and try  a  better  approach  to improve  the programs  . I am  sorry  I just   don't  care  for most  of WoO racing  while  I respect  the drivers  , I don't  respect some of there  mgm ideas or policies . And yes  more  creative  fan things  can be done . I hope  I answered  your questions to me .