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Been watching Sammy for 30 years. Same guy with the same damn attitude. I was at the track Friday night and there were maybe 3 guys that didn't lift during qualifying. Sammy was one of them. He is fun to watch qualify. I am glad I am not trying to fund a car that is going into the same corner as Sammy though. Here is my question .... Why in hell after running over Paul was Sammy given his spot back? As Cappy said once, "If the guy is as good as everyone think, he will come from the back".

Tom D

the scoring reverts back to the last completed lap on a yellow. if you don't stop on a yellow, even if you caused it or are involved in it, you get your spot back as of the last completed lap.

i am pretty sure sammy got his spot back after the contact with cody as well.

to indy and beyond!!

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I don't think the leader starts solo in the sprints .I think it is a late model thing

That was my point. Sammy's 1st move was bone head. Send him to the back. The second move was him going to the outside, if that meant using 8 tires instead of 4 so be it. Again he has excellent car control. If I was a driver, the chance of taking myself out is to great to try. Unless I knew karate taking him in the pits would be a bad choice too. Very few have his super type A and I don't give a poop attitude. Last one I remember was Rich Vogler. Rich was great, but I wouldn't have asked him for an autograph either.

The leader DOES NOT start solo out front--restarts are double file. Leader gets to choose inside or outside line--everyone else lines up according to the leader's choice. (Leader chooses outside, then cars in the odd numbered running positions make up the outside row. Leader chooses inside, then cars in the odd numbered running positions make up the inside row.)

I didn't know that if you cause a yellow in the WoO and spin out, you get your spot back. Just seems contrary to all other tracks I've attended racing shows. AND to blame Paul McMahan for not "stopping" (Swindell's words, not mine), that really shows who this guy is and who he has been for decades. It's always someone elses falut with Swindell. As McMahan said sarcastically, you can't race with that guy. To blame Paul McMahan, that my friends is stupidity. And then to blame Cody Darrah on top of that and of course the announcers, like any good Nascar announcer or NFL announcer or NBA announcer, they don't criticize a top player or driver, they want to be able to continue to talk to them and not have them mad at them. suck ups announcers can't tell the truth. Always find a way to not criticize big names.

Lawlessness + liberalism = HELL -  NYC, Detroit, Chicago, 
Seattle, LA  Who the H runs those cities. 

Hey Slammer, did you hit your dog when you got home?

You hit everything else.

The double file restarts do make it more exciting for the fans. We saw some great examples of that Friday night. Sometimes drivers benefit from it, and sometimes they obviously don't. Not sure how long the Outlaws have been doing this, but I'd bet it's another NASCAR thing. If NASCAR gives it up, then everyone else who's copying it will drop it too. Won't happen any time soon though.

As for the Darrah incident, I think it was strictly an accident. Sammy could have wound up on his lid just as easily as Darrah did. As far as the McMahan incident, I think he just screwed up. He's too much of a legend in his own mind to admit he made a mistake, so he'll always blame the other driver. McMahan was supposed to stand on the brakes as soon as he saw Sammy's front tires beside him. After all, Sammy was faster and you're supposed to just get out of his way. I'm sure everyone will "learn" as Sammy says.

How many threads are the anti-Sammy crybabies gonna start, sheesh! If a slide job comes up a wee bit short (heck, lots is the same) the slidee can do a couple of things, keep going and hope for the best (close your eyes in that case) or he can lift and cut back under and return the favor in the next corner. This happens dozens of time EVERY night in sprint car racing, it's one of the things that separates this racing from most of the boring kind and some of these whiners haven't figured that out. In reality, they just don't like Sammy, so anything to whine and complain about will work in their tiny minds. It is a damn shame it was Paul in this case because he is working so hard with so little right now and accomplishing lots, kudos to him. Sometimes life ain't fair and either is racing, let it go and get 'em next time. Sometimes you are the bug and the other guy is the windshield, move on.....

Been watching the WOO for over 30 years. Sammy doesn't ask any quarter and he doesn't give any either but neither do any of the great ones! Intimidation is a HUGE factor is all forms of racing and all competition. If you watch WOO racing, you'll see that Steve and Sammy are ALWAYS given a little extra room by other competitors, escecially the locals.

You people are acting like this thing is new with Sammy. Been going on forever and ever and will continue until he retires. Just like Steve's "uh, uh" when being interviewed.

Join the list of people who don't like Sammy but all of us who have been around this sport for a long time know that Sammy has been and always will be "Sammy" and does stuff and never takes the blame.

Funny thing is Sammy is still out there being competitive and mixing it up with the younger generation and still one of those who helped make our sport what it is today.

If Al Gore would have invented the internet back in the 80's then posts like these on message boards would have been fun to read because that is when Sammy would tangle with Steve, Shuman, Wolfgang, Hewitt and Ronnie Daniels and we found out how Sammy was. Now it is the same ole same ole and you people are trying to make it such a crime.

As far as announcer's are concerned, they have to be politically correct or they wind up like Jimmy Spencer and go from an announcer to having your own little spot where you can say what you want.

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Sammy has likely lapped most, make that ALL of the favorites of the whiners in this forum, hence a big part of the prblem. Sammy goes hard on each and every lap and races each one like it will be his last, some day it might and trust me, Sammy knows the consequences.

The irony of this whole deal lies in the fact that if most of these clowns with the kleenex got to spend any time at all with Sammy they would do a 180 fairly quickly. What you see is not what you get in Sammy's case as it is with most people who spend time in his position. Being in the spotlight is a place that he loathes, he simply wants to race, WIN and move on, unfortunately it comes with a price that Sammy might not always want to pay, the media (in this case the Message Board wanna be's) and some loss of freedom. On top of that, he suffers fools lightly and he sees plenty of that with drunks and the like in the pits after virtually every race. Some people handle it better than him, heck, most drivers handle it better but you should know that going in. When you've put your life on the line a few hundred times a year for about 40 years straight you can become a bit cynical. With Sammy, it started out as shyness and it's simply grown and as you get a bit older it's pretty easy to be a bit grumpy at your job, lol.

Please don't tell me or him that he 'owes' it to the fans either. By going as hard as he does every night is payback plus and if you can't or don't understand that then I to am wasting my time here. These are NOT Sammy's words either, they are my observations after having spent some time around Sammy and Amy during my years of chasing sprint cars around the country. The Sammy I knew was a much different man than the Sammy you see grimacing on TV (even after a win, lol) explaining how his car was or what happened during the just completed race. He has a very dry, great sense of humor and while he is painfully shy if you get him on the right subject he can talk your ear off. Anyway, I'm rambling and who cares, right? Sammy is just like you and I with a few exceptions which put him in the public eye and most folks need to realise this and remember what John and Paul said, Let It Be.....

Member of this message board since 1997

Ok...now I've got to reply one more time!

I've been called Dumb and that SPEED should even fire me!

Another post said "Doty's analysis of almost everything Swindell did would be best described as "wrong" and generously described as "inaccurate". It was a sub-par job of commentating at the absolute best."

Some how there are a few of you who think I am a big Sammy fan and that I wouldn't blame him for anything! Obviously you missed my call when Sammy "slammed" McMahon and took him out!!! It was a bad slide job and I called it that way!

With the Darrah incident I didn't think it was all Swindell's fault, and as I posted before, even some of Darrah's own crew didn't blame Swindell 100%!

Some people see what they want to see! Heck some have even posted that Darrah re-started outside of Swindell so he had to know he was there. Sammy was actually on the inside of the leader Lynch for the restart!

When Lynch got the good restart a gap opened up and Swindell started to move up to the cushion at the same time Darrah was trying to squeeze around him on the outside.

If you watch the video...with an open mind, you will see Swindell's car hit a rut and his car jump to the right and you can clearly see Swindell's front tires turned to the left trying to stay down.

It has been posted that me saying Swindell hit a rut was an "excuse" for Swindell! Again, watch the video....and no I don't believe at that point that it was Darrah's left front that Sammy hit, when his car jumped to the right, as someone had suggested. Although there is no doubt that Sammy's right rear hit Darrah's left front that caused him to flip, that was a result of Sammy hitting the rut first!

It has also been said that me saying I didn't think Sammy knew Darrah was outside of him was ridicules and just another excuse for Sammy!

I don't know how many of you criticizing me have ever driven a sprint car, if you have then you should know that there is definitely a point where you can not see some one alongside of you until they are further up beside you then what Darrah was when the contact was made!

As for those who said he should have heard him beside him, with the raceceiver earplugs in and it being a re-start and not up to full throttle yet, I question if he could have heard him either.

To say that suck up announcer's can't tell the truth or can't criticize a top player or driver is just wrong. Again, did you miss when I criticized Swindell when he took out McMahon????

Sometimes drivers make what can best be described as a bonehead move and they just plain make mistakes.

As a former driver I know how fast things can happen out on the racetrack and not all contact is some planned out elaborate scheme to eliminate the competition!

Brad Doty

Brad, don't take it Personal! These are just anti-Sammy folks that say the same old stuff every time that Sammy doesn't smile or doesn't take blame for something he did or didn't do. They have been here for a very long time and will continue to bash at every opportunity. Heck, what are your Credentials, the Hall of Fame? How can that compare to somebody who's sat in the top row semi-drunk for the last ten years, you got nerve?

Keep up the great work, you guys in the booth are often better than the show itself, oops, can I say that? All the best, Take It Easy....

you did a great job mr doty. thank you for your hard work.