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Such a huge point lead. They have no answer for Schatz. 

It's not like they're doing anything wrong, Schatz is just on fire right now.  I would have to think the KKR team is probably in awe or shock a little bit just like most everyone else.  Schatz always seems to get on a hot streak at the end of the year, but this year has been an even bigger streak

Pittman isn't done by any means.  Schatz might not be able to overcome the tt bonus.  What a battle.  Reminds me of Karl and Casey in 93.  Sure makes Cody look bad.

Luna's Ford engine style that won 2 WoO titles and 3 
Kings Royals before a weight rule against the best EVER
in their prime and now DOMINATES super dirt late model
racing is no longer allowed/wanted in a WoO sprint
car.... Was Luna a miracle worker?

The 5 points for timing hasn't helped him keep a 200+ point lead from dwindling, can't emagine it saving him now. Schatz has a great team, and they are on a roll. Its a team effort; Donny didn't have a WOO championship or a Knoxville nationals title until he got with Rick warner. But the two of them together have made a great combination thats hard to beat.

if not before...the Poses Swing will seal the deal...for Schatz!

Lincoln 1845 ft/.35 mile T1=118MPH 
Eldora 2287 ft/.43mile T3=135MPH
Port 2716 ft/.51 mile T3=TBD
Grove 2792 ft/.53 mile T3=135MPH
Selinsgrove 2847 ft/.54 mile T1=136MPH
"I didn't move to PA from El Paso in search of better 
weather." Van May

Pittman better quickly recall his 4 years in Posse Land or he is toast. Schatz is sweeping Natty Open weekend. 

Where is the battle? 

With both drivers having a great year, and both derserving of WoO championship, I am reminded of what a seasoned veteran racer from Texas said once........cubic dollars plays an imporant role in this sport.......good luck, safe racing to all!

I would love to see Daryn win it, but isn't a flawed point system when a guy has 19 A Main wins and doesn't have the points lead?  It appears that qualifying, an activity in place mostly to help the concessionaire, is over-weighted.

"I'd pay $15 to watch a sprint car sit still."

I totally agree. Not a Schatz fan either, but wins should count lots more than TT. Schatz should have the lead already

Add to the fact that Pittman only has 7 wins vs. Donny's 19, I think it should be a blowout by now. (Pittman's 8th win was a non-points race where he started up front due to an invert from first feature on double feature night at Lernerville.)  Schatz has by far outperformed Pittman this year when it comes to the racing part of it.

not to mention that they are tied in Top 5's and Schatz has more Top 10's than Pittman does.

The whole format of a WoO race makes no sense when you can outpoint the guy that WINS the race just because you TT good....and you rewad those that qualify in the teens with front row spots in the heats and heat finishing position determines the sash (which in turn determines the line-up of the feature),  Guys qualifying 3rd - 10th are penalized more than those 1st-2nd quick and 11-16th quick,  Format makes ZERO sense, but some guys have figured it out and start up front in hte heats and feature even when the qualify mid-pack or worse....

REWARD WINNING, and no need tochange the format to reward TT with any more points than they already get.  Invert more than 4 in a heat (advance to dash based on passing a couple cars to qualify (if you invert 8 and take 6, just make the top 10 Timetrialers make it into the top 6 in the heat and then have them in the dash to make up the top 10 spots).  B-main cars should ALWAYS start behind everyone that qualified through their heats (why should a guy that couldn't pass anyone or went backwards get to start 11th if he wins the B-main?) make the heats mean something too.

Change the tire rule so that you have to run the same RR tire the ENTIRE night, not just TT, heat and dash (what is that, 14 laps??).  If they tire can't go at least 45 laps, then get BETTER TIRES from the manufacturer.

Whole system is bizarre & confusing. At Grays Harbor, Schatz finished 5th in his heat (non dash qualifier) yet started on pole of dash....???? Was it due to fastest TT who didn't make dash? Then inversion?

screwy

How about no TT, random draw for heats, then run heats again with full inversion. Best aggregate finish in heats determines A-Main. I know its an unusual idea, but thought I'd bring it up for discussion

There is nothing wrong with time trials.  How you do in time trials has alot to do where you start in heat races, part of dash and in feature.  You got what you got in TT by what you did.  The only thing about TT is that every one does not time when track is at its best, some do and some do not.  We suffered for years with drawing for position.  For 2 years in a row we drew about 40 or more average.  With average of 32 cars you start every heat race almost in rear.  You  would think with luck it would average out.  Then you see point leader draw 1 st or 2 nd row every week.  TT at least puts you in because of what you did.

The stats don't lie. Schatz is the best driver. Driving for the best team, on the planet right now.Since July at the Doty Classic he's been out of the top 3 what , a couple times?

points are based on how you finish. main event points weigh more than TT points. you only get 5 points for fast time.

daryn was finishing far better than donny in the beginning of the year. now donny is winning and those first place points are gaining him ground. so he IS being rewarded for winning.

total top tens and top five comparisons don't tell muich, unless you go back and see when those finishes occured in the year. daryn's top finishes came early in the year and donny's are coming later. donny got himself behind by not having good finishes early. his wins are now making it up. you get more points for winning a main than anything else.

to indy and beyond!!

You mean all those times they bolted a 360 in that ride to get him some confidence back...? :/

His fate was sealed when he proclaimed himself and Outlaw over the summer...

#outlawssuck  (unless your mane is donnie schatz)

Opinions may vary...

Quick time gets you 5 points, poll of the dash before inversion, and no worse than tenth starting spot in the feature even if you don't run the dash. To much for making the quickest lap with no other cars on the track.

Sounds like how the short track nationals are ran!

fast time gaurantees you no better than a fourth place heat start. you also have to make it out of your heat into the main to be able to run the dash, then you are not able to start better than fourth in the dash.

you can be 9th fast start on the front row of your heat, win your heat, and have a shot to start on the front row of the dash.

donny hasn't been gaining points because of fast time. he has been gainning points for winning.

to indy and beyond!!