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I just read this on another board. Is this true?

Hearing that drivers are finding out a few things about the Goodyear tire 'deal'. They can only get get either 4 or 10" stagger when these drivers are used to working with much more than that. Goodyear is also limiting competitors to how many tires they can buy for Speedweeks. I have heard 11 being the maximum. One driver said that he had to recheck his air gauge when inflating his front tires. He said they looked like they had 60psi in them when they crowned like balloon tires.

Let the fun begin!

BULL $HIT I have ran them the past 2 years and thats not even close to the deal.

I have to say that I began running them last year on the LR of the car. The first night I ran with one, I won. I only had one of the tires, so I only ran it on the dry tracks. I had always struggled to hook up on the dry with the Hoosiers, but I was able to hook up with the Goodyear. So I cannot say too much bad about them. In Oklahoma City, most sprint cars run Goodyears on three corners of the car and have for the past couple of years, and I have to say that I will be one of them this year.

I know huh? There have been people who have ran Goodyears for years and most recently on the WoO tour. Goodyear is one of the best tires in the World, whether on your grocery getter or your racecar, they'll get the job done.

The older I get, the faster I used to be.

I can't remember too many issues that caused as much flak as "this Goodyear thing."

Yes, it's true... Goodyear tires will ALSO cause you to lose 2" in height, gain 28 lbs, make your hair fall out, will make you smell bad, will make your jokes unfunny, will make your left ear fall off, will cause you to lose track of time, will make you misspell words, etc.

Goodyear is the antichrist... I read it on a message board... which makes it true.

I bet they're made in China with them darned 'furren chassis that Mach 1 won't repair (saw it on their website). Communists! Dadgummit! This is AMURKA!

Goodyear is the worst thing in the world.

OK, on a serious note (nothing to this point was, btw).. someday someone will make a convincing argument why Goodyear's tire deal this year will ruin racing and why it is bad for the racer (vs. the Hoosier deal last year).

I'm all ears. Still haven't heard anything close to convincing.

Lets see..........

1) You read this on another board.

2)The first word in your second sentence starts with "hearing"

3 You read it on the internet.

BINGO!!! IT MUST BE TRUE! You have successfully completed all 3 phases of deciding the rumor/fact thing on this subject.

Lynton Jeffrey was Goodyears all last year I think at Knoxville. He was competitive, finished 8th in points and won one feature.

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Knoxville Raceway

You guys who say you ran Goodyears last year did NOT, and I repeat, DID NOT use the new mandated Goodyear tires. The new mandated tires are hard to come by and when you do get them, you can only buy a certain amount of them.

With that being said. The racing shows are going on in PA and there were several drivers who bought Goodyear tires from you guys out west. When they get to the first race in PA or down in Florida, they must hand over all the tires they bought from you guys and get new ones. If you guys show up with the "old" Goodyear tires, you won't be allowed to race unless you have the new Mandated 100, 200, 300, 400 series.

The stagger deal that was mentioned above, is correct. Teams can't get the stagger they want unless they cut their wheels and weld different halves on. How many teams wanna spend more money doing all that nonsense(other than the obvious 16 Outlaw teams that can do that)? It has been said that if teams complain enough after they start using these tires, that Goodyear will start manufacturing several different sizes so they can get a correct stagger.

From http://www.skagitspeedway.com/articles/view/288?CAKEPHP=bd104f7fc946da046f91dcc7be336dbe

Skagit Speedway Signs Agreement With Goodyear Racing Tires

Skagit Speedway has entered into a multiyear agreement with Goodyear to supply the racing tires for all three sprint divisions beginning in 2010. "Goodyear presented a solid business package that will benefit the racers and the speedway for the next several years," commented track owner Steve Beitler, "We have had a great relationship with Hoosier Tires for the past eight years, I have no problems with the quality or service from Hoosier Tires. This was a business decision that needed to be made. It is important to me that we take care of our racers and continue to upgrade the facility without raising prices to our competitors or fans. The Goodyear program allows us to move forward with our future plans."


Goodyear is currently in production of tires for the spring races in Florida. We will have tires available in the northwest in March.


Skagit Speedway wishes to send a sincere 'Thank You' to Rick Gearhardt and Neal Cowman at Hoosier Tire for the great support you have given us over the years!


There will be a sprint car owners meeting February 20th at 10:00am at the PUD Building in Mt. Vernon (between Sign Mart & Blade Chevrolet). We will cover the tire program at the meeting.

Brian 

"TURN AROUND; MATE !"

Maybe I did miss something. Because when I want different stagger with lets say a 105 inch tire I changes wheel halves. mmmmhhhh? Sounds like finally thier gonna limit the amount of tires teams can use and limit the amount of stagger, and improve the racing/competition. That doesn't sound too bad does it? One of the most costly things for a traveling team is the cost of tires, we all know that don't we? As long as everyone has to run the same tires and under the same rules, we should see a good show and it should be a level playing feild.

The older I get, the faster I used to be.

I generally bolt a new wheel half on, doesn't take too long, really.

throttlejohnson and sprintcar77, it's not going to be that easy. I have seen it being done. It doesn't matter if you use a 5", 6" or 7" wheel half, you can't get the right stagger.

These tires are hard, the sidewalls are hard and they DON'T grow at all.

As long as it's the same for everyone, who cares? You'll have to adjust other areas of the car to compensate and make it fast and I'm going to predict this will make some great races with PASSING until everyone figures them out.

I guess I'm just a little bit concerned about Goodyear's ability to supply a good quantity of tires all season. IF they are having trouble ramping up for the few Florida races, that concerns me a little. Those sandy tracks tend to grind up a lot of tires in fairly quick order. During the season, Attica & Fremont alone may use 100-150 tires per week. (??) Then there are all of the others.

May not be a problem, but the thought did cross my mind. We'll see how it shakes out.

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are you kidding me!? if you need 15-16 in of stagger and can only get 6-8-10 in there is not a whole lot you can do. everything you do to try to turn the car screws you up some place else. stagger is one of the most important things and the one change you can make that can solve a bunch of problems all at once at times. as far as the rim halves go, are you telling me you want to have to not only dismount a tire, but want to disassemble the wheel clean the silicone off of it, get anothet wheel half, bolt the thing together, re-silicone it and let it dry. am i hearing that right? you want to have to change wheel sizes to adjust stagger? what half are you going to change, the inner or the outer? if you go to a narrower wheel to try to get more stagger, you are going to hook the tire up more, making the car tighter. that defeats the ojective doesn't it? i get screwed up sometimes and mis-understand things. is this one of them times? i am not passing judgement on the goodyears, just wondering out loud. if you have to re-invent the wheel (literaly) just to make the tire work, that sounds like a lot of wasted trouble to me.

so what? its the same for everybody. Ill bet people in the stands cant tell the difference

Everyone has to run the same deal? So we are going to see who can make the changes and corrections to make there car go fast. Really no reason to bitch cuz this is how it is, no changing it now. I would say at first this is going to make the racing better, where everyone is filling there stuff out and seeing what will work for them and what will not. Then the top teams will show why they are a top team and out smart everyone else like they have been doing.

Oh god !, this post is going to hell in a handbasket, cutting wheel halves? are you serious, theres so many configurations out there today from wheel vendors you simply might have to do some shop engineering, but, cutting? Racin Buddy , I like your post only if you left the sarcasum on , heres a idea,? mount the tire on your widest wheel, air it up to 60lbs let it set in the sun for some time guess what, Bingo! better yet, have your trained monkey in the shop (back home) throw a few on the streatcher, when we get to those small tracks were we need more stagger, lets load them up and take them with. Bingo! (not evident of treating) These outlaw teams will have the tires figured out quickley ,they dont purchase two at a time , the locals will have trouble possibly, It will be interesting how the truth gets covered to whomever catches on the quickest , I expect to see some clever ways of hiding tire sizes , but, cutting halfs, (like welding "a half" back together ?,) you got me there? news to me.

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When you don't have mass quantities of the tire produced yet, you can't sell mass quantities. if you ordered tires just a few weeks ago, you were only allowed to buy a certain amount. Remeber the days of purchasing 100's of tires. Yeah, there gone! These tires are NO GROWTH tires. Putting them in the sun won't do anything. The wheel manufacturers are only manufacturing and selling their normal wheels because they have no idea what to do with these tires because nobody has actually raced them yet.