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July 19, 2007 at
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Same ol', same ol'. Take It Easy.....
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July 19, 2007 at
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Posted By: MSPN on July 19 2007 at 10:11:47 PM
Same ol', same ol'. Take It Easy.....
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Smokin' hot.
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July 19, 2007 at
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Posted By: supaschatz on July 19 2007 at 10:21:56 PM
Smokin' hot.
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Hooked up, real good!
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July 19, 2007 at
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Donny Kinser wins again
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July 20, 2007 at
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I fear that next month he will be known as "Donny Knoxville"...is he that unstoppable right now?? Jeez!!
Former Owner/President of FAST and Black Swamp Media
Group. Currently just another fan in the stands.
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July 20, 2007 at
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It won't be long and everyone will be putting up signs that read "Anybody but Schatz!" just like they used to do for Steve Kinser.
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July 20, 2007 at
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I wasn't at Lernerville or night one of the Grove, but that was an absolutely dominating perfomance at Eldora. Had it gone 40 laps straight, he would have lapped all but probably 5 cars.
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July 20, 2007 at
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kinser, dollansky, mccarl and many others retired in the B, mild child in the C, kemenah breaks in C, hillier gets into T3 wall.
Posse cars take top 4 transfers from B - no provisionals = at least 10 outlaws screwed
A main = 11 outlaws - 13 Posse - Lance drops a driveline on the last lap, rolls into the pit and does not stop on the track...ala schatz. posse crew chief - schatz QT - last time thru here, schartz TT 30th. schatz and lance were passing cars thru the middle and moving forward. lasoski blew a motor in the dash, came back for a strong 2nd at the end.
crowd pleasing moment - Montieth laying it to Schatz in the dash...3 laps of slidejobs with Montieth prevailing after a drag race down the back stretch.
under pressure = many outlaws lost a lot of points last night - tonight will be desperation time
radar speeds - turn 3 - 134 mph in hotlaps (jacobs, rahmer, haudenchild) TT = 122-128 for the top timing cars
WTF: inconsistent rulings on starts / jumping (ala Kings Royal)
Lincoln 1845 ft/.35 mile T1=118MPH
Eldora 2287 ft/.43mile T3=135MPH
Port 2716 ft/.51 mile T3=TBD
Grove 2792 ft/.53 mile T3=135MPH
Selinsgrove 2847 ft/.54 mile T1=136MPH
"I didn't move to PA from El Paso in search of better
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July 20, 2007 at
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The Posse got spanked again, that's all you need to know. Desperation is crowing about the B-Main, lmao, priceless. Kenny Jacobs and Stevie Smith are hardly known as Posse without turning the clock back about 20 years and to go a step further there was one local PA racer in the top 10, Mr. Monteith. Shep Dog and Greg are outsiders who came back there for the easy money and are also more known as ex-outlaws than weakly racers. Let it go BRR and take your beating like a gentleman, lol. It's all good, Take It Easy....
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July 20, 2007 at
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you are one bitter ass ole goat...where did i say that Schatz did not drive a good race?
stevie smith raced here all year...but lost me as a fan last night - his hat is at the bottom of the bleachers and he and the purple charity will never get a dime from me...hes become the new layton.
Lincoln 1845 ft/.35 mile T1=118MPH
Eldora 2287 ft/.43mile T3=135MPH
Port 2716 ft/.51 mile T3=TBD
Grove 2792 ft/.53 mile T3=135MPH
Selinsgrove 2847 ft/.54 mile T1=136MPH
"I didn't move to PA from El Paso in search of better
weather." Van May
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July 20, 2007 at
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LMAO, I am hardly bitter, much closer to ecstatic watching you squirm. Let it go, bow to the big dogs and just have some fun. Turning on Stevie who is the most successful local to ever hit the Outlaw trail doesn't surprise me, there are few classier guys out there either. Put the blame game elsewhere for the weekend and just take your medicine, leave the arsenic alone. Take It Easy....
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July 20, 2007 at
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Just out of curiosity, what did Stevie do last night? I've never seen him do anything dirty but you guys see him a lot more than we do in Ohio.
Also, I find it difficult to understand how anyone could claim Kenny as being anything other than an allstar. Sure, he's been in this ride or that ride through the years but his ties to the allstars and Ohio are undeniable. Just my opinion I guess and I realise that opinions are frowned upon around here as of late.
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July 20, 2007 at
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Donny "The Dominator" is yellow hot. WTG!
"Just the facts ma'am", Sgt. Joe Friday, Detective,
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July 20, 2007 at
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Posted By: BigRightRear on July 20 2007 at 07:58:32 AM
kinser, dollansky, mccarl and many others retired in the B, mild child in the C, kemenah breaks in C, hillier gets into T3 wall.
Posse cars take top 4 transfers from B - no provisionals = at least 10 outlaws screwed
A main = 11 outlaws - 13 Posse - Lance drops a driveline on the last lap, rolls into the pit and does not stop on the track...ala schatz. posse crew chief - schatz QT - last time thru here, schartz TT 30th. schatz and lance were passing cars thru the middle and moving forward. lasoski blew a motor in the dash, came back for a strong 2nd at the end.
crowd pleasing moment - Montieth laying it to Schatz in the dash...3 laps of slidejobs with Montieth prevailing after a drag race down the back stretch.
under pressure = many outlaws lost a lot of points last night - tonight will be desperation time
radar speeds - turn 3 - 134 mph in hotlaps (jacobs, rahmer, haudenchild) TT = 122-128 for the top timing cars
WTF: inconsistent rulings on starts / jumping (ala Kings Royal)
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A few important stats that aren't pointed out.
A Main: Only 3 posse in the top 11. Only one posse in the top 5. Zero in the top 3.
This was the first night where the posse should have had their best advantage.
The posse asswhippers are in town.
"Just the facts ma'am", Sgt. Joe Friday, Detective,
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July 20, 2007 at
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the 29 car is a house car - built 12 minutes away - Kenny is a great driver and the ride has been FAST all year - broke a few times while smoking the field. Ohio can claim the driver, but its pretty clear that the car only goes to Ohio when it leaves PA.
we have been watching the 19 race all year...but if you want to go with the visions presented from Cisco and Ebert...have at it.
even when the 19 car is faster than the car in front, we have seen desperation slidejobs pushing the other car to the wall and split second chops going into the turns. Lincoln, Hagerstown and the Grove are the tracks where i saw it involved the black 71 car as the guy who got the royal treatment.
not sure why the 19 car races the 71 car more aggressively than the others on the track...just a witness to a few recent situations. only one favor returned that i saw...@ Lincoln a few weeks back where the 71 drove up over the back of the 19 in turn 3...after several laps of chops etc.
posse fans enjoy the rivalries that develop on the track...especially the close calls...when a pattern develops - between 2 cars, we notice it. im not saying the 19 is personally a bad guy, quiet the opposite....but i am not pulling for him anymore...even if he is racing lasoski or schatz,
attend a race instead of the movies and maybe you will learn something...now get that guy a Coor's Lite.
Lincoln 1845 ft/.35 mile T1=118MPH
Eldora 2287 ft/.43mile T3=135MPH
Port 2716 ft/.51 mile T3=TBD
Grove 2792 ft/.53 mile T3=135MPH
Selinsgrove 2847 ft/.54 mile T1=136MPH
"I didn't move to PA from El Paso in search of better
weather." Van May
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July 20, 2007 at
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This is not a Posse - WoO - Ohio - Cali - All Star thing its a - asswhipping everyone thing. The guy is on another level right now - dare I say he is looking very Kinseresqe at this point.
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July 20, 2007 at
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This message was edited on
July 20, 2007 at
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Posted By: buzzkill on July 20 2007 at 10:28:16 AM
This is not a Posse - WoO - Ohio - Cali - All Star thing its a - asswhipping everyone thing. The guy is on another level right now - dare I say he is looking very Kinseresqe at this point.
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"Kinseresqe", hummm
I like the sound of that But I like King Donny better! I think he'd say, "I'm doing it my way "

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July 20, 2007 at
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Schatz is the man at the Grove right now, he gets his car to stick through the middle of the corner that nobdy else can do. No excuses on this one, but I want to know why only PA drivers are getting penalized on the starts. Leppo gets screwed when he clearly did not jump on the start and then his own brother -in-law puts him in the wall for the last transfer. Heck, the Outlaws even penalized Todd Shaffer because he was going too fast in time trials. Bogus! Go Brian!
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July 20, 2007 at
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July 20, 2007 at
12:13:16 PM by Bear
Riddle me this...where in the country can you go and put 9 touring Outlaws including Kinser,Dollansky, Solwold, McCarl, Haud, Hannagan to name a few, on top of the trailers to watch the A-Main?
I'm not sure how the Posse as a group got whipped? You can say the went backwards in the A all you want,but they made the A and some of the high profile outlaws were on the trailer. If Lance hadn't broken you would have had 2 Posse(car or driver) in the top 5 and 3 in the top 7 and 4 in the top 11. Not a bad night for a bunch of "weakly" racers.
Where in the country do 4 former touring outlaws race on a weekly or regular basis?
I find this whole MSPN vs Posse thing a farce. Its apparent that for as many races as he has said he has been to, he of all god living people would know that PA is the best for local 410sprint car racing. The more he bashes them less it appears that his "knowledge" is credible.
I've been to PA many times and I'm always amazed at how tough it is for the Outlaws to make the show. Nowhere else in the country does this happen.
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July 20, 2007 at
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What races? Almost eight straight days without a computer! The fucking thing fried! Or at least that's what my Dell service staff help told me! Thank God for a "full coverage" contract or I'd be robbing ATM's for the next ten years! Even had to have an "Anglo" over to the house to replace the "destroyed" parts! Hundreds of hours on the "tele" to get this mess straightened out! The result? Now I can say FOAW in Pakastani! Allah akbah to all! Say, did I miss anything important? Like Steve Kinser DNQ for a WoO race! E-Mods.
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